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Poker Video: MTT/SNG by Ansky (High Stakes)

Thx for all the great vids Dani! You are really doing a great job, grats.

Dani,

Keep it up...your vids are always well articulated and you're always honest with your self-assessment of your play. In particular I like that you limp the 88, talk about how you might sometimes limp a button, talk about your reasons for raising bigger than most MTT regs, and defend T6o in the BB. All this stuff is unconventional, but the thought processes you use are good. MTT regs are wayyyy too tight vs minraises in the big blind IMO, the price they're getting is just too good, and I'm not sure if they are afraid to play postflop or just following the masses who try to develop and define "proper MTT theory"

great vid, watching it made me realise what a donkey I am

needs more minraising

"Well that's it for this episode of whatever tournament series this is gonna be on"

^^Love it.
Couple things I kind of disagreed with in today's games but overall a nice video, some really good points raised. Thanks.

Couple things I kind of disagreed with in today's games but overall a nice video, some really good points raised.

Care to elaborate? Would be interesting for us viewers to hear both sides.

Dany Stern ladies and gentelmen

even though i`d like to see more cash from you, rather than donkaments thx anyways

Good stuff, looking forward to the next part.

Care to elaborate? Would be interesting for us viewers to hear both sides.

Sure, and it's nothing too major really, but I do think there's more room to minraise/make very small opens in spots where Dani seemed to hate it. Think there was one spot where a regular opened minimum with like 25-35bb's and while it may well not be optimal against ansky specifically in the BB, generally speaking there's really not a better raise size IMO when you have those awkward stacks and can save money the times you get re-shoved on/give less incentive to get re-shoved on in the first place [when there's less money in the pot to steal] in addition to some post flop considerations (pot size being the most obvious).
I do think the idea of raising bigger with those deeper stacks of higher buy in/good structured tournaments with reasonably sized ante's is a great point and one that most people brush past and I thought he did a great job of explaining that stuff as it relates to this tourney, but I still think most people don't defend wide enough to small opens so it's going to be OK more often than not.
People should be careful though because a lot of what he's saying in this regard doesn't necessarily apply to your daily $55 Freezeouts the same way. Pretty important to keep in mind considering most tournament grinders will be playing those fields more often than these 1k WCOOPs.

Probably obvious to you all, but have to make it clear here that Dani is far and away a much more advanced poker mind than I am and I'm sure he had great reasons for doing everything he did. If anything the little things that seemed 'off' to me were more a reflection of the way that MTTs have evolved to this point in 2010 moreso than any ideological difference in strategy considerations.

Really interesting Dani
Thanks !

Time Link to 00:10:13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Cg6oXDn-ZQ (at 3:00)

Sure, and it's nothing too major really, but I do think there's more room to minraise/make very small opens in spots where Dani seemed to hate it. Think there was one spot where a regular opened minimum with like 25-35bb's and while it may well not be optimal against ansky specifically in the BB, generally speaking there's really not a better raise size IMO when you have those awkward stacks and can save money the times you get re-shoved on/give less incentive to get re-shoved on in the first place [when there's less money in the pot to steal] in addition to some post flop considerations (pot size being the most obvious).
I do think the idea of raising bigger with those deeper stacks of higher buy in/good structured tournaments with reasonably sized ante's is a great point and one that most people brush past and I thought he did a great job of explaining that stuff as it relates to this tourney, but I still think most people don't defend wide enough to small opens so it's going to be OK more often than not.
People should be careful though because a lot of what he's saying in this regard doesn't necessarily apply to your daily $55 Freezeouts the same way. Pretty important to keep in mind considering most tournament grinders will be playing those fields more often than these 1k WCOOPs.

