Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by Syous (Micro/Small Stakes)

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Time Link to 00:41:05

Good video guys.


Syous were you monkey tilting......just outta interest because it seems like you were pretty steamed.

umm on the bottom set gven the dynamic and history - I kinda like just min-clicking it back - he has seen you stuffing around with him with clicking it back and folding seems alot of merit to doing it again. With the only drawback being that you prolly dont organise stacks well by doing it 250bb+ deep - but given he can make Hero calls + the good chance fish might bet/call your cold 3bet anyway and bloat the pot - seems like a good time to click it back with your image.

Also bottom left table - you could confirm your read that gino was 3betting polarised and alot less likely to have suited broadways in his 3betting range when he 3bet then checked down 68s from sb. It was also interesting that he might actually take a different attitude to his c-betting range when MW given he did not c-bet a dirty OESD into a field in a 3bet pot.

I'm curious, but are there actually any winning SH players making SSNL-vids on DC?

Time Link to 00:26:09

The J9s hand on table 1: This is probably the worst hand I've seen a coach play in a vid. I mean, sure it's funny. If that's what you're going for, cool. But I don't really see what anyone can learn from it besides don't min-3bet a station that has proven to LOVE to call you down very light (250bb w/ Ace high on a VERY drawy board where all the draws hit). I mean, this has to be an example of how NOT to play against him.

Also, I'm not really sure why playing HU automatically makes you spewy at 6max? If you're good at poker, make the adjustment, imo. You're comment earlier about how someone shouldn't play back at "even you" because you're stats are 45/35 on table 3 seems kind of silly. They shouldn't play back at you because you're being excessively spewy and possibly tilting your stack off? Doesn't quite makes sense...

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I fell asleep here

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tt jj

Good video guys.


Syous were you monkey tilting......just outta interest because it seems like you were pretty steamed.

umm on the bottom set gven the dynamic and history - I kinda like just min-clicking it back - he has seen you stuffing around with him with clicking it back and folding seems alot of merit to doing it again. With the only drawback being that you prolly dont organise stacks well by doing it 250bb+ deep - but given he can make Hero calls + the good chance fish might bet/call your cold 3bet anyway and bloat the pot - seems like a good time to click it back with your image.

Yeah it was def pretty spewtastic. I'd like to reiterate that the point of this series is to illustrate some potential tricky situations that aggro HU players might get themselves into when dabbling in 6max. These situations often promote discussion and are hopefully interesting to our viewers. That being said, there are def some really spewy hands that Syous plays that I would strongly discourage those of you watching to try to mimmick (i.e. the J9 hand). And I'll try to do a better job of making it very clear to you guys when those spots come up in the future.

As for the bottom set hand, yeah Digger, I actually really like clicking it back here. I think that makes it basically impossible for Mrnino to fold, and I think it could def look bluffy to him given our history.

The J9s hand on table 1: This is probably the worst hand I've seen a coach play in a vid. I mean, sure it's funny. If that's what you're going for, cool. But I don't really see what anyone can learn from it besides don't min-3bet a station that has proven to LOVE to call you down very light (250bb w/ Ace high on a VERY drawy board where all the draws hit). I mean, this has to be an example of how NOT to play against him.

Also, I'm not really sure why playing HU automatically makes you spewy at 6max? If you're good at poker, make the adjustment, imo. You're comment earlier about how someone shouldn't play back at "even you" because you're stats are 45/35 on table 3 seems kind of silly. They shouldn't play back at you because you're being excessively spewy and possibly tilting your stack off? Doesn't quite makes sense...

Yeah, that was really atrocious. And yeah, I know I was cracking up during the vid when I should have been berating "Jake LaMotta" over here, but I just thought it was genuinely hilarious. I do hope these vids are entertaining, but of course the educational value takes precedence.

I fell asleep here

I def appreciate criticisms..they help to make me a better coach/vid producer. But I really don't know what you're referring to here. Please let me know what part you didn't like and what you didn't like about it.

Anyway, I fell asleep because I am ill and tired, this is one of the most enteraining videos!
A ton of spewing which I do as well, its nice to know Im not alone.

I have a special request for next week: Could you mix in stakes again and do more than one? I would love to see a table of NL100, you can get tableninja to automate pf raise sizes to 3bb to avoid mistakes, that would be awesome

tt jj

I think those squeeze pf pretty often, but there's prob a little bit of those mixed in there.

