Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by Entity (Mid Stakes)

DANZAS

The first interesting hand where you iso Q7s and cap the flop when you flop the flush, i like capping here alot also, but can you really get away with this every time when youre only capping two pair/sets/flushes? Imo you need to be capping pairs with flushdraws/pure nut flushdraws and possibly gutshots/open enders with flushdraws at least some of the time for this to work out if you have a metagame aware opponent?

Around 6 minutes, i really like the point about having sometimes mixing in some funky capping hands 3ways in position. Whats your standard for value-capping? Including hands like medium/small pairs, KJs/A10s or better? And i have to agree with danza at you have to bet this flop every time when you cap, because youll be betting all the hands in your value range, so checking when you stepped out of line preflop and wiffed the flop is just way to transparent.

Around 12.30, 3betting 77 against CO open and SB coldcall, thoughts on why this is good?

46 minutes in, i absolutely hate the bet with 78 when the Q hits and you have 7AKQ, all the hands he`s peeling that flop with either improved to a pair + gutshot and are never folding the turn and prolly not even the river bc nobody ever folds, or he just nailed the str8. The off chance is he has a 7 as well and he might fold that, but you have one 7 so thats not very likely.

Also Danza made a comment about if youre playing laggy/aggro, do you recommend playing shorter sessions and give your opponents shorter time to adjust to you? Obviously the regulars you play will need shorter/no time adjusting, although they might have hit the reset button when they start a new session.
Around 12.30, 3betting 77 against CO open and SB coldcall, thoughts on why this is good?

And i have to agree with danza at you have to bet this flop every time when you cap, because youll be betting all the hands in your value range, so checking when you stepped out of line preflop and wiffed the flop is just way to transparent.

Honestly this is one spot where balance is completely unimportant. Thinking about balance here vs. these two opponents is far more likely to do you harm than to just go ahead and play your hand face up. If you're going to argue for a bet here, which Chuck clearly has and I still haven't sided on, the argument needs to be 100% math and in a vacuum, because in this spot both of these guys aren't very good and they're different types of bad.

46 minutes in, i absolutely hate the bet with 78 when the Q hits and you have 7AKQ, all the hands he`s peeling that flop with either improved to a pair + gutshot and are never folding the turn and prolly not even the river bc nobody ever folds, or he just nailed the str8. The off chance is he has a 7 as well and he might fold that, but you have one 7 so thats not very likely.

I agree with everything except the "thats not very likely" -- with 2 7's out he can still have 97, 87, 76, 75 which is 32 combos, and he's very likely to fold all of them. He won't fold T7 or J7 but I'm not losing much in equity by betting vs them since I chop a large portion of the time and the only way I can actualize my chop equity is to bet. I agree that it's a check but I think your comments about how often he'll have a 7 or the card canceling effects of it are dead wrong, and I think the fact that I still have 5 outs when called but the fact that I fold out hands that chop with me is a pretty huge point here.

Around 12.30, 3betting 77 against CO open and SB coldcall, thoughts on why this is good?

I think any time you can make a hand somewhat easier to play while capitalizing on value you should strongly consider playing it that way. That means I might do the same thing with A8s or T9s occasionally, because the preflop equity will usually be slightly +EV but 3-betting puts CO in a sticky spot and SB is bad.

Rob

The first interesting hand where you iso Q7s and cap the flop when you flop the flush, i like capping here alot also, but can you really get away with this every time when youre only capping two pair/sets/flushes? Imo you need to be capping pairs with flushdraws/pure nut flushdraws and possibly gutshots/open enders with flushdraws at least some of the time for this to work out if you have a metagame aware opponent?

If your opponent takes their time to think the hand through you're right. But I think you're really not considering the metagame effects of, like I said in the vid, playing the hand fast enough that they don't get the time to realize you can only really have ATx or whatnot. This particular opponent is someone I know a ton about (who knows a fair amount about me as well) so to me it's pretty clear I need to fastplay vs him exactly because of our dynamic. In the future you should be looking for a similar spot to cap vs. someone who is very aggressive, thinks you are very aggressive, and is concerned about potentially being outplayed. It helps even more when you know they're 4-tabling+ because it increases the chances that they will weigh the value of their hand strictly against the board rather than any range vs. range stuff.

Rob

I really liked the comments about the 33/11 type players who are very common imo. You do a good job at breaking down players types in ways that makes it easy to understand how they play.

I completely agree with not needing to balance against two morons in a 5-10 game, but isnt balance really important in spots like this against atleast one good opponent? Seems if we cap and only check back on the boards that completely miss us (not even a single backdoor), we could get outplayed a hell of a lot simply because we would never check back to trap after capping simply because we have built a huge pot and we want to protect/get paid. Am i really worrying to much about this?

Also, i kinda missed the fact that we could be betting him off a chop, also he could "bluff" the river with a 7, in which case we couldnt call anyway. But im glad to see that we agree that it should be a check

I completely agree with not needing to balance against two morons in a 5-10 game, but isnt balance really important in spots like this against atleast one good opponent? Seems if we cap and only check back on the boards that completely miss us (not even a single backdoor), we could get outplayed a hell of a lot simply because we would never check back to trap after capping simply because we have built a huge pot and we want to protect/get paid. Am i really worrying to much about this?

You're just worrying too much about balance I think. I expect to get paid in this spot when I flop a monster on this specific board texture (there are some board textures where I don't expect to get paid where I would bet with this hand). If I have 44 here, I expect to get paid off, so I'm not going to barrel off with 87dd here.

That said, I've decided at this point that I should bet the flop with 87dd but not with the intention of barreling, but that's largely only because there are lots of turn cards where I expect to get called that I want to check back on. I need to think more in these spots about the likelihood of getting checkraised because 3-ways, I still have ~7 outs here sometimes and I can make a more informed decision by betting the flop and seeing the action develop.

Rob

You guys rock, make entertaining videos and made me try out limit for a bit. 5 stars on the first two videos from a perfectionist (100% perfect no, as good as it gets, yes).

I thought this series sucked 4 months ago . Just two idiots trying to out-spew eachother. Only watched the first two and didn't bother to download the rest of the garbage. Now I think it's awesome! I guess I was the idiot .

One hand that was really suprising for me was when Hero 3-bets a tightish-TAG from SB. Bet the flop and XF the turn on 345;5. I wouldn't have been thinking on this turn. My bet would have been in the pot before the 5 hit the board. But I relly like the play when I think it through. Just shows how important it is to not take anything for granted and make auto plays.

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"Limp/Cap A8 epicwin.com edu"

That has to be one of the best lines in a DC video.

Highlight reel imo.

Been a while since I watched this series but got put back onto it thanks to the Dojo and it's just epic. Great Job Guys.