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Memoirs of a Limidonk: You and Your HUD

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You and Your HUD by sthief09

In this short supplemental video, sthief09 goes through all of the stats that he displays on his HUD and talks about the importance of each of them. Great material for both new and experienced players -- if you haven't been using a HUD, this video will probably make you start.

Posted over 2 years ago

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Misc/Other Micro/Small Stakes, 33 min long


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Entity

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This is a supplemental/standalone video in Josh's series and is being provided free for all DeucesCracked members. If you have any questions about the vid let us know, and if there's enough demand I can probably put up a link to the HUD layout.

thanks,
Rob

Posted over 2 years ago

spazn

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great video, and i do want the layout!

Posted over 2 years ago

DonkeySchool

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Sthief, I really enjoyed this video. I think it has a lot of fundamentals that a lot of players don't really understand. They use the HUD, and probably understand what 20/15 means, but past that they aren't too sure. Especially things like what certain numbers on certain fields mean.

This time you have obviously just put some notes down and are expanding on them, it really doesn't sound too lecture-y Smile

I think this is going to be a massively popular series, and I wish you best of luck with the rest of them Grin.

DS

Posted over 2 years ago

FUJItheFISH

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please post a link to the hud Smile

Posted over 2 years ago

nomdeguerre

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Excellent video. The ranges you gave and how to differentiate between TAG vs loose players will be really useful. And yes, making the HUD available would be great.

Posted over 2 years ago

gig

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very nice. curious why you dont use aggression by street numbers to supplement the total aggression?

Posted over 2 years ago

sthief09

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I'll get the HUD available as soon as we figure out how we want to make downloads available. I think for now I'm going to post it on my blog. I'll post in here when I have that up.

To answer the question about why I don't use street-by-street AF's, it's mainly because I just don't think AF is that useful all around, esepcially for TAGs. First and foremost, it requires a large sample, especially for the turn and river, since in NLHE, most hands don't make it past the flop. Once you get a big enough sample size that all 3 numbers are useful, you've got enough hands for more useful and stats like wwsf, c-bet flop/turn, c/f flop% that can tell give you a better idea of how the player plays in certain situation. And that leads to the second problem with them. They can tell you if a player is more the type to play raise-or-fold, but not really if that aggression is straightforward aggression or bluffy aggression.

Posted over 2 years ago

Echelon

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good vid

opinion about by street Agression Frequency? sample size requirements?

Posted over 2 years ago

sthief09

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good vid

opinion about by street Agression Frequency? sample size requirements?




aggression frequency is ok for NL. I tried the overall it on my HUD for awhile since I found it so useful in LHE, but it suffers from similar problems as the factor, specifically that it doesn't provide any context for how, when, and with what type of hand the aggression was applied, only whether he likes to bet and raise vs check and call. and street by street, yeah same problem as with the factor, specifically with sample size. Ultimately I got rid of frequency rather than factor. I guess I couldn't get comfortable enough with it.

I definitely encourage trying new stats on your hud, and making mental notes about how players with different levels play. but for most stats, you're going to need several thousand hands, so mostly only look at those players with enough hands. this is how I've become comfortable using so many stats. It started with VPIP/PFR/AF like everyone else, and I've slowly added more. there are all kinds of bet/raise/fold%'s that some people use with great success.

Posted over 2 years ago

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I'll get the HUD available as soon as we figure out how we want to make downloads available. I think for now I'm going to post it on my blog. I'll post in here when I have that up.

To answer the question about why I don't use street-by-street AF's, it's mainly because I just don't think AF is that useful all around, esepcially for TAGs. First and foremost, it requires a large sample, especially for the turn and river, since in NLHE, most hands don't make it past the flop. Once you get a big enough sample size that all 3 numbers are useful, you've got enough hands for more useful and stats like wwsf, c-bet flop/turn, c/f flop% that can tell give you a better idea of how the player plays in certain situation. And that leads to the second problem with them. They can tell you if a player is more the type to play raise-or-fold, but not really if that aggression is straightforward aggression or bluffy aggression.



Any news on the blog? That layout is awesome.

Posted over 2 years ago

sthief09

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HUD Layout is now up at www.sthief09.com. enjoy, and gl with it

Posted over 2 years ago

Vovochka

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Very nice video. was real helpfull for me

Posted over 2 years ago

Cusem

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Very nice video.

