Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by sthief09 (Mid Stakes)

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Calling 3-bets? I LOVE to call 3-bets!!!

I don't get why gutshots have a much higher equity than over cards.
There are 6 outs to overcards, but only 4 with a gutter.
Any idea why a gutter has more equity?

I don't get why gutshots have a much higher equity than over cards.
There are 6 outs to overcards, but only 4 with a gutter.
Any idea why a gutter has more equity?

Overcard outs aren't "clean", you can hit them and still be behind, also they may kill further action if you do hit.

Gutshots are more deceptive.

I don't get why gutshots have a much higher equity than over cards.
There are 6 outs to overcards, but only 4 with a gutter.
Any idea why a gutter has more equity?

Overcards have almost zero equity vs. sets and AA, and 3 outs vs. KK/QQ/AK. Gutshot can have up to 10 outs vs. AK, etc and always has 4 outs.

awesome video. i found the charts very helpful and easy to understand. Any way you can post the charts or the excel sheets? i love the chart with the need hand equities in order for a shove to be profitable.

Interesting discussion of the scenario with 87 vs 99 on t72. If we had T9 in that spot it'd be difficult to figure out the best line as if 87 is a profitable shove then "semibluffing" top pair with say 23% equity would be. I guess it's just a situation where the difficulty of calling and seeing later streets comes into play to determine which is the most +EV play.

awesome video. i found the charts very helpful and easy to understand. Any way you can post the charts or the excel sheets? i love the chart with the need hand equities in order for a shove to be profitable.

yea all the charts would be very cool

35 min

KQ at Q72r flop

we have more EV of pushing
352*0.39*0.628 = (-86) {at example was -91} so difrence between push or min raise is not so small

It seems easier to get people to fold on the high boards in my experience. Think the reason is that they have less outs if they are wrong, so they are less likely to push light vs a small raise.

hey great vid, sthief. clearly u have a put a lot of work into these. Lots of good info... Here are a couple questions-

1) You say that as the high card gets lower, we should be more inclined to fight back (ie 10 7 2) regardless of 3 bet range. But a little later, u say that once he cbets, he will generally have a lot more strong hands in his range (which would make me think we shouldn't play back much). How can these two pieces of info be reconciled?

2) You said that against the loose 3 bet range, we can play back at more ace hi boards, which definitely makes sense. I'd like to know a good threshold for what type of hands are appropriate to play back with. (i.e. perhaps the semi bluff push w/ 87 is a good example) How often is good to make the small bluff raise here w/ total air? (for example, doing this 100% of the time w/ our air is way too much...)

So basically just kind of curious about exactly which hands, and how often, it is optimal to play back on the various flops.


3) As for calling 3 bets in position, what would u suggest as a good starting point for learning exactly what hands to defend against different 3 bet ranges? (can't remember if any of ur vids in this series addressed this specifically). When I watch vids, guys are always defending slightly different types of hands. When I play, I just basically am guessing, and don't really have a great handle on what to defend against whom.


Guess that's enough questions for now! I think this type of analysis definitely serves to raise a lot of questions (which is good if u know how to solve them!). Nice work on this.

Also last 3 min ...

how big is our profit by calling with 87
at video is profit about 40$ but 0.54*158-046*60 = 52.7$
Am I right?

I don't get why gutshots have a much higher equity than over cards.
There are 6 outs to overcards, but only 4 with a gutter.
Any idea why a gutter has more equity?

like the other person said, when you have overcards, there's a chance you run into AA, a set, or a hand that has you reverse dominated (AT vs AQ on Txy). in all this cases, the gutter is still clean, because for the most part, it's drawing to the nuts.

35 min

KQ at Q72r flop

we have more EV of pushing
352*0.39*0.628 = (-86) {at example was -91} so difrence between push or min raise is not so small

hey, looks like i made a couple of mistakes. i'm going to go back and fix these up in a week or two, and have it re-posted. sorry about that

It seems easier to get people to fold on the high boards in my experience. Think the reason is that they have less outs if they are wrong, so they are less likely to push light vs a small raise.

i think i accounted for this in my numbers, making it more likely that someone would push with AK or AQ over a small raise on a T high board, than on a Q or J high board. it still shows that you'll have more success on low boards.

