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MTT: Skitz0frenik (#3) - 180man MTT Part 1

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MTT: Skitz0frenik (#3) - 180man MTT Part 1 by Skitz0Frenik

Skitz0frenik is deep in a $12 180 man MTT on PokerStars and takes you along the ride to the final table.

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  • Game: mtt
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 28 minutes long
  • Posted about 4 years ago

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Suited Aces

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Really liked this video, we could really use more content like this. All of your videos (Skitz0frenik) have been really good so far IMO.

I really liked how you pointed out that you're 'letting the spots come to you' since the stacks are so short. In these spots as a big stack I tend to find myself trying to force the action and occasionally get into some bad spots because of it (usually spewing off chips in the process).

Posted about 4 years ago

jayfly

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Time Link to 00:26:28

I'm curious what you think of limp/calling instead of shoving. It seems like he's shoving any two over your limps

Posted about 4 years ago

aesah

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Time Link to 00:19:12

You said that FlyP had too many chips behind to make restealing here effective, however wouldn't you shove this hand if it were folded to you? And since button is still in the hand, he should be calling even tighter.

In other words, I don't really understand how the BB being there makes or breaks the choice here. Would you reshove over Cunsi if Fly only had, say 20k chips?

Posted about 4 years ago

rrumsey

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I'm curious what you think of limp/calling instead of shoving. It seems like he's shoving any two over your limps


but what if he doesnt shove and we miss the flop? less variance imo to just jam it. also, he is going to probably be more suspect of a shove then a weakish looking play. he knows we know what we are doing at this point, he is not going to ship super light imo.

Posted about 4 years ago

rrumsey

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You said that FlyP had too many chips behind to make restealing here effective, however wouldn't you shove this hand if it were folded to you? And since button is still in the hand, he should be calling even tighter.

In other words, I don't really understand how the BB being there makes or breaks the choice here. Would you reshove over Cunsi if Fly only had, say 20k chips?



i think it is mostly that he doesnt wanna risk doubling up the good player at that point, plus most likely the fish on the button isnt folding enough. fish love to defend with a2 and shit like that, and that has got us in a world of hurt

Posted about 4 years ago

rrumsey

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good vid, would love to see more bubble play and just after being ITM trying to abuse the FT bubble and adjusting to when people start limping a ton after they make the money ( which i see a lot in the $2-4 versions of these)

also- any plans to do a rushament? like a $4 or $11 135 man turbo rushament on ftp?

Posted about 4 years ago

Uninc158

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Hu, i think flyp realises that at less than 20bb, he should be minraising rather than making it more than the minimum since your shoving/folding rarely calling and shoving on raises and that seeing flops is bad.

I think at one point you fold after limping the btn a few times in a row, and then you decide to minraise a hand on the basis that its unlikely that hed come over the top without a good hand. I think that if you had a good hand youd probably want to limp with it, hoping he shoves on us, so your range for minraising is substantially weakened and therefore his range can widen significantly.

Posted about 4 years ago

Skitz0Frenik

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Really liked this video, we could really use more content like this. All of your videos (Skitz0frenik) have been really good so far IMO.

I really liked how you pointed out that you're 'letting the spots come to you' since the stacks are so short. In these spots as a big stack I tend to find myself trying to force the action and occasionally get into some bad spots because of it (usually spewing off chips in the process).



Glad you like the video Smile

Posted about 4 years ago

Skitz0Frenik

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I'm curious what you think of limp/calling instead of shoving. It seems like he's shoving any two over your limps




I think that would be fine and definitely profitable considering how wide he's shoving on my limps

Posted about 4 years ago

Skitz0Frenik

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You said that FlyP had too many chips behind to make restealing here effective, however wouldn't you shove this hand if it were folded to you? And since button is still in the hand, he should be calling even tighter.

In other words, I don't really understand how the BB being there makes or breaks the choice here. Would you reshove over Cunsi if Fly only had, say 20k chips?



Very nice pickup. Looking at it now I think it's a good spot on my part to resteal, for the reasons you mentioned. His PFR % is 9, but only over 32 hands so we can't put too too much stock in that. Based on the stacks and that I am shoving into Fly anyway, I think it is better to resteal than to fold.

Posted about 4 years ago

Skitz0Frenik

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but what if he doesnt shove and we miss the flop? less variance imo to just jam it. also, he is going to probably be more suspect of a shove then a weakish looking play. he knows we know what we are doing at this point, he is not going to ship super light imo.



I agree it is less variance to simply jam it. However, not sure if he is still at a lot of tables, but it seems up to this point he really isn't letting up with the shoving on my limps. I still do think there is significant value in limp/calling. It's been a while since I played the game so I don't remember the "flow" of it too well, but I am sure either options is good.

Posted about 4 years ago

Skitz0Frenik

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i think it is mostly that he doesnt wanna risk doubling up the good player at that point, plus most likely the fish on the button isnt folding enough. fish love to defend with a2 and shit like that, and that has got us in a world of hurt



Yes, you are right in that I am folding there to avoid doubling up the one good player (who happens to be behind me). Even so, I do think this particular raiser will fold out most of his opening range so it would be profitable.

Posted about 4 years ago

Skitz0Frenik

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good vid, would love to see more bubble play and just after being ITM trying to abuse the FT bubble and adjusting to when people start limping a ton after they make the money ( which i see a lot in the $2-4 versions of these)

also- any plans to do a rushament? like a $4 or $11 135 man turbo rushament on ftp?



At this point I don't have plans to do the rush tournaments because I'm not accustomed to them (don't want to make something I'm not totally confident you guys can learn from!)

If demand is high enough though I will play a bunch and make one when I feel like I know what I'm doing.

Posted about 4 years ago

marlow

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Still amazes me how much raise-folding you do getting the odds vs 10bb effective stacks and then use the "he has 10bb effective so I'll shove here" line for another hand. Quite bizarre and it doesn't make it too easy for us to know when the hell to raise-fold or shove. U do pass up ALOT of +ev spots. Early at the FT Q6s is +ev, then the 22 when 5 handed is +ev, with this stack you can crush crush crush all the way without making a single -ev move. Interesting lines but tough for us to mimick Smile

Posted over 3 years ago

Skitz0Frenik

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Still amazes me how much raise-folding you do getting the odds vs 10bb effective stacks and then use the "he has 10bb effective so I'll shove here" line for another hand. Quite bizarre and it doesn't make it too easy for us to know when the hell to raise-fold or shove. U do pass up ALOT of +ev spots. Early at the FT Q6s is +ev, then the 22 when 5 handed is +ev, with this stack you can crush crush crush all the way without making a single -ev move. Interesting lines but tough for us to mimick Smile



Having trouble following your critique here... the 22 hand is probably +EV but what are the other spots you speak of? You said I am passing up "ALOT" of spots, including a Q6s hand? The only Q6s hand I see is where a deep UTG opponent limps and folding is clearly the only option. One spot I could have shoved was the J2o where the player with like 800 chips folded and everyone behind had 30k+... although you didn't mention that. If you could be more specific and maybe point out on the timeline where you have questions/comments that would be helpful. Thanks!

Posted over 3 years ago

marlow

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Ahh maybe I missed a limp there then, my bad. I think there was a K9s hand you go to raise fold, I can't find it now but I'm sure everyone behind was nigh on 10 real bbs.

Posted over 3 years ago



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