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DC Shorts: BalugaWhale (#15) - Passive Two Pair

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DC Shorts: BalugaWhale (#15) - Passive Two Pair by BalugaWhale

Hero plays his two pair passive till things get heated on the river, BalugaWhale reviews the play. Hand is Here.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 13 minutes long
  • Posted about 1 year ago

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Comments for DC Shorts: BalugaWhale (#15) - Passive Two Pair

DwelF

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Hey Andrew,

A quick question on what you are saying around 4 minutes into the video about 3betting AQ on smaller stakes cause villains will call us in position with dominated hands. I feel like regulars at the smaller stakes have kinda learned to not flat dominated hands like AT/AJ but will still call way to often with hands like J9s, hands we don't dominate and have ok equity against us. Does this effect our strategy and how will you change your 3betting if atall?

Posted over 1 year ago

bbb9595

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if we check raise the flop and villian shoves is it a snap call?

Posted over 1 year ago

Prologion

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Time Link to 00:04:20

I agree that this is a super-+ev and good C/R on the flop for Value vs. Villain`s callingrange.
But what is our plan here vs. a 3bet (without reads that Villain is bluff3betting on flops frequently vs. C/Raises or is going very light broke on flops using a flop3bet)?

Posted over 1 year ago

Prologion

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if we check raise the flop and villian shoves is it a snap call?



He will most of the time normally 3bet the flop, not C/Raise.
But if he would just jam, i would tend to make a herocall vs. Draws, just b/c without further reads i would weight his monsters down, when he jams.

Posted over 1 year ago

BalugaWhale

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Hey Andrew,

A quick question on what you are saying around 4 minutes into the video about 3betting AQ on smaller stakes cause villains will call us in position with dominated hands. I feel like regulars at the smaller stakes have kinda learned to not flat dominated hands like AT/AJ but will still call way to often with hands like J9s, hands we don't dominate and have ok equity against us. Does this effect our strategy and how will you change your 3betting if atall?



believe it or not, this is even more of an invitation to 3-bet AQ. J9s isn't really "doing ok" in a 3bet pot vs us.

Andrew

Posted over 1 year ago

BalugaWhale

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if we check raise the flop and villian shoves is it a snap call?



yup, big happy grin.

Andrew

Posted over 1 year ago

bbb9595

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good point so against a 3bet qhat is our move

He will most of the time normally 3bet the flop, not C/Raise.
But if he would just jam, i would tend to make a herocall vs. Draws, just b/c without further reads i would weight his monsters down, when he jams.

Posted over 1 year ago

Prologion

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good point so against a 3bet qhat is our move




If he would 3bet, you almost can fold here vs. some reads, which I mentioned.
But I am not so sure here.

Posted over 1 year ago

BalugaWhale

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good point so against a 3bet qhat is our move


]im ship ship shipping against a 3bet

Posted over 1 year ago

Prologion

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]im ship ship shipping against a 3bet



rly? vs. which range (when we don`t have a read that he will stack off too loght here per 3bet/Broke)?
Or do you just think that he will anyways bluff3bet often enough to make a C/R/Jam-play +ev, with collecting all the deadmoney?
B/c obv. we should not have without read more than 50% EQ (it should be more in the are of 30%) vs. a 3bet/Broke-range -> so we would not ship for pure value.

Posted over 1 year ago

BalugaWhale

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rly? vs. which range (when we don`t have a read that he will stack off too loght here per 3bet/Broke)?
Or do you just think that he will anyways bluff3bet often enough to make a C/R/Jam-play +ev, with collecting all the deadmoney?
B/c obv. we should not have without read more than 50% EQ (it should be more in the are of 30%) vs. a 3bet/Broke-range -> so we would not ship for pure value.



i think an enormous part of his reraise range is NFD related (and potentially even worse draws than that, depending on how aggreo he is), and there's definitely a % of time he's just bluffing as well. basically, its hard to have a set or KK+ here relative to other stuff.

Andrew

Posted over 1 year ago

Prologion

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i think an enormous part of his reraise range is NFD related (and potentially even worse draws than that, depending on how aggreo he is), and there's definitely a % of time he's just bluffing as well. basically, its hard to have a set or KK+ here relative to other stuff.

Andrew




yeah I agree, but even when take in all NutFDs, we have only about 32% EQ vs. something like this:
QQ+, 55, 22, AcKc, AcQc, AcJc, AcTc, Ac9c, Ac8c, Ac7c, Ac6c, Ac4c, Ac3c, KcQc, QcJc, QcTc, Qc9c

But the good thing is that he has "only" to bluff3bet about 30% (depending on bet-/raisesizes) to make it +ev to jam.
for 100BB , he even has to bluff3bet less often of course... + maybe you can make his 3bet_range even a little bit looser sometimes than I made it.

-> so actually it can`t probably be too bad to C/R/Jam here.

Posted over 1 year ago

Prologion

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Time Link to 00:09:13

Super interesting comment of the fact that it is an interesting spot o turn weaker hands into a bluff.
I think, it would work out greater, if the river would be a Tc.
What would be then the best hand you would consider to turn into a bluff?
QJ? KQ or is KQ more a C/F or a C/C? (probably the first one)

Furthermore, aren`t you worrying when considering to turn a hand into a bluff that Villain is not capped in this spot (he could have himself a Flush...)?

Posted over 1 year ago

BalugaWhale

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Super interesting comment of the fact that it is an interesting spot o turn weaker hands into a bluff.
I think, it would work out greater, if the river would be a Tc.
What would be then the best hand you would consider to turn into a bluff?
QJ? KQ or is KQ more a C/F or a C/C? (probably the first one)

Furthermore, aren`t you worrying when considering to turn a hand into a bluff that Villain is not capped in this spot (he could have himself a Flush...)?



he could, and obv that crushes us. But, thats part of what creates our fold equity, and theres a lot of non-flush things that he is thin-v-betting that he mucks (maybe not int his situation, as i said before, because it can be hard for us to run down a flush here, but in other similar situations).

Andrew

Posted over 1 year ago

Prologion

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he could, and obv that crushes us. But, thats part of what creates our fold equity, and theres a lot of non-flush things that he is thin-v-betting that he mucks (maybe not int his situation, as i said before, because it can be hard for us to run down a flush here, but in other similar situations).

Andrew



all right, thanks^^

Posted over 1 year ago

WallyWattz

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Thanks for the analysis Baluga. Totally agree in hindsight that the river is pretty bad. And it really was like you said, it just didn't feel right to c/c 3 streets with this hand and felt like I was missing value.

I can go for the c/r on the flop, that sounds like a good plan. How does the flop plan change if let's say we have the A of clubs, cutting down on his combos of flush draws significantly?

Posted over 1 year ago

runners23

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Thank you so much for Easy game. I have reread that book over 7 times and learn something new everytime. My first day on this site is today and it was a instant join up when my buddy told me you were on here. I cant wait to watch all of your videos and check out what you guys have to offer here. Excellent walk through with this hand. Again thanks BalugaWhale for all of your help with the fabolous book you wrote you have no idea how much it has improved my game. (Sorry for this being long winded) Just Excited! Take care.

Posted over 1 year ago

mdestrel2

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If you raise the flop and he flats I am assuming that you are bombing the turn for ~ Pot sized bet?

What do you plan on doing if you CR the flop, he flats, and another club hits (except for maybe Ac)??
Would you still bet Pot or would you size it smaller so that you could get away from the hand if he shoves??

Posted 9 months ago



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