I think the turn is a pretty clear call given that he can be playing semibluffs weirdly, and sets are very heavily discounted since I expect him to c/r flop a huge % of the time given the board texture, the fact that it's multiway and that stacks are deep.

I'm curious, but are there actually any winning SH players making SSNL-vids on DC?

We can post graphs if you'd like

Time Link to 00:50:08

Syous - perhaps you are overlooking whilst playing the potential positional awareness of villians coming from a HU background.

In TT vs UTG

He is 29/22 with an ATS of 46 over 250 hands
Given ATS is CO/BTN/SB - and that stat is a part of PFR.

You are entitle to infer that villian is probably tighter from BB/UTG/MP in general in unopen pots.

So you talked about how many 9x and Fd that you can get value out of, now granted Pokerstoves ranging can be problematic....

If he is 22 PFR overall - my guess from experience and the stat - is that his UTG range will be in the 12-15% range.

Raw Stove top 15% is - 77+,A7s+,K9s+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KTo+,QJo

or perhaps
22+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,ATo+,KJo+,QJo

You have like 1-5 9x
You have 7 combination of FD acounting for blockers T and 9
Maaaaybe 88 gets stubborn for one st - doubtful - 6 combos

vs 4 ranks of better PPs = 24 combos
+
2 definite sets 99 and 77 - with maybe some doubt over 222 = 6-9 combos of sets

At best you are good 2 out of 5 times working your way - and of the 2 theoretical combos half of those will be draws which are flipping.

Based upon that I think the TT raise - if it is for value is poor.

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Yeah, that was really atrocious. And yeah, I know I was cracking up during the vid when I should have been berating "Jake LaMotta" over here, but I just thought it was genuinely hilarious. I do hope these vids are entertaining, but of course the educational value takes precedence.

It was pretty ridic, that's for sure. But just for argument sake, what adjustments should we be making against this particular player? He's proven to be a very big station post flop against Syous, but really he's a bit of a nit pre-flop. His stats range from 22/17 to 19/19, although he is 3betting quite a bit--mostly (probably correctly) against Syous. In the J9s hand I think the raise pre OTB 4 handed is pretty standard. The cbet is also pretty standard, although he does like to call with A high, so checking this and just giving up can't be that bad either. The rest of the hand is not really worth looking at, imo. Obviously continuing to min-raise bluff after taking 2 c/raises to the face is pretty terrible.

Against the same villain, Syous calls a 3bet with KJo OOP. To me, calling 3bets OOP with middling broadways is not that great. It's can't be that terrible since he only makes it 10, but still. You mention 4betting later. I think I like 4betting or folding here. He may be 3betting you a lot, but he's still 3betting a pretty narrow mostly value range. And over-betting the river for value is just allowing him to fold too easily. Just because he made a huge hero call doesn't mean he's gonna start calling over-bet jams with A high. I think he's less likely to make hero calls here because of your history.

Also, I'm not really sure why playing HU automatically makes you spewy at 6max? If you're good at poker, make the adjustment, imo. You're comment earlier about how someone shouldn't play back at "even you" because you're stats are 45/35 on table 3 seems kind of silly. They shouldn't play back at you because you're being excessively spewy and possibly tilting your stack off? Doesn't quite makes sense...

The j9s makes me look like a genius or a complete idiot

As a hu player in 6m, I'm constantly making observations and then assumptions about people's ranges. The TT vs UTG hand is a great example of a fault that a hu player may have. We're just used to wide ranges and people making certain adjustments. So when homeboy c/r's that kk7r flop, he msot likely doesn't have kq/ak and if it was hu KJ and possibly KT, making the re-raise pretty good actually. Unfortunately the big difference between 6m and HU is that there is significantly LESS street poker since ranges are tighter and players can afford to pick their spots.

Digger - ty for the analysis, it looks pretty clear then that the TT raise is poor for value (which it was).

CDA - we bluff him in small-med sized pots, value bet him hard, and try to stay out of his way in big pots. 4betting him would've been fun too since we're deep. I should've tested him to see how he would've reacted.

