PokerPiet
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In this hand you talk about how it can be good to check behind the flop with the ace of spades, assuming villain knows/thinks you will check behind with that hand at least 50% of the time, your riverbet becomes kind of thin to a point where he really must believe you dont 3barrel bluff this board and (as you been saying) your image is not that good.
I also don't really like the betsize you chose since you are kind of repping boats and nutflushes only while he probably correctly thinks the nutflush isnt completely in your range, i think a half pot bet does a better job repping the queen or ten of spades and has almost the same amount of fold equity.
You also been betting half pot on 4 to a flush boards earlier although in totally different spots it prolly wont look suspicious to him.
I might look a bit results orientated here but i honestly thought about this before he called 
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Gman
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In this hand you talk about how it can be good to check behind the flop with the ace of spades, assuming villain knows/thinks you will check behind with that hand at least 50% of the time, your riverbet becomes kind of thin to a point where he really must believe you dont 3barrel bluff this board and (as you been saying) your image is not that good.
I also don't really like the betsize you chose since you are kind of repping boats and nutflushes only while he probably correctly thinks the nutflush isnt completely in your range, i think a half pot bet does a better job repping the queen or ten of spades and has almost the same amount of fold equity.
You also been betting half pot on 4 to a flush boards earlier although in totally different spots it prolly wont look suspicious to him.
I might look a bit results orientated here but i honestly thought about this before he called 
We check behind the flop w/ a good spade mostly because the hand has more equity, and as such we can feel more comfortable peeling various turn cards, spades in particular. I'm a bit confused what your question is in the first paragraph, sorry.
Strongly disagree I am only repping As or better on the river. He almost certainly knows I might use that sizing w/ 100% of my value range there, which is probably like 8s or better. I think 1/2 potting the river absolutely has merit, but the problem is he knows I am very capable of 1/2 potting there w/ total air, so I was worried getting 3:1, he might not fold much of anything in his range on the river. It's close for sure.
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PokerPiet
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thx for the reaction, what i ment was: If we check behind the flop with high spades, we can not rep high spades anymore on the river in this particular hand because we bet the flop. So Villain might be discounting high spades from our value range...
I obv understand we don't "always" check behind high spades, but it does tighten our value range on the river in this hand.
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DonkSupreme
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