Kick ass. Thx AMT/Sooted! Will check this one out asap!
AMT reviews some select hands from DC member sootedninjas from his adventures in the 180 man turbo SNG on PokerStars.
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Kick ass. Thx AMT/Sooted! Will check this one out asap!
wow... Imagine my surprise. Is it my birthday ? Thanks for the review.... I really need validation on my play if I'm getting it correctly, at least some of it, or just getting lucky. I will be watching it right now.
Can't wait to see this... Thx AMT.
Coooool... looking forward to it.
wow... Imagine my surprise. Is it my birthday ? Thanks for the review.... I really need validation on my play if I'm getting it correctly, at least some of it, or just getting lucky. I will be watching it right now.
Thanks for submitting!
I will be planning to record more small and bigger field MTT content with varying methods (instead of taking out highlighted hands, reviewing a section of a tournament, as one example). Hopefully the method of hand selection in the bigger SNG field is suitable in this video, but if you guys would rather not see a similar method of review, would rather see less of a gap between blind levels or tournament 'stages' discussed in one video, etc... please let me know!
78:45 - KJs hand
What would you say your cutoff here is? As noted, this player really hasn't gotten out of line too much so his range is a bit narrower than what yours or mine would be in that spot. I agree w/ folding KJs as we are behind even A2o, but would you say that AQo is a call? With the seemingly inevitable jump in pay when shorty busts, you obv have to call very tight, but if we call and win, we basically win the tournament. I was trying to think of the worst hand I would call with and I think QQ+ and AQs+ would be my range. I'm folding AJ, but I don't know how I feel about AQo against someone who hasn't showed a tendancy to shove optimally. We don't want to be flipping against the big stack so I'm obv more comfortable w/ QQ+, but I'd go w/ AK because we dominate all of his As. AQ makes me a little less comfortable.
78:45 - KJs hand
What would you say your cutoff here is? As noted, this player really hasn't gotten out of line too much so his range is a bit narrower than what yours or mine would be in that spot. I agree w/ folding KJs as we are behind even A2o, but would you say that AQo is a call? With the seemingly inevitable jump in pay when shorty busts, you obv have to call very tight, but if we call and win, we basically win the tournament. I was trying to think of the worst hand I would call with and I think QQ+ and AQs+ would be my range. I'm folding AJ, but I don't know how I feel about AQo against someone who hasn't showed a tendancy to shove optimally. We don't want to be flipping against the big stack so I'm obv more comfortable w/ QQ+, but I'd go w/ AK because we dominate all of his As. AQ makes me a little less comfortable.
I see your point for such a tight range here, for sure.
The big stack is probably pushing fairly wide here for his range, but wide is a relative term and I don't think he's shoving all of his garbage here, I'm confident in saying certainly not ATC. That said, I think your range might be a little on the tighter side, but perhaps not by much, I might add ATs+ and TT+ (maybe even 88 or 99)...but in game seeing 2nd place so close and feeling a skill advantage heads up I probably fold a lot more than I think I would.
Related to same hand: If the big stack opens for like 3x what's our line? Call and play a pot in position with a decent hand or shove?
Hopefully the method of hand selection in the bigger SNG field is suitable in this video, but if you guys would rather not see a similar method of review, would rather see less of a gap between blind levels or tournament 'stages' discussed in one video, etc... please let me know!
This method was good for this type of tournament review, imo. I think mixing it up will be good, but in general this seems to work really well.
With the KJs hand there is a third option: calling. We are getting a ridiculous price esp. with 400 in antes in the middle, and I see no reason not to call here and play a flop. I think a lot of tourney / SNG players have an aversion to playing postflop poker since so much of their game is <20 bb poker (aka preflop poker). Nonetheless, even assuming no more money went in the pot we only have to win like 1 in 8 times to show a profit, I don't really think there are huge reverse implied odds, etc. etc. Call and play poker.
As for a shoving range, I would definitely be shoving (or calling, but never folding) with 77+, AT+, KQ
With the KJs hand there is a third option: calling. We are getting a ridiculous price esp. with 400 in antes in the middle, and I see no reason not to call here and play a flop. I think a lot of tourney / SNG players have an aversion to playing postflop poker since so much of their game is <20 bb poker (aka preflop poker). Nonetheless, even assuming no more money went in the pot we only have to win like 1 in 8 times to show a profit, I don't really think there are huge reverse implied odds, etc. etc. Call and play poker.
