Awesome, can't wait to watch it.
In their season finale, DOGISHEAD and GMan tie it all together, reviewing a $5kNL HU 2-tabling match played by DOGISHEAD.
You asked for it. You got it. The DOG in all his glory along with Gman discuss theory and actual play as they move from 50NL to 5000NL Heads Up.
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Awesome, can't wait to watch it.
Dog is xmas !
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Gman is Santa !
Ohh yes very good christmas present
Happy holidays guys, hope you enjoyed the series.
DOGISHEAD
ENCORE! ENCORE!
Thanks for the great work guys, I will contact you for coaching
Merry Xmas from Budapest
more more more!!!!!!!!! hahaha.. series is awesome
btw I was watching u the other day u played against krantz at 5/10... come onn gogogo 10/20 krantzzz nonono... I hate poker/owW I love poker haha 20/40 loveee mooooooreeeee questions guysssss
and rail goes crazy =DDDD
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DogIsHead/Gman @ 46mins hand on left AsTc in BB , call open - 5h6s8s, 9d turn, 2s river - you lead all three streets and overbet river, can you expand on this - especially in relation to hand in episode 6 where you fold a weak straight twice on a similar scary board IP to Husoool(?)
Great series! Thanks again....
Merry Xmas to all....
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At like the 48 minute mark where you 3 bet q8s and cbet an Ah 10d 5h flop then ck a 10c turn and he bets 1500. Isn't he always ck an ace here so he is only betting trips plus and theres not a ton of 10's hes calling with pre. I guess what I'm asking is this mostly a float and is it worth trying to rebluff him?
dog plz plz plz plz make more videos soon
dog plz plz plz plz make more videos soon
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best series so far on DC thx
best series so far on DC thx
You must be kidding.
Dog, you could have tried to find a guy who was harder to play, especially for 25/50 this seemed like grinding because villain wasn't even playing back.
Playing against someone who 3bets 25% and opens every button and c/r a ton would be nice.
at the 37 min mark on the As6c8c4dks board, could you expand on why it would be 'atrocious' for your opponent to raise your river bet with K8? Your most likely holding appears to be a one pair Ax hand since he would expect you to raise the flop with two pair, a set, or something like 75,and on the river he can't ever expect you to have AK, so the only hand he really loses to is A4 or pocket 44's. Is raising bad because you would fold all one pair hands and so he is not ahead of your raise calling range? Thanks.
This was a good episode. However, not many of us are having problems playing against fairly straightforward and nitty opponents. Like insyder said I think it would be more interesting to see a game against a super aggro opponent who gets very tricky and 3bets a lot.
This is absolutely one of the best series and I'm only in part 3.
Anyway, I'm trying to dabble into cash games but I mostly play Full Ring Single Table SNG. Being ITM @ 40% makes me a profitable player but to be SIGNIFICANTLY profitable I need to win 1st place more often than not. I have a lot of 3rd and 2nd place wins but 1st Place for the most part eludes me.
I understand that these series is geared towards HU NLHE Cash games and with that said what kind of ADJUSTMENT I need to make in my STT 9 Player SNG games in order to implement the lessons on these series.
heads up sng format = maybe 20bb's if youre lucky
cash games = 100bb+
not comparable in any way imol
You must be kidding.
Dog, you could have tried to find a guy who was harder to play, especially for 25/50 this seemed like grinding because villain wasn't even playing back.
Playing against someone who 3bets 25% and opens every button and c/r a ton would be nice.
I agree. I was so siked for this vid, but kinda disappointed with your competition. still a solid video though and imo one of the top three overall series on the site. the theory episodes were second to none.
Awesome series guys, looking forward to more videos from both of you in the future hopefully in a variety of formats
DogIsHead/Gman @ 46mins hand on left AsTc in BB , call open - 5h6s8s, 9d turn, 2s river - you lead all three streets and overbet river, can you expand on this - especially in relation to hand in episode 6 where you fold a weak straight twice on a similar scary board IP to Husoool(?)
Well, it is indeed somewhat similar to the hands against I_Husool, except in this hand a straight isn't really as big a part of the villian's range, and plus we can rep the flush very easily on this board. In the I_Husool hand, a straight was a very big part of our range when we called, and the flush was backdoor which made it harder to represent for him (which would lead us to believe that it would be less likely he'd try to bluff to represent it). The aspect of bluffing that is kept intact is that there are not a lot of hands in my perceived range that lead this flop and need to turn themselves into bluffs by the river - the same as in the hands against I_husool - which makes it difficult to call with 7x.
At like the 48 minute mark where you 3 bet q8s and cbet an Ah 10d 5h flop then ck a 10c turn and he bets 1500. Isn't he always ck an ace here so he is only betting trips plus and theres not a ton of 10's hes calling with pre. I guess what I'm asking is this mostly a float and is it worth trying to rebluff him?
