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The Coaching Tree: Episode Five

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The Coaching Tree: Episode Five by tubasteve, BalugaWhale

BalugaWhale and Tubasteve review a video submitted by DC member mpethybridge. The analysis splits between deep stack and normal 100NL.

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BalugaWhale and tubasteve climb the Coaching Tree. Many may not know that BalugaWhale is tubasteve's old poker coach. Watch them reunite as Steve coaches our members and Andrew coaches Steve on the coaching. 6max NL.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 70 minutes long
  • Posted over 3 years ago

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Comments for The Coaching Tree: Episode Five

Ulkis

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By far the best one in the series yet. Packed with information. 5 stars easy.

Posted over 3 years ago

tubasteve

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By far the best one in the series yet. Packed with information. 5 stars easy.



did you hear your shoutout? Smile

Posted over 3 years ago

dogmeat

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really interesting content, pls do more fr vids in this series

Posted over 3 years ago

SSankarAA

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Coaching tree is awesome, but FR Frown and only 2 table Frown

having awesome producers should = awesome 6max Smile

Posted over 3 years ago

caderousse

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Yay Coaching Tree! Favorite series of this season.

Boo full ring though! But it says something to how good this series is, in that I'll watch the full ring vids too. Just too much good info to pass up.

Posted over 3 years ago

xerocat

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28:00 AQ folds to 4/3's EP raise

Against an nitty EP raise, it seems really marginal to call since he's probably not doing this with AJ/KQ (AJ+, KQ is closer to 8%). Granted, it's a small sample, but we have an idea of his range and know he's at his most narrow range from that position.

If we flop an Ace, we're good most of the time and pick up a cbet and that's about all. If our Q is good, we'll do the same. However, some of those times we'll call a cbet and fold the turn, giving some of that back. It seems like this would be slightly profitable until you consider that the majority of the time we aren't going to flop anything and have to fold, which puts a lot of pressure on getting more value post-flop when we do make a hand to make the situation profitable, something that will be difficult vs a nit.

Also, aren't we putting ourselves in a situation were we can get cooler'd if he's never playing AJ/KQ, etc? If the flop were AAx, we may not get stacked because we're aware of how tight his range is if we're getting action, but we stand to lose a little more than a cbet. Doesn't this make the situation very marginal over the long run?

We don't want to win pots, we want to win money, right? Horseshoe I thought a lot of BW's arguments for why not to call with AJs (51:00) apply to this situation too. But this is all really nit-picky (no pun intended), just wanted to get the thoughts down.

Posted over 3 years ago

Ulkis

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did you hear your shoutout? Smile



Whaddya mean, I don't get this? I guess not...

I got 2 pages full of notes in small print from this episode. I reckon this and the previous FR one in the series are the best FR content I've seen. Full stop.

Posted over 3 years ago

tubasteve

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Whaddya mean, I don't get this? I guess not...

I got 2 pages full of notes in small print from this episode. I reckon this and the previous FR one in the series are the best FR content I've seen. Full stop.




i interrupted baluga, then said you would be mad at me Smile

Posted over 3 years ago

xerocat

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Really really interesting hand to end on. Awesome. 5 Stars EZ guys. Thanks.

Posted over 3 years ago

n0whereman

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Blennus

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WuTank

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very well done, could the video poster please share his PAhud layout

Posted over 3 years ago

Moneyball16

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Good vid. Loved the analysis of how we would play different hands based on our vulnerability and equity on the last hand and how we should balance etc.

As for the AQo fold I think that Matt made the right play and I completely agree with xerocat. In that situation I just dont see much difference between AQo and something like A3o or T7o due to the fact that I dont think villain ever has AJ or KQ in his spot and maybe not even AQo.

I also think that the AJs hand that a c/c c/c line is better than a c/r flop line and I thought this before he turned over KK too. I think that most of the same players that would call a push with a underpair are also the same players that say f it and push the turn, but just c/c the flop allows us to maybe get some marginal calls on the river that we wouldnt get on the flop due to our shown weakness if the turn checks around and if he did something crazy with some trash preflop or even made a misclick he is not calling a flop c/r cause he would have nothing but he may bluff shove the turn. I alos think c/c c/c is better than c/c c/f because I think we just run into enough underpairs and random trash to make calling profitable.

Posted over 3 years ago

evanmorgan

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Any 6maxers who choose not to watch this because it is FR are missing out big time, i learnt a lot from this and i dont plan on playing any full ring in the immediate future.

Posted over 3 years ago

Sounded Simple

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Any 6maxers who choose not to watch this because it is FR are missing out big time, i learnt a lot from this and i dont plan on playing any full ring in the immediate future.



This is 100% correct.

Posted over 3 years ago

mpethybridge

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very well done, could the video poster please share his PAhud layout



Screen name/went to showdown%
(hands) Fold BB to steal/Fold SB to steal/Attempt to steal
VPIP/PFR/AF
3 bet/Fold to 3 bet/c-bet/fold to c bet

Posted over 3 years ago

mpethybridge

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Good vid. Loved the analysis of how we would play different hands based on our vulnerability and equity on the last hand and how we should balance etc.

As for the AQo fold I think that Matt made the right play and I completely agree with xerocat. In that situation I just dont see much difference between AQo and something like A3o or T7o due to the fact that I dont think villain ever has AJ or KQ in his spot and maybe not even AQo.