As for a shoving range, I would definitely be shoving (or calling, but never folding) with 77+, AT+, KQ
There is no post flop action if you call. He shoved. This also makes our shoving range irrelevant. Not sure if I understand what you are trying to add.
Was referring to a different KJs hand - 22:40. Comments still pertain to that hand
I had a HUD running and I believe this player was very very tight. 20 hands before this he only raised I think once and 1 limp. 3 shoves. All 3 shoves went to showdown and he won. AKs, AJo & K3o but the K3o was a BvB shove of 3.5BB.
In this particular hand because of my read and considering that the 3rd player has 5BBs left I will only call his shove with AA & KK that's it. (Flying Blinds video anyone.
) Not even QQ or AK. I'll wait for another spot. I'm not going to have a confrontation with another big stack that could bust or cripple me. Even if I know that he is shoving a wide range. Taking down 1st place on a 180 is huge because it represents 50 buy-ins.
Unfortunately, I lost a flip with my pair of 6 when I shoved it against the short stack's J8o then a few hands after that I shove AJs on the big stack and he woke up with JJ. So I ended up 3rd place anyway.
78:45, KJs-
Re: If he opened to 3x, seems like a reasonable jam at that point. I think a player like this could easily be opening with the big stack for a standard raise with a wide enough range that makes KJs appropriate to get it in with here.
The shove was a lot more disconcerting given what we had seen from him at that point/the stacks, but I can't see myself folding AQo here, as I probably wouldn't have folded KJs with a slightly different layout/flow. I'm inclined to lean toward RVsteve's range, as hands like 99 are a lot nicer in this spot than a hand like KJ.
alexhandros,
22:40 KJs hand-- I agree that calling should be considered with this particular hand, and looking over it again, should be stressed as a better option than folding [without very specific info.] for sure. However, with the comments pertaining to the hand strength/stack sizes as it relates to shoving in this spot, would also pertain to calling as well. Specifically, if we're worried about the UTG limper's range here for limping when considering a shove, with a hand like KJ, similar concerns should hold true for flopping any non top pair/big hand with the stacks.
People in SNGs are often averse to post flop 'play' because there really is no play post flop with these effective stacks. Flopping 2nd pair and bet/folding even makes me completely cringe with how big the PSR's would be at that point, and the entire situation would become really tricky if you had ruled out a shove for those same range concerns.
For these reasons, I'd still put shoving as the best play here with UTG's stack size in the 2.20s. Shoving> calling >> folding IMO.
AMT, I'm glad your doing these videos. you rock
well done sir
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Thanks AMT..I downloaded the WMV version and it was OK. Great video. enjoyed it.
Just for the record
, I think this was my 3rd or 5th MTT/SNG that I played so there is alot of donkey play on my part. I had made a lot of the adjustments based on the review and would like to say, ahem... brag, that after 1.5k games I have been consistently sustaining a 20% ROI not just lifetime but from session to session. Now that I'm consistently making correct decisions, well not all of them, started to 8 to 10 tabling these games and working maxing it up to 15. I do know a few players who 25 table stack the 45 man turbos and maintaining a 20% ROI. Just sick, sick, sick.
I recently re-watch the review and on the 1st hand that Mr. AMT analyzed, wow I'm such a spew monkey making that play. Missed the flop on a multi-way pot, cBet and got re-raised and what do I do, freaking ALL-IN FTW. Nowadays, unless I got a read on my opponent will cbet or I'll just check-fold.
Thanks AMT.
No problem man! Watch the new video for the last few minutes where we go over some of your 45 man hands. Still got a bit of work to do and we'll see that ROI go up even higher
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Oh yeah. Def. When your 8 to 10 tabling and you have less than a second to decide what to do then leaks will always be there 'coz my game is not even close to semi-perfect and my reads are HUD dependent w/c is not necessarily accurate because the dynamics of the table changes all the time and players get moved table to table. The reason I'm playing these many tables is because I want to raise my hourly rate, the only way to do on low limit games to earn significant profits and build a bankroll. When my bankroll is in place to play the medium buy-in games then I do plan to reduced the number of tables maybe 8 tops because at this point the players are much much more better and you have to play a perfect A-game all the time during the whole session.
Unfortunately, I look like donkey/monkey hybrid on the videos
but I want my leaks plug and that's what HH reviews are all about, not a popularity contest.
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It's a false positive -- there's no way to embed a trojan in a video file to my knowledge, and I can guarantee there's no viruses/spyware/trojans on any of these files.
Rob
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