Not really. I follow your logic, and you're absolutely right that he's going to float this flop with KJ, KQ, QJ, 89hh, etc. here. However, if he has one of those hands and wants us to fold air, his turn bet is too big. There's no reason to be betting more than half pottish unless he's explicitly trying to get value out of our check/calling range. Now, that isn't an airtight argument; the more wide-reaching argument would simply be that he's been calling 3-bets tight and has been playing straightforward so we have little reason to believe he'd be floating us very light on an ATx board, we have no equity with Q8 when called, and lastly with a hand like KQ or 89hh it's not that unlikely that he'd check back the turn and (if necessary) bluff the river, since he knows that we're checking some aces on the turn and we know that he's also checking back some aces, so he has an easy time winning the pot on the river when it checks through regardless. That's not to say that he has to always check back with 89hh, but simply that it's an option that takes away from the likelihood that he'll bet the turn with it. And, lastly of course, his line is totally consistent with any suited ten - for calling that flop, that's a reasonably big part of his range.
To expand a bit, this brings up an interesting point that relates to information gathering. This is a spot where, you're absolutely right, his turn value betting range is relatively small. But that is not a justification for bluffing against that range, the only justification for bluffing would be that he's betting TOO MUCH for his betting range to be mostly his value hands - and I reckon quite strongly that over the sum of all hands, you're going to see jcmoussa check this turn way more often than he's going to bet it, and so it's likely that bluffing against his turn betting range is a bad idea when the board runs out like this. Seeing him bet the turn once shouldn't be treated as adequate evidence for assuming that he's going to bet it a lot. Sample size = 1, let's just assume he plays this hand the way that is aligned with our general read on him - that he's playing straightforwardly, and we shouldn't bluff him with queen high no draw on the turn.
You must be kidding.
Dog, you could have tried to find a guy who was harder to play, especially for 25/50 this seemed like grinding because villain wasn't even playing back.
Playing against someone who 3bets 25% and opens every button and c/r a ton would be nice.
Sorry guys.
I was anticipating this sort of a response, but I'm afraid there was nothing I could really do about it. As you can imagine, not a lot of people are willing to play me at 25/50, and even fewer people are willing to let me analyze their play on video on a major poker instruction site. I had a few other videos that I could do, but without permission from the opponent, there's no way I'd be able to broadcast it. This match was kind of old, but Jcmoussa was kind enough to let me air the video publicly, so he deserves some props for that.
But I'm sure if he were here, he'd apologize for his nittiness. ![]()
at the 37 min mark on the As6c8c4dks board, could you expand on why it would be 'atrocious' for your opponent to raise your river bet with K8? Your most likely holding appears to be a one pair Ax hand since he would expect you to raise the flop with two pair, a set, or something like 75,and on the river he can't ever expect you to have AK, so the only hand he really loses to is A4 or pocket 44's. Is raising bad because you would fold all one pair hands and so he is not ahead of your raise calling range? Thanks.
Yeah, when I watched this video back over, I was looking at that hand and was kind of baffled at what I said. I think I probably mentally misread the hand or something to say this.
I'm an idiot. A raise is a perfectly good idea, and I must've been smoking crack to think jcmoussa was thinking about folding rather than raising.
This is absolutely one of the best series and I'm only in part 3.
Anyway, I'm trying to dabble into cash games but I mostly play Full Ring Single Table SNG. Being ITM @ 40% makes me a profitable player but to be SIGNIFICANTLY profitable I need to win 1st place more often than not. I have a lot of 3rd and 2nd place wins but 1st Place for the most part eludes me.
I understand that these series is geared towards HU NLHE Cash games and with that said what kind of ADJUSTMENT I need to make in my STT 9 Player SNG games in order to implement the lessons on these series.
Ah, thanks for the kind comments.
I'm afraid that I don't have the expertise to tell you what sort of adjustments are necessary for playing HU Sng's or STT's. All I really know is that you need to know how to play shortstacked very well, and some basic understanding of ICM. Also, betsizing tends to be much smaller.
Haha, beyond that you'd probably be best off asking somebody else who has more experience in tournaments.
Well it looks like DIH did all of the work for the comments in this episode, so I'll contribute by saying nothing productive whatsoever...Happy Holidays DC. I hope all of you crush the games in 2009 (unless you play HSNL and give me action).
-G
Sorry guys.
I was anticipating this sort of a response, but I'm afraid there was nothing I could really do about it. As you can imagine, not a lot of people are willing to play me at 25/50, and even fewer people are willing to let me analyze their play on video on a major poker instruction site. I had a few other videos that I could do, but without permission from the opponent, there's no way I'd be able to broadcast it. This match was kind of old, but Jcmoussa was kind enough to let me air the video publicly, so he deserves some props for that.
But I'm sure if he were here, he'd apologize for his nittiness.