I didn't used the W$SF stat at all.

I tried downloading the layout, but I get an XML error. Main thing I'm interested in is what font you are using for the layout? Like it way better as the standard courier, but tried all kinds of fonts witouth the same results.

Posted over 2 years ago

sthief09

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Very nice video.

I didn't used the W$SF stat at all.

I tried downloading the layout, but I get an XML error. Main thing I'm interested in is what font you are using for the layout? Like it way better as the standard courier, but tried all kinds of fonts witouth the same results.




I should add directions. you have to right click-save as. just clicking it brings up a bunch of text. The font I use is Arial.

Posted over 2 years ago

Soulman

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Bit late responding to this, but I just joined so...Smile

For several of the stats you say that these require "a large sample size". That's pretty obvious for a lot of them, can you be a bit more number-specific? Especially for the WtSD and W$SF stats.

Very nice video btw, after transitioning from SNGs/MTTs to cash I've been a bit lost as to what HUD stats are useful for cash, this helped a lot!

Posted over 2 years ago

sthief09

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Bit late responding to this, but I just joined so...Smile

For several of the stats you say that these require "a large sample size". That's pretty obvious for a lot of them, can you be a bit more number-specific? Especially for the WtSD and W$SF stats.

Very nice video btw, after transitioning from SNGs/MTTs to cash I've been a bit lost as to what HUD stats are useful for cash, this helped a lot!



no problem bumping an old thread. we're always getting more subscribers who haven't seen any of our content, and you're every bit as entitled to ask questions as the people who found us first. we love the comments and questions.

for the thresholds I provided, I'd say 1000 hands for these stats are ok for a rough estimate, and 2000+ hands should be more reliable. unfortunately, I don't know how to run a sim so I can't solve for how many hands I'd estimate you need.

I love the pop-up stats for PAHUD and hold'em manager because it tells you the sample size for each stat, and it's usually pretty apparent how statistically significant the stat is. for instance, if you see someone has check-raised 1/50 flops, that's enough for you to assume a flop check-raise is strong. if he raised 5/50, that's 10%, which is usually a lot, but in this case it's conceivable that he got a couple of extra legitimate check-raising hands over this sample, and his longrun flop c/r% is something like 4%, which is pretty average. so even given a certain sample size, different %'s are more or less likely to be accurate

Posted over 2 years ago

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Very nice video! why u don't use cold call % ? i tinhk is usefull!

congratz

Posted over 2 years ago

Melville

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Very nice video! why u don't use cold call % ?

second this question.
PS: great vid, great series, great site

Posted over 2 years ago

realus

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Very helpful video, I like the Attempt to steal blinds and fold to BB stats. I have ever since started using them in my HUD and they have helped alot.

Posted about 1 year ago

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One Word ---> WOW

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One Word ---> WOW



are these stat for Limit or NL?
Dont really get it Frown

German -> SORRY! Grin

Posted 3 months ago

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are these stat for Limit or NL?
Dont really get it Frown

German -> SORRY! Grin



NLHE though they are probably mostly useful for either game.

Posted 3 months ago

bibisoftie

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hey stief09 i whent to your blog but the hud is not there enemore x i cant download it x can you post it again or can i downloadcit somewhere else ?
tx

Posted 2 months ago

sthief09

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hey stief09 i whent to your blog but the hud is not there enemore x i cant download it x can you post it again or can i downloadcit somewhere else ?
tx




I don't have those files anymore, unfortunately, but the following link has my new HEM HUD and popups in it.

http://www.yousendit.com/download/YWhQZm1TZ2dYSHhFQlE9PQ

Posted 2 months ago

bibisoftie

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hey sthief09 do you have a HUD for turbo sng 45 man ?
grtz bibi x

Posted 28 days ago

PokerFiend102309

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I don't have those files anymore, unfortunately, but the following link has my new HEM HUD and popups in it.

http://www.yousendit.com/download/YWhQZm1TZ2dYSHhFQlE9PQ




Can you redo this link? This one states it has expired.

Posted 11 days ago

sthief09

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Can you redo this link? This one states it has expired.



http://www.yousendit.com/download/aHlSVWR1Z2pEa1ZFQlE9PQ
https://www.yousendit.com/download/aHlSVWRndWN3NUx2Wmc9PQ

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