I also think that the AJs hand that a c/c c/c line is better than a c/r flop line and I thought this before he turned over KK too. I think that most of the same players that would call a push with a underpair are also the same players that say f it and push the turn, but just c/c the flop allows us to maybe get some marginal calls on the river that we wouldnt get on the flop due to our shown weakness if the turn checks around and if he did something crazy with some trash preflop or even made a misclick he is not calling a flop c/r cause he would have nothing but he may bluff shove the turn. I alos think c/c c/c is better than c/c c/f because I think we just run into enough underpairs and random trash to make calling profitable.



First of all, many thanks to BalugaWhale and Tubasteve for accepting my video. I have learned a ton from their comments.

BalugaWhale really has me thinking about the AQ spot. This seemed like a no-brainer fold to me. In addition to the UTG raise by a 4/3 uber-nit, the TAg to my right is likely playing an implied odds hand like a pocket pair or suited connector. So sometimes I am going to hit an ace and he is going to flop a set or two pair or a combo draw and I am going to be in big trouble.

As for the AJ hand, I was really worried about that hand, as Steve said in the video. I would not have called any more of a raise preflop. When I flopped the ace, I KNEW I was either way ahead or way behind. The deciding factor for me in the hand was that the villain shoved the turn. I generally find that at our stakes, short stacks make big bets when they are relying on fold equity to win some pots; in other words, if the villain had had AA, AK or AQ, I felt like he would have massaged the pot a bit on the turn rather than shoving. So I felt pretty strongly that he would not shove there with any of the hands that beat me. Which was why, after making the decision to 3 bet TT on table two, I went over and snap-called the shove on table 1. It was this read on the turn that I was really worried about. I THINK it was right, but I definitely wanted to hear what Tubasteve and BalugaWhale had to say about it.

Posted over 3 years ago

consuellas_revenge

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Great great video once again. Baluga explains his thoughts so clearly and deliberately. Thanks again!
Also, yay for mpethy!!!(even though he's a giant nit!)!!!!!!!!

Posted over 3 years ago

Zami80

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Very good episode, learned a lot from this one especially. 5 stars obv.

Posted over 3 years ago

mogwai316

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Good stuff as always. The TT hand at the end where you guys started talking about getting him to fold his equity share, and how with 33 you'd always bet, with KK there's no reason to bet, and TT is like right on the border. That was a great discussion and I felt like I was on the verge of an epiphany but then I got sidetracked (because Baluga called the guy who was 15/13/15.0 over 300 hands passive, lol). I need to rewatch that part and think about how it applies to different situations. If you guys see an opportunity to go into more detail about that topic in future videos, that would be awesome though.

Posted over 3 years ago

shark_fishin

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another sick good video.
even tho i play 6max, this was just awesome.

thanks guys

Posted over 3 years ago

craiggerz

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my god my eyes are bleeding from watching that display... props to finding stuff to talk about during that fold fest.

Posted over 3 years ago

swissmiss

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Let me mention the obvious:
1. Great video, super team
2. Sexy voice baluga
3. Could you please tag all fullring content accordingly so it is easier to find?

Posted over 3 years ago

comura

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Great video all around, love the FR content as always!

One thing that I think should be noted is the villan in the TT hand that we 3 bet at the end of the video, was easily the most aggressive player at that table, and was not tight as suggested he had stats of 15/13/15 over 269 hands I think this is important b/c if we check behind the flop I feel he is betting 100% of his range on the turn, just not sure what to make of the pot size however-either way I think the flop was a bet and turn we have to fold.

Posted over 3 years ago

jasons0147

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JJ @ 33:40.

We cbet a 3c9s7c board....standard. We fire on the 7s turn, standard. And he folds.

What are we doing on most rivers if he calls our $19 in to $25 turn bet? Assume the river is a blank.

Posted over 3 years ago

$tudlani

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Lots of good information love the discussions between both of you.

Posted over 3 years ago

Kayos

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I think baluga hogs the video. No offense but I think baluga needs to let tuba steve get more thoughts in.

Posted over 3 years ago

Kayos

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disregard my last post. Baluga stops doing it as much after the 15 min mark.

Posted over 3 years ago

Subbacultcha

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On the TT hand at the end, I think I understand why betting the flop is better than checking, but what would you do with JJ or QQ in that spot? I'd be a little more inclined to check than with TT, but I still feel like I need to bet with those hands.

I'm rewatching this series and taking more notes, and people who haven't watched these are definitely missing out. Probably the best live-play series I've seen all year for those who are at 50NL-200NL.

Posted over 3 years ago

Tobago

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Can someone help me, i'm new here and balugawhale and tubasteve reffered to a video on equity from someone named "Josh" (if i understood correctly). Can someone plz help me find this, i can't find the author in the search engine of deucescracked, or maybe i don't know the nickname...

Ty! Awesome video btw Smile

Br, -t

Posted over 3 years ago

Lofix82

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Can someone help me, i'm new here and balugawhale and tubasteve reffered to a video on equity from someone named "Josh" (if i understood correctly). Can someone plz help me find this, i can't find the author in the search engine of deucescracked, or maybe i don't know the nickname...

Ty! Awesome video btw Smile

Br, -t



If it's still important, the name of the series is PROFESSOR PLOTKIN by sthief09

Posted 4 months ago



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