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maybe the wrong place to post this, sorry if it is.. | lost a hand yesterday where | was totally thinking about this series and a polarizing bet on the river. $1-$2 full ring game, utg+2 open raises to $7. this guy hadn't raised in over a half hour. | had JJ in mid position. | called, and one of the blinds called as well. flop 724. blind checks, pfr bets $12, | call, blind folds. turn 7247. pfr checks, | check. river 72472. pfr bets $45. | immediately think it has to be a 7 or a bluff. | didn't have a deuce in his range because of his position and preflop action. and didn't have many sevens in his range either. so after thinking for 10 seconds, | fist pump called. he turned over A7s. did | misplay this hand, or misunderstand the teachings of the buffalo??
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Nice hand. You kind of started this line of thought in the vid when talking about what you'd do with KK in this spot, but what's the weakest hand you would call with here? Or would you ever call since the stacks would be really weird on the river with only a little over $200 behind. In that case, what's the weakest hand you would shove here?
"I immediately thought it had to be a 7 or a bluff."
You were right!!
sorry, utg+2 was an aggressive, looser TAG. board was rainbow on turn.
This is by far the best series on DC. Just keep doing this forever guys. I don't see any good reason for this to stop. I'm serious.
How many different incarnations of where the buffalo roam could there be? Maybe purely HU version? Maybe you could thrown in a live video from time to time to keep it fresh? I don't even care tbh. I just want more of the same TBH.
Appreciate it!
Nice hand. You kind of started this line of thought in the vid when talking about what you'd do with KK in this spot, but what's the weakest hand you would call with here? Or would you ever call since the stacks would be really weird on the river with only a little over $200 behind. In that case, what's the weakest hand you would shove here?
prob AK/AJ ish with no other reads
On the 4489ss board (3-bet pot), around the 15 minute mark:
You talk about c/r-ing the turn with a flush-draw. Is this really a good play? I would think that once he bets an eight he isn't folding to your shove. Your hand looks exactly like a draw, as any made hand would bet (at least in his eyes). Maybe with the exception of a monster. And how is this way of playing the hand ever better than just betting turn and shoving river? At least then you have a chance of folding out an eight.
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Agreed that you shouldn't have too many 9s in your range here.
Do you think a reg at mid stakes would be more likely to either (i) bet for protection with a hand like 55, or (ii) bet call with say T8s, than to just call turn if you barrell it?
My assumptions against an unknown would be:
A. the majority of his showdown value hands (incl Ax hands) will not be betting the turn but will call a turn bet (because you can't have too many 9s in your range);
B. he will not be folding many of draws to a turn bet (as you noted in commenting that a 3 barrel would be needed here if you want to bet turn with air) and may in fact ship over a turn barrel if he has a decent draw;
C. that his range is weighted more in favour of showdown value hands (A above) and draws (B above) than pure air.
If these assumptions are correct, do you prefer bet calling the turn for value, protection, and to balance your barrelling range when you do in fact have air?
Good vid. I like your HEM stats prefs. Would it be possible for you to upload it?
On the 4489ss board (3-bet pot), around the 15 minute mark:
You talk about c/r-ing the turn with a flush-draw. Is this really a good play? I would think that once he bets an eight he isn't folding to your shove. Your hand looks exactly like a draw, as any made hand would bet (at least in his eyes). Maybe with the exception of a monster. And how is this way of playing the hand ever better than just betting turn and shoving river? At least then you have a chance of folding out an eight.
8x is just a part of his range. some guys def would never b/f. some would though.
Good vid. I like your HEM stats prefs. Would it be possible for you to upload it?
should be in my #6 or # 7 ghost vid thread
Agreed that you shouldn't have too many 9s in your range here.
Do you think a reg at mid stakes would be more likely to either (i) bet for protection with a hand like 55, or (ii) bet call with say T8s, than to just call turn if you barrell it?
My assumptions against an unknown would be:
A. the majority of his showdown value hands (incl Ax hands) will not be betting the turn but will call a turn bet (because you can't have too many 9s in your range);
B. he will not be folding many of draws to a turn bet (as you noted in commenting that a 3 barrel would be needed here if you want to bet turn with air) and may in fact ship over a turn barrel if he has a decent draw;
C. that his range is weighted more in favour of showdown value hands (A above) and draws (B above) than pure air.
If these assumptions are correct, do you prefer bet calling the turn for value, protection, and to balance your barrelling range when you do in fact have air?
agree with assumptions. betting is likely optimal. obv the key factors are how much he floats and how often he bets to protect.
maybe the wrong place to post this, sorry if it is.. | lost a hand yesterday where | was totally thinking about this series and a polarizing bet on the river. $1-$2 full ring game, utg+2 open raises to $7. this guy hadn't raised in over a half hour. | had JJ in mid position. | called, and one of the blinds called as well. flop 724. blind checks, pfr bets $12, | call, blind folds. turn 7247. pfr checks, | check. river 72472. pfr bets $45. | immediately think it has to be a 7 or a bluff. | didn't have a deuce in his range because of his position and preflop action. and didn't have many sevens in his range either. so after thinking for 10 seconds, | fist pump called. he turned over A7s. did | misplay this hand, or misunderstand the teachings of the buffalo??
against "utg+2 was an aggressive, looser TAG" i prefer 3betting pf and betting turn as played, but I def like your river call.
This is by far the best series on DC. Just keep doing this forever guys. I don't see any good reason for this to stop. I'm serious.
How many different incarnations of where the buffalo roam could there be? Maybe purely HU version? Maybe you could thrown in a live video from time to time to keep it fresh? I don't even care tbh. I just want more of the same TBH.
Appreciate it!
thx
First time I see one of your videos... Do you play 44/36 or am I not seeing right??
First time I see one of your videos... Do you play 44/36 or am I not seeing right??
has hu hands in there too
has hu hands in there too
Oh ok that explains it!
How would your play in the QJ hand differ at smaller stakes against unknowns or fishier opponents? Is it still better to bet and fold to a raise as opposed to checking and re-evaluating on the river? These spots come up somewhat often when the "scare card" hits and you're unsure if you can bet for thin value against players at smaller stakes who may not be aware enough to realize we are betting most of our range on that card.
How would your play in the QJ hand differ at smaller stakes against unknowns or fishier opponents? Is it still better to bet and fold to a raise as opposed to checking and re-evaluating on the river? These spots come up somewhat often when the "scare card" hits and you're unsure if you can bet for thin value against players at smaller stakes who may not be aware enough to realize we are betting most of our range on that card.
vs fish or unknowns i'd either bet really small and fold to a raise or check and call assuming they can't value bet thinly on that card or check and fold if there aren't many combos of busted hands they can make it to the river with (depending on board texture obv)
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