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Ansky vs durrrr: Episode One

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Ansky vs durrrr: Episode One by Ansky

Ansky gives an overview of his heads up battle with durrr and begins to analyze hands from the match.

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Dani recreates a $40kNL match he played vs the infamous and enigmatic Tom "durrrr" Dwan in 2008.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: High Stakes
  • 48 minutes long
  • Posted over 1 year ago

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would be much more interesting without seeing the results at the beginning of each hand Grin

Posted almost 2 years ago

DiggerTheDog

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Ansky: When you look over these hands was there any '08 things that either of you did that would not happen now?

Of the misplayed hands - what was happening? Was it technical mistakes or the fact you were shottaking vs durrrr? How much better prepared would you be now vs durrr '08? Has the fact that he is playing those stakes soo much since mean that his game has moved past where you can profitably shottake if you are not nosebleed regular?

Posted almost 2 years ago

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I love the "what the hell is wrong with me" lol - I have so many of those.

Posted almost 2 years ago

hayes13

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When you CR JTo, on the A65dd board, what do you think tom's range for 3 betting flop is?
Big aces, sets, two pair, does he ever do it with just a FD or straight draw in his range?
These hands never have that much equity because of the ace on board, unless he thinks he makes up for it with FE because you CR bluff too often.
I am assuming he isn't pure bluff raising that flop.

Is this the right way of thinking about the hand?

Posted almost 2 years ago

hayes13

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Time Link to 00:33:37

On the A77cc board you can't really have AJ to lead though because you would 3 bet pre right? Since tom isn't 4betting and you are opening up your value range to adjust to him calling so much.
This being said, if you take the more standard line of checking flop are you ever CRing an ace?
Does CRing have any merit? or does it just open you up to a whole lot of guessing as with leading?

If you CC will tom always put you on an ace?
you cant have many medium pairs since you would 3 bet pre, same with many combos of King's because the big ones you would 3 bet and small ones you are just folding pre oop.

Posted almost 2 years ago

hayes13

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Time Link to 00:47:12

Since you shoved on this river pretty bad river, you will be shoving any river?

Say you bet bigger on the turn,
Are the only options on the river to check or bet all in?
Do you ever bet a size in between?

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Time Link to 00:46:25

What do you think of X/C on this river with AA?

It seems like there are hands that he might bet with that he wouldn't call, perhaps occasionally with missed clubs, Tx, a bad Qx, etc. Probably not that often but it seems like he would have trouble calling a bet with worse than a good Qx. Since his calling range is pretty narrow and his potential betting range for both thin value or bluffs is a lot wider, even if he only bets with some of those hands, could checking to induce be your best way to get value? I'm not sure what your range is in this river spot with the line you have taken, but it seems like a lot of players would have some hands that they would x/f in your spot and that he might take a stab if you check to him.

Posted almost 2 years ago

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What do you think of X/C on this river with AA?

It seems like there are hands that he might bet with that he wouldn't call, perhaps occasionally with missed clubs, Tx, a bad Qx, etc. Probably not that often but it seems like he would have trouble calling a bet with worse than a good Qx. Since his calling range is pretty narrow and his potential betting range for both thin value or bluffs is a lot wider, even if he only bets with some of those hands, could checking to induce be your best way to get value? I'm not sure what your range is in this river spot with the line you have taken, but it seems like a lot of players would have some hands that they would x/f in your spot and that he might take a stab if you check to him.



your assumptions seem random

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Really nice video.

On the KK hand. That's not a c/r on the turn but a b/3b from durrrr.

So do you think if he donks bet instead of c/rs Poke Tongue

Thank you for the vids ansky !

Posted almost 2 years ago

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suggestions: play durrrr hu now and record then commentate.

This session is from 2 years ago and im sure theres stuff to learn but it is unfortunately still a session from two years ago.

Posted almost 2 years ago

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You can use the + instead of pressing play when viewing the hands.

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Everybody is like "omg/sick/awesome". That's so cliche.
It's not that I would't enjoy watching some hands of durrr but come guys, no need to freak out, it's not even a live session and it's from 2 years ago.

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Yeah I agree with that, definitely not so good of a video and I'm not a fan of this concept, randomly going over hands 2 years later...
It's against durrr so what? It doesnt make it a good vid.