Probably obvious to you all, but have to make it clear here that Dani is far and away a much more advanced poker mind than I am and I'm sure he had great reasons for doing everything he did. If anything the little things that seemed 'off' to me were more a reflection of the way that MTTs have evolved to this point in 2010 moreso than any ideological difference in strategy considerations.

exactly what i thought watching this, though far more eloquent than i would have been

good vid overall alsways good to see deep stacked high buy in MTTs

Time Link to 00:42:54

yah i was thinking that he is more likely to think he may be able to value bet thin on the river then hero call this river. the only problem is: i just think you have the best hand and going to have a hell of a hard time getting value. Im 50-50 on betting and checking. my first thought was to check to. idk.

Time Link to 00:44:27

i dont really like a 3 bet here, and think a lot more often it is a fold. i just dont expect that villain to be bet folding too much, he already has been throwing his stack around a decent amount. and even if you are ahead and he calls, your opening up a ton of variance when you have no reason to.

i dont really like a 3 bet here, and think a lot more often it is a fold. i just dont expect that villain to be bet folding too much, he already has been throwing his stack around a decent amount. and even if you are ahead and he calls, your opening up a ton of variance when you have no reason to.

Do you mean the AJo hand where I fold to the UTG open? I generally agree, I was just pointing out that AJ can be a reasonable semi bluff hand here, probably slightly better to 3b it than something like 67s.

Time Link to 00:56:57

i agree that gbeck should have bet the river, but i think i was the fact the diamond hit that really made him think that it is so unlikely for you to have almost nothing. I mean the only thing he can force to fold would be weak Ax's. and we are imo check calling a lot, the combo of the river getting even more wet and the fact you probably have something, i dont super hate checking by him. it depends on your history with him, you said you knew him.

SO let me put you in his POV: what do you have asides from a few weak Ax hands that you would be check folding there?

and imo we should be check calling a lot versus reasonable bet sizes on the river.

great vid ansky! hope you ran decent after the vid!

i agree that gbeck should have bet the river, but i think i was the fact the diamond hit that really made him think that it is so unlikely for you to have almost nothing. I mean the only thing he can force to fold would be weak Ax's. and we are imo check calling a lot, the combo of the river getting even more wet and the fact you probably have something, i dont super hate checking by him. it depends on your history with him, you said you knew him.

SO let me put you in his POV: what do you have asides from a few weak Ax hands that you would be check folding there?

and imo we should be check calling a lot versus reasonable bet sizes on the river.

great vid ansky! hope you ran decent after the vid!

Diamond is definitely a good bluff card for him, there are way more ways for him to play a diamond draw like this than there are for me. I can't really have diamonds.

If he is representing full houses/ bluffs, it's a pretty decent spot to get someone to fold stuff like Ax and the straight. I really was probably folding that spot a lot of the time, vs someone I am not sure is capable of making a huge bluff there.

vs someone I am not sure is capable of making a huge bluff there.

fair enough, i guess when you said you knew him i instantly assumed sicko aggro

When is the next one coming up?

But this is exactly what u are doing by raising 2.3bbs.PLS EXPLAIN(5.25min).

But this is exactly what u are doing by raising 2.3bbs.PLS EXPLAIN(5.25min).

what?

what?

you opened the button with k9 suited for 2.3BB then said how in a structure like this and with stacks still somewhat deep that you generally raise pre more.

I think IP we can still go small, even more so with a playable hand like K9 suited tbh. let them call too light we have a decent hand to take a flop with and position.


i think you were referring to earlier opens then the button.

you opened the button with k9 suited for 2.3BB then said how in a structure like this and with stacks still somewhat deep that you generally raise pre more.

I think IP we can still go small, even more so with a playable hand like K9 suited tbh. let them call too light we have a decent hand to take a flop with and position.


i think you were referring to earlier opens then the button.

5000 x 2.3 = 11500...

I opened to 13000. And like you said, I am less opposed to opening very small from the button.

5000 x 2.3 = 11500...

I opened to 13000. And like you said, I am less opposed to opening very small from the button.

fail i trusted his math

Time Link to 00:51:33

oh nahhhhhhhhh LOL that dude actually had the money to buy into a 1k event????