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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by whitelime (High Stakes)

Small note on the cold 4bet hand with A9o: Having an ace in your hand adds quite a bit of EV to the play. The 3bettor is ~20% less likely to have a hand that he can continue with when you have the Ace blocker. This applies in any 4-bet situation obv.

Whitelime, please go a little more into your comments about checking a hand with a piece vs. some opponents and not others.

I've only watched this video once so far but you were basically saying that "on a board like this" you would check with something like 2nd pair to induce bluffs but you wouldn't take that line against a "good player". Your reasoning was that the good player couldn't be expected to bluff here as often as a bad player since the good player would "expect you to have a piece when you check here".

I'm very intrigued by your thoughts here but need clarification on the parts in quotes above. Details on board texture. What do you mean by good player in this case. And, why would a good player expect you to have something when you check?

Thanks...love the site so far!

I've only watched this video once so far but you were basically saying that "on a board like this" you would check with something like 2nd pair to induce bluffs but you wouldn't take that line against a "good player". Your reasoning was that the good player couldn't be expected to bluff here as often as a bad player since the good player would "expect you to have a piece when you check here".

You referring to the KQs on AQx hand? I think the problem is that against a good player, they know you're not checking air because you have such good fold equity on this board. If you check your medium strength hands, you end up polarizing your betting range into good ace+ or a bluff. So they can just check down turn/river if they can't beat your hand or they can value bet if they can. You also start getting checkraised or called really light on the flop.

OTOH, if you check vs. a bad aggro player. Then you can possibly induce 1-2 streets of bluffing instead of just folding out his dead hands.

Great video again. My only feedback would be about the breathing in the mic. I don't know if it's because I have a high-end headphone setup and others don't hear it as much but I keep hearing you inhaling very loudly into the microphone. Slightly annoying but no big deal.

I have a high-end headphone setup

Thinly veiled brag post, Stake Monster?


But on to the video. I would also really like some more explanation from Whitelime about situations where we may want to check rather than c-bet our medium-strength hands. A little more info on what board textures we should be doing this with, and how different turn cards and villain reactions to the turn should affect our play would be very helpful. Also, do you think this concept is very applicable to lower to midstakes (200NL / 400NL) games? Seems like since there are more bad players it would be more useful, which is why I really want to get a handle on it.

Very nice vid. I'm really enjoying the series. Can't wait to see the Chipotle vid.

schaffem111,

There are no set rules about when to check medium strength hands. It's mostly about how your opponent will interpret and react to a certain action and how you can use that to your advantage. If you think about that, I'm sure you can logically rationalize when to check and when to bet.

Great video again. My only feedback would be about the breathing in the mic. I don't know if it's because I have a high-end headphone setup and others don't hear it as much but I keep hearing you inhaling very loudly into the microphone. Slightly annoying but no big deal.

I think I had a mild cold or something.

whitelime could you explain why someone with close to equal VPIP and PFR is a prime candidate to 3-bet? i would have assumed someone who never limps would be less likely to get fold equity from. i am definitely going to try it out.

whitelime could you explain why someone with close to equal VPIP and PFR is a prime candidate to 3-bet? i would have assumed someone who never limps would be less likely to get fold equity from. i am definitely going to try it out.

I think the numbers being almost identical tells us that they are rarely calling and the only countering we will see would be 4betting and folding, which are both fairly easy to play correctly.

The gab between vpip/pfr represents hands where you vpip without pfring(coldcalling, limping, calling in blinds etc) and you have to raise preflop to get 3bet, which means the hand counts towards both vpip and pfr whether you continue or not.

You say you probably shove JJ and maybe TT after opening utg and getting squeezed, is there really that much difference between the hands or 55 for that matter, assuming his call range is AK QQ+ or similar to that?

The gab between vpip/pfr represents hands where you vpip without pfring(coldcalling, limping, calling in blinds etc) and you have to raise preflop to get 3bet, which means the hand counts towards both vpip and pfr whether you continue or not.

You say you probably shove JJ and maybe TT after opening utg and getting squeezed, is there really that much difference between the hands or 55 for that matter, assuming his call range is AK QQ+ or similar to that?

He can be calling JJ-88 also, so yeah I think there is a difference between JJ and 55.

Whitelime,

Would you please explain your reasoning behind playing the Ad8d against the pocket TTs hand the way you did. It seems to me that once he calls your rather large bet on the flop he is representing a hand like AJ, TT or KQ minimum, with a possibility of having pocket JJs as well. I just don't see him playing a hand like AK or AQ this way. What type of hand did you put him on that you thought might fold to your shove?

A9o re-raise. How do you know when this is a good idea versus an atrocious idea? How do you proceed if you hit an ace on the flop?