Come on Ansky! Some of your previous vids were much more interesting than this, you can do it!

Posted almost 2 years ago

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pretty strange to see people hating on the vid cause its 2 years old. While 6 max vids from 2 years ago tend to not be very relevant, durrr should prove to be the exception.

first vid that I know of vs durrr(townsend played him for 5 hands one time that doesn't count). durrr is an excellent opponent to have in a video because every mistake you make is going to magnified and durrr may even make you realize you had leaks you didn't know you had if you think through hands thoroughly enough.

If someone gave me access to a ft account with 2 million and I can't cash out, I can only play till the 2 million is gone in an effort to get better I probably play 10% vs ivey, 50% vs durrr and rest vs galfond and a few others cause thats how I would imrove the most.

Since I don't have that access or enough money/ego of my own to be taking shots at durrr this is the best I'll get.

Posted almost 2 years ago

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On the A77cc board you can't really have AJ to lead though because you would 3 bet pre right? Since tom isn't 4betting and you are opening up your value range to adjust to him calling so much.
This being said, if you take the more standard line of checking flop are you ever CRing an ace?
Does CRing have any merit? or does it just open you up to a whole lot of guessing as with leading?

If you CC will tom always put you on an ace?
you cant have many medium pairs since you would 3 bet pre, same with many combos of King's because the big ones you would 3 bet and small ones you are just folding pre oop.



I don't think I'd c/r an ace very often, the only real merit to that would be if it induced floats/bluffs from Tom.

I can probably have AJ here sometimes flatting preflop. Vs someone not 4b that often you are right, I would frequently just 3b, but AJ is a pretty good hand to sometimes flat with.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Ansky

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Regarding the AA hand.

I think this is a pretty tough hand. It is definitely possible that if I jam here I am not even 50% when called, as he can have A LOT of better hands, and this isnt exactly a likely hero call spot from Qx/Tx. With that said its fucking durrr and he could call with anything... c/c would make some sense of river if there were enough hands he could turn into a bluff, but I don't know that there are. Exactly missed clubs, and maybe j9 stuff? I don't know, I don't think thats enough to c/c. I think if I checked river I would c/f.

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Ansky: When you look over these hands was there any '08 things that either of you did that would not happen now?

Of the misplayed hands - what was happening? Was it technical mistakes or the fact you were shottaking vs durrrr? How much better prepared would you be now vs durrr '08? Has the fact that he is playing those stakes soo much since mean that his game has moved past where you can profitably shottake if you are not nosebleed regular?



Mostly technical mistakes, simply just "i played this incorrect because of xyz" I was a little nervous for about 20 minutes then I didn't really think about the money I just played poker.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Ansky

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Really nice video.

On the KK hand. That's not a c/r on the turn but a b/3b from durrrr.

So do you think if he donks bet instead of c/rs Poke Tongue

Thank you for the vids ansky !



I don't really know what you are talking about.

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Mostly technical mistakes, simply just "i played this incorrect because of xyz" I was a little nervous for about 20 minutes then I didn't really think about the money I just played poker.



I wasnt referring to the money - but rather is playing continuously in these games important. Do you think that the gap in skill grows because the games play differently to 25/50 or 50/100 and these guys by playing each other more often are getting technically better?

Posted almost 2 years ago

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AA hand:
- What about a turn c/r ?
- Is he expecting you to barrel light on that turn ? And was he calling flops light in 3bet pots on such a board ?
- What hands would you possible c/c on that river (if any..) ?

Thanks a lot, good video!

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Time Link to 00:05:16

would you fold bottom pair on a two tone board without a bdfd significantly more often than raising and turning it into a bluff?
Isn't having bottom pair in a spot where you can't stand a turn barrel a good spot for you to balance your flop raise bluffing range?

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Time Link to 00:30:52

I think vs a player like durrrr folding is better than calling, but shoving is probably better than folding here.
He pretty much always has a thin value bet in this instance. He's alot less likely to have TJ because presumably he would be Cbetting alot of air on this board, however YOU can have TJ as well as 33, 22 and you have a blocker to his A2 should he have it.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Ansky

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I wasnt referring to the money - but rather is playing continuously in these games important. Do you think that the gap