Time Link to 00:31:25

Syous is talking about deciding to flat the QQ because "he's been 3betting all over the place". Shouldn't we take the exact OPPOSITE thought process-we've been 3betting all over the place so everyone at the table wants to bluff catch us-we've already been caught by Mr. Nino and have a terrible image. This seems like the PERFECT spot to 3bet QQ. Isn't this one of the reasons we HAVE a light 3betting range-so we can 3bet QQ+ and get action? I'm just a little confused here. Maybe Syous is overthinking here a bit?

edit-chipchucker makes this point seconds after I made this note. Syous, do you think this is another good example of needing to think on "level 0" where HU, you may have to expect your opponents to be more observant and adjust more quickly (anticipate their adjustments) whereas in 6max, we just play our A game?

Time Link to 00:33:59

Wow...I'm REALLY not liking this QQ fold on the turn. I think this hand kind of got butchered, no offense obv. but this is Mr. Nino we're talking about! Our hand is WAY under-repped, esp considering our loose image, so he could be v-betting a lot of 1-pair hands here like T9s, A9s or TT that is afraid to give a free card to a draw or even something worse that isn't strong enough to ch/C again, and sometimes he might be semibluffing with a hand he thinks has a lot of equity (he may not realize or not care that he has no FE, he's obv. not a pro with his AJ call down last week). I certainly don't think we have enough evidence that this can only be a set or 2 pair, esp considering these will raise the flop often. Even though his line is weird, it doesn't mean it's for value, or that he wouldn't vbet light considering our line looks weak.

I can maybe understand flatting here and having a difficult decision on some rivers, but I don't think that's a good enough reason to just fold here. I donno-I think this deserves some discussion. Any merit to raising the flop after slowplaying pre? Seems like if we are going to fold to a donk on the blankest of turns, a raise on the flop cannot be horrible (our image will get us called or 3bet by worse and then we have the initiative on the turn and an opponent who is known to bluff catch light).

zenben - I should 3b the QQ hand often, i just thought the two behind me would squeeze often enough to eek out more value.

The fold on the turn is definitely speculative. I do wish i had called in retrospect for the reasons you listed. That said, against certain people, I think folding there is fine.

Time Link to 00:58:09

His turn timing (insta call) is also indicative of a flush draw. Even if he had 2 pair or a set, he would consider raising your turn bet at least for a moment. It's either that, or he's decided to bluff catch you no matter what with 1-pair, but when he donks out on that river, he'd have to turn that hand into a bluff-pretty unlikely given he thinks YOU'RE the one who is bluffing. His hand here is a flush something like 99% of the time! (either that or he missclicked the turn with overs!)

nice fold.

I def appreciate criticisms..they help to make me a better coach/vid producer. But I really don't know what you're referring to here. Please let me know what part you didn't like and what you didn't like about it.

As mentined...I have literally fell asleep as I was sweating in my bed with a flu and I was so tired. I just marked the spot to come back to it

This is one of the most entertaining videos and it is even better as I play on Stars and I know a bunch of players that you guys have in your video.


I think that the spews do have educational value, especially for people like me who do the same spews (the minraise of minraise being a typical example, or 'don't bluff the guy' and stack off into his A high anyway 2 orbits later). I would appreciate if you guys could discuss them and what was the likely reason behind making them (psychologically), instead berating or just laughing.

I doubt he was doing the spews for entertainment value in the vid, he would do them anyway if it wasn't recorded I am pretty sure.


I also liked the format of multiple stakes and would like to see that in 100bb vid!

What are you saying lemon? are you saying I'm a donk? Clicking buttons and punting stacks is the only way I know how to make money!


The point of this series if you haven't realized it yet is it's about me trying to see how far I can push the envelope with chipchucker5 telling me what's ok, what's terrible, and what's good.

Think of it as an artist choosing colors for his palette, experimenting with a range of colors or throwing down anything he feels like on canvas after canvas, it's through experimentation you begin to find what works and what doesn't.

You will tell me with a serious face that you expect your play in the J9 to ever work?

Clicking buttons and have decision making impaired due psychological reasons are two completely different things

You played the J9 hand like that because you were tilted and wanted to beat the guy and heroically show him the bluff because he tilted you previously, I have been there way too often and saying otherwise would be a lie my man!
I am almost sure you would go into menu, and untick automuck if you had it ticked, just to be able to show him, just like I do. And it would be nice to dicuss that not laugh it off (however it was funny indeed, fuck...have a good laugh and then dsicuss it ).

Don't make excuses like that you wanted to test things playing 6max because that has nothing to do with it, you are a spew monkey and you must realise that for gods sake!