Just make opponents screenname invisible or rename it and it won't be a problem
I have heard this word so many times in the series and I have no idea what it really means in regards to poker in particular.
Can someone explain to me as if I was a 4 year old, what does "polarize" means ?
I have heard this word so many times in the series and I have no idea what it really means in regards to poker in particular.
Can someone explain to me as if I was a 4 year old, what does "polarize" means ?
Imagine a guy has a hand range, but we wrote it all out in a horizontal line like:
23o...................................................................AA
Actually without trying to I just drew a polarized hand range lol, where only AA or 23o are viable hands, and everything in the middle doesn't occur. Does this sound weird? Well yeah, but when applying hand range analysis to a lot of player types in poker this is very similar to the way they play. Let's look at an actual poker situation to illustrate.
HU NL (and please Gman or DiH correct anything I have wrong, especially as it relates to hu NL strategy), lets say villain raised preflop you called with xy, he c-bets the flop and you call again. Turn makes the board: T
J
Q
2
now if our villain is a sort of nitty guy, perhaps he will check back on the turn (for "pot control") with all his one pair hands, but he knows the board is pretty scary so he might double barrel with a lot of his hopeless hands, putting you on some 1 pair that you will fold to further aggression. This is how a lot of guys think about poker so I don't this example is too contrived, and heck a lot of times they are correct to make those assumptions. Anyway, when this guy bets the turn his range that used to include every hand he raises preflop and c-bets the flop with (if he c-bets 100% we can assume this range is around 75% of all hands[?]) shrinks drastically after his turn action. His turn range is something like {89, 9K, AK, QJ, QT, JT, TT, JJ, QQ, 22, <bluffs>}. This is a polarized hand range - it consists of hands that are VERY strong or VERY weak. If you can correctly put villain on this range you can probably profitably call him with king high (sorta bad example hand since you'd have an open ender but the point is there are A LOT of bluffs and very few value betting hands in that range).
Anyway, "polarized" simply means a guy's range is made of hands on the extremes (poles), so he is either very weak or very strong.
Yeah, DeathDonkey of course is correct.
To reiterate what he said, quite simply, your opponent's range is polarized if his valuerange is only comprised of very strong hands. If somebody is polarized, then the most common adjustments is to bluffcatch a lot with weaker hands. There are two primary reasons as to why you'd bluffcatch more vs somebody who's polarized - the first reason is because usually your opponent will be bluffing too much in most spots where he's polarized (since his VBing range is small, his bluffing range must also be small), although not always. The second reason is that against somebody who's polarized, you can always be assured that your bluffcatchers beat his bluffing range, so you're never worried about being slightly behind a valuebet or a bluff.
Wow.. my head hurts.... tyvm for a great explanation. I think I understood what you are trying to express. Need to read a few more times to sink in and a watch the videos again that explains this kind of situation.
Would this be a case of a villain being "either way ahead or way behind" ?
So in the example by DD above, if I do have a king high and I think he is bluffing I could probably raise his turn bet to take the pot down but if he re-raise I fold or if he calls I just shut down on the river unless I hit the top-end straight and fold to a bet if I hit the lower-end straight in assuming that he could have AK.
Would this be the correct action to take ? What action would you take continuing on the river ?
I'm not well acquainted in this kind of multi-level thinking since I play mostly SNGs. This is one of the reasons I signed up with DC. To learn the profitable way to place cash games.
Danngggg... My head really hurts now... need a couple of Tylenol......
GMAN & DIH, Just wanted to say, "thanks" for the great series. Happy holidays.
Nate
Great Series!!!!!
This has been the sickest series.. I loved the theory videos... to look into the minds of great players and their thought processes is invaluable.
Much respect and thanks for doing this DogisHead and Gman... keep puffing those headies son!!!!!!!!
peace
first time in a year i sat through a whole vid, thank u![]()
cant understand-why K,Q high are non showdown hands at HU?something new to me
great series. I dunno if dogishead is still here but gman can def answer.
at 16:06 into video there was a hand where u had 66 on btn and on a
9c 5s 7c 2s villian leads out for 250. dogishead says "its interesting that he bets out as it doesn't make alot of sense because he cant expect me to fold a slightly better hand here."
my question is surely that line is consistent with all his 7x and 9x type hands. why would he think that u would bet the turn more with worse than check call with worse given ur hand looks like it has SD value and the 2 really doesn't improve anything in his range?
also why is that river card a bad card to barrel if he knows that u know that its a bad card to barrel.
thanks guys
29:37 into video u have 99 on J36 A6 board he c-bet flop then checked behind on turn.
.)is it not a good spot for you to bluff seeing as a 6 and J are def in ur range once u float the flop and u pretty much never betting this river with worse?
2.)given that you don't lead is it not a good spot for him to bet for value or are u checking Ax here and not calling a worse J often enough?
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