1) You say that as the high card gets lower, we should be more inclined to fight back (ie 10 7 2) regardless of 3 bet range. But a little later, u say that once he cbets, he will generally have a lot more strong hands in his range (which would make me think we shouldn't play back much). How can these two pieces of info be reconciled?

they are both true. the second statement is just relative to his old range. the charts after the c-bet reflect this. you should factor in both effects, because sometimes one will be stronger than the other.

2) You said that against the loose 3 bet range, we can play back at more ace hi boards, which definitely makes sense. I'd like to know a good threshold for what type of hands are appropriate to play back with. (i.e. perhaps the semi bluff push w/ 87 is a good example) How often is good to make the small bluff raise here w/ total air? (for example, doing this 100% of the time w/ our air is way too much...)

asking how often you should do something is more a matter of metagame than anything else. in a vacuum, if you're getting laid the correct price to bluffraise, you should do it 100% of the time. in reality, if you keep doing it, your opponent will adjust and c-bet less, or call your push more, and conversely if you have a snug image, you should absolutely do it. as far as whether or not you should do it in a vacuum, that's the focus of the video.

3) As for calling 3 bets in position, what would u suggest as a good starting point for learning exactly what hands to defend against different 3 bet ranges? (can't remember if any of ur vids in this series addressed this specifically). When I watch vids, guys are always defending slightly different types of hands. When I play, I just basically am guessing, and don't really have a great handle on what to defend against whom.

in position, AA-88 (depending which you 4-bet), AQ, AJs, KQs is a pretty solid and balanced range. make sure you call AA and KK sometimes and don't always 4-bet. the looser the range, the more you want to call with AA and KK

awesome video. i found the charts very helpful and easy to understand. Any way you can post the charts or the excel sheets? i love the chart with the need hand equities in order for a shove to be profitable.

here you go: https://www.yousendit.com/download/Y2ovRE9wMGt3NUpjR0E9PQ

Just a question: I should shove T72r flop with J9 like 100% time ? and with 22 I should make a small raise?If its that easy, its printing money lol

cool, thanks for the nice, clear respoonses.

Just a question: I should shove T72r flop with J9 like 100% time ? and with 22 I should make a small raise?If its that easy, its printing money lol

its not my video, but i would just say keep in mind calling is an option when we have hands like a set as well.

its not my video, but i would just say keep in mind calling is an option when we have hands like a set as well.

yeah i think the conclusion was basically you need to really mix up the way you play your big hands, because there are many effective ways to bluff depending on your hand

Really enjoying this series some interesting things to think about, would like to do this myself. Any chance of getting some links to your spreadsheets , the above link has expired.

here you go: https://www.yousendit.com/download/Y2o5OU1TOC9UWUEwTVE9PQ

Please post this link again. Or find another way to post them

Im also very very interested in downloading the excel file. Any change the file can be reposted? Many thanx in advance.

bump for excel sheet

bump for excel sheet

what he said tia

the link below is all of the spreadsheets. if anyone needs these in the future, please PM me. I don't have a permanent link to these, but I kind of like it that way.

http://www.yousendit.com/download/U0d6Zm1SZ1BlM1R2Wmc9PQ

the link below is all of the spreadsheets. if anyone needs these in the future, please PM me. I don't have a permanent link to these, but I kind of like it that way.

http://www.yousendit.com/download/U0d6Zm1SZ1BlM1R2Wmc9PQ

Thank you! Excellent series!

Does anyone have a link to the spreadsheets? The link posted above has expired.

same here

link?

http://www.yousendit.com/download/Z01OeVdxa0QrV3hFQlE9PQ

if i don't respond right away, feel free to PM me. that goes for anyone. i remember a couple of the people above doing that, so i guess i don't need to keep saying this

the link has expired again..

It would be great if you can get a DC admin to upload to DC server.

the link has expired again..

It would be great if you can get a DC admin to upload to DC server.

I like to do it individually. For fastest response, anyone can feel free to PM me. Sorry it's been a couple of days. Had a very long trip home from Australia.


https://www.yousendit.com/download/S1VEeEVhZy84aU5MWEE9PQ

Yes, unfortunately it expired again