Poker Video: MTT/SNG by Soepgroente (Mid Stakes)

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Will you make TD videos ?
It would be a great addition to those that DD makes.
neekola.

Will you make TD videos ?
It would be a great addition to those that DD makes.
neekola.

For sure if there's room in the DC schedule for any .

Nice first vid buddy. You sounded a bit nervous at the start but didn't take long to get into it.
Sick cr river bluff when the fd came off btw.

Great job for your first video. Some pretty ballsy poker there. I think I have some spots I disagree with you. There were parts of the video that were a bit hard to follow, when you mixed reasons on why you should do what. I got the feeling that sometimes you argued why something would be a fold, then some points on why to call, then again points on why to fold. I would like to see a bit more structure - something like this, this and this would make this a fold, but this, this and this would make this a shove. I think made very good points in the video and your reasons made sense. I liked this format, picked spots were interesting and good job on including the whole heads-up.

Out of curiosity, what does Soepgroente mean in English?

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I think that this is never a terrible call, as 97o is a quite robust holding. It is just never a profitable call against a tight player who is just trying to survive (which is what ducttapeworm is according to your reasoning).

If we think about just ChipEV, we need to call 38.7% of the pot. If he would be active and shoving ATC here, we would get 46.3%. But for this to be a breakeven call he needs to be shoving at least 62.5% (22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J2s+,T2s+,95s+,85s+,74s+,64s+,54s,A2o+,K2o+,Q4o+,J7o+,T7o+,97o+,87o,76o), which a tight player would not do. When taking ICM into consideration, I believe you would be breakeven at around 70-75% range. Even if he is going to fold the chips back, chances are that others are going to benefit from those chips as he is sitting to your right.

I think there's a bit of marketers fallacy - if you can't measure marketing's effects, you can always call it brand marketing and be happy with it. I believe this call can't be a good one from monetary perspective, but if you add in some value (crazy european image) you really can't measure, you can be happy with it. I just think you're cheating yourself here.

i usually don´t watch tourney videos but started this one just to try one and really liked it a lot. I also thought that this format was really good for the final table and for me as a tourney fish very interesting.

Out of curiosity, what does Soepgroente mean in English?

I can answer that question for you. Soep == soup, and groente == vegetables

Great job for your first video. Some pretty ballsy poker there. I think I have some spots I disagree with you. There were parts of the video that were a bit hard to follow, when you mixed reasons on why you should do what. I got the feeling that sometimes you argued why something would be a fold, then some points on why to call, then again points on why to fold. I would like to see a bit more structure - something like this, this and this would make this a fold, but this, this and this would make this a shove. I think made very good points in the video and your reasons made sense. I liked this format, picked spots were interesting and good job on including the whole heads-up.

Out of curiosity, what does Soepgroente mean in English?

That's good feedback. Is there anything specific in the vid where you were uncertain about the final conclusion of the hand? If so I'll rewind and post my final thoughts

And hielko is of course correct; Soepgroente literally means Soupvegetable.

I think there's a bit of marketers fallacy - if you can't measure marketing's effects, you can always call it brand marketing and be happy with it. I believe this call can't be a good one from monetary perspective, but if you add in some value (crazy european image) you really can't measure, you can be happy with it. I just think you're cheating yourself here.

I think you might be right, I think I overestimated my equity here and forgot one important factor entirely: as long as that guy is really short I can put a lot of pressure on medium stacks as a bigstack due to ICM. I think that's more important than the crazy euro image thing (which isn't that significant as calling off a 6bb shove with pretty much anything isn't that spewy) Thinking some more about it I like a fold. I'm really not sure how wide he's jamming there but the fact that he's jamming JTo makes it at least somewhat wide, but the 62.5% range seems wider than I'd give him credit for.

He might've always just picked up absolute garbage every hand before this and got raised every time though, so it's always tough to know a non-regs range in these spots.

Welcome! Goeie vide De kj hand was echt een mooie hand zeg! En je engels is echt prima.

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nice

very nice

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what do you think of lead/folding this river?

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what do you think of lead/folding this river?

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(32m J9 hand)

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(32m J9 hand)

I don't see him putting us on a bluff or calling down light here, if your opponent is a big station then sure but otherwise he's just going to put us on an ace if we c/c twice then donk and we're effectively bluffing with the second nuts. The only way we could have a bluff here is to turn a hand into a bluff with showdown value, but that's hard as most of our hands that get to the river have a good pair or two pair that has enough SD value anyway.

I don't see him putting us on a bluff or calling down light here, if your opponent is a big station then sure but otherwise he's just going to put us on an ace if we c/c twice then donk and we're effectively bluffing with the second nuts. The only way we could have a bluff here is to turn a hand into a bluff with showdown value, but that's hard as most of our hands that get to the river have a good pair or two pair that has enough SD value anyway.

hmm yeah i guess i wasn't considering what he thought of our range enough. i can't really remember what kind of player he was (v aggro?), but if he's a fish i think you definitely get looked up by 2pair a lot here if you donk on the small side.
and it would take some kind of special spewtard to raise your bet as a bluff, so don't think we should be worried about that.
you say he's going to check back everything with SD value, and rarely bluff, and i think there is a definite non-zero chance that he calls OTR with worse if we make it like 180k or something.
guess it comes down to how good he is as to whether checking or betting is better.

He seemed quite passive and not really capable of firing 3 streets as a bluff very much. I was actually going to c/f as it really looks like we're c/c'ing so with the combination of him having showdown value most of the time (at least in his mind, whether something like J8 actually has showdownvalue vs anything I could have is debatable, but he'll have a pair at least almost always after firing twice), probably not calling too light and having an ace a fair bit so I don't think b/f > c/f. I would lead an ace any day though. With a 9 I think we get called less by worse than that we get raised by an ace.

you dont three bet in some certain spots that you should, then you 3-bet in some spots you shouldnt.

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i think a check call with 88 99 or jj on the flop and then large bet to push the draws out on the turn when the heart adds the second flush draw is well in his range