Damn I got so heated up I am not sure I talk about you or just see myself in what you do

I think it was fine on the flop given my analysis, I do wish I rr'd a little bigger. Turn was horrendous.

I hope you tune into episode 7

Lemon I am the the Union Representative for spew monkeys on Pokerstars and Syous has not been a fully paid up member for years now.

Lemon I am the the Union Representative for spew monkeys on Pokerstars and Syous has not been a fully paid up member for years now.

I have seen his graphs and he seems to be more than solid in HU so I doubt he is a spew monkey there
I guess in 6max it gets more frustrating than in HU when a guy tilts you like the AJs guy did - in HU you play him right away, but in 6max you can't really and there are tighter ranges when you are in the hand with him once more. I also understand that these stakes are much lower than Syous plays regularly and he can have the playmoney syndrome?

I mean something must have caused a solid player to
A) Stack off when he explicitly set himself a goal not to bluff the guy.
B) Do the whole J9 hand.

It would be nice to discuss how HU and 6Max are different psychologically/ in what different ways they can tilt you.

you realize what you're arguing is that the AJdd is an easy call right?

It's a pretty big step to argue that I'm tilting when I'm playing these vids...By all means peg me as someone who's playing me horribly in these vids, but I guarantee your comments would not be the same if we played @ the same tables in 6m. It's much easier to judge from afar than within the tables itself.

The point of this series if you haven't realized it yet is it's about me trying to see how far I can push the envelope with chipchucker5 telling me what's ok, what's terrible, and what's good.

Think of it as an artist choosing colors for his palette, experimenting with a range of colors or throwing down anything he feels like on canvas after canvas, it's through experimentation you begin to find what works and what doesn't.

Beautifully put!

It would be nice to discuss how HU and 6Max are different psychologically/ in what different ways they can tilt you.

Not sure I have too many thoughts on this. But one thing I think is true for most people is that they're more likely to tilt off a bunch of money when playing HU because there's no break in the action and people find it harder to quit. Whereas in 6max you have almost mandatory lulls in the action which can give you time to realize you're tilted and decide to call it a day.

".. and i was going to min 7 bet and take it down and be like "yes! That's how you do it!"

That one made me do a pretty nasty tea drinking nose snort!

Loving the series guys, thanks for all your hard work and brilliant commentary.

Something that I think would be cool to work in, is some more work on shifting gears. I know it's theoretically sound (especially with your style of play) but have yet to see any deucescracked videos really demonstrate this with recorded session play examples. It's more like "and now you should tighten up" but I never see hand range/3bet adjustments being fleshed out throughout a session.

Also +1 for some 100nl stuff but you've obviously got to cater for the greater demographic. Maybe a 2nd series (hint hint).

Anyway when you were talking about the 'end of the series' it made me sad. Like the feeling you get when you're coming to the end of a good book. Hope to see some more 6max videos from you Syous and Chipchucker.

Thanks guys, peace

I personally agree with the QQ fold.

As played, if we assume a Mr Nino pp squeeze range of JJ+ (possibly 10s and 9s) then his flop call range could be evaluated to straights, combo draws, 2 pairs and trips.

I can see the logic in him calling flop with a strong hand like 2 pair/trips and waiting to see a turn. His turn equity shoots up on a lot of cards and when deep this could be some people's preference.

If we move to the donk on the turn, I just can't see him donking with a bare top pair so the relative strength of your hand becomes pretty poor versus his range. This, plus an undoubtably tough river decision for you would make me inclined to make the same fold on the turn.

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I really hope you are not folding 88 vs a cbet on KQ6r in heads up...
btw fwfiw I really like the series, purely for entertainment and information value. I was a moving up 6max player up to 100nl, then making the switch to hu and now swimming midstakes. Always wondering how i would do back in the 6max world. Do you think you would be a winning 400nl player (before and after the series)?

I'm very confident I would've figured it out. Working w/chipchucker helped a lot, I'd be really surprised if I wasn't a solid winner at 2/4 and 3/6. I haven't played 5/10 in forever but if I wasn't a winner now, I don't think it would take me long to become a winner there. My poker knowledge is much richer than it was before.

I really hope you are not folding 88 vs a cbet on KQ6r in heads up...
btw fwfiw I really like the series, purely for entertainment and information value. I was a moving up 6max player up to 100nl, then making the switch to hu and now swimming midstakes. Always wondering how i would do back in the 6max world. Do you think you would be a winning 400nl player (before and after the series)?