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DC Shorts: CrackMonkey (#4) - River Decisions

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DC Shorts: CrackMonkey (#4) - River Decisions by Crackmonkey

CrackMonkey reviews a series of hands where he decides to check the river, focusing on whether to call or fold.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 18 minutes long
  • Posted 9 months ago

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SpewKid

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Nice video.

In the last hand, I think it's an interesting spot if the river is a 2. On one hand, he can have a lot of 9x, Tx and 8x. But obviously he can also have a lot of missed draws and random stuff. Both of those ranges are extremely wide and I'm not sure what we should do. What do you think?

Posted 9 months ago

g3orgeluc4s

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I would imagine you'd want to do the same thing as when the king rolls off? We're ahead of the vast majority of V's value range (8x, 9x, Tx) and I'd bet that villain is just as likely to bluff a 2 as he is a king. I think villain is the type to donk out on the river with 8-Tx more often than he checks behind especially since his river agg is reasonably high (if I'm looking at the right stat) and I don't think he'd realize that a 2 is worse to bluff than a K.

As with the king, we're only behind a minority of his super wide range, so I'd think we're still checking with the intention of calling.


Semi-related question, what if villain over bets (or shoves) on the K or the 2? Are we more inclined to fold in that situation or is it still a call? I'm kind of more inclined to call if he snap jams, but I'm not totally confident.

Posted 9 months ago

s0ulmasterlol

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Time Link to 00:16:35

What if he overbets like 100$? are u still calling on this spot?
thanks for this interesting vid anyway..

Posted 9 months ago

Crackmonkey

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Nice video.

In the last hand, I think it's an interesting spot if the river is a 2. On one hand, he can have a lot of 9x, Tx and 8x. But obviously he can also have a lot of missed draws and random stuff. Both of those ranges are extremely wide and I'm not sure what we should do. What do you think?



I'm definitely calling a complete brick river. In fact, the Kc is basically a brick given it almost never helps villain's range here. His range is just so wide here, that I think that any river is a call especially when he pots the river. These extremely high VPIP guys are very apt to just bomb the river as a bluff, even when they can't represent anything. Sure you're going to lose sometimes, but I think you're good way more often than the 1/3 you need to be to justify calling.

Posted 9 months ago

Crackmonkey

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I would imagine you'd want to do the same thing as when the king rolls off? We're ahead of the vast majority of V's value range (8x, 9x, Tx) and I'd bet that villain is just as likely to bluff a 2 as he is a king. I think villain is the type to donk out on the river with 8-Tx more often than he checks behind especially since his river agg is reasonably high (if I'm looking at the right stat) and I don't think he'd realize that a 2 is worse to bluff than a K.

As with the king, we're only behind a minority of his super wide range, so I'd think we're still checking with the intention of calling.



I think he probably checks 9x or Tx, but he may be more apt to bluff with 8x. Hard to say with these guys. I pretty much agree with everything you've said here, especially the part about villain not realizing the 2 is a worse bluffing card than a K. When a guy has a VPIP of 70, he doesn't think about poker that way. He sees his hand, knows he can't win with it at showdown, so he bluffs. He doesn't think that his bluff has to work 50% of the time for it to be breakeven. He only thinks about the fact that he wins 0% of the time if he checks ( although 0 EV > -EV ).



Semi-related question, what if villain over bets (or shoves) on the K or the 2? Are we more inclined to fold in that situation or is it still a call? I'm kind of more inclined to call if he snap jams, but I'm not totally confident.



It's a bit more tricky if he overbets. The K doesn't help him unless he makes 2 pair with it, so we have to think about how often he's going to slowplay the turn as opposed to raising it. I would expect this guy to raise any 2 pair or better hands on the turn, and raise straights at least some % of the time. I feel like it's hard for him to ever get to the river with a hand that both beats us and will overbet shove for value ( he would never do this with a random one pair Kx hand ). Before analyzing this hand, I would probably look him up, but after knowing that a PSB on the river is a bluff, I would probably fold not expecting him to vary his bluff sizes.

Posted 9 months ago

Crackmonkey

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What if he overbets like 100$? are u still calling on this spot?
thanks for this interesting vid anyway..



Same response to the earlier question if he overbet shoves.

Posted 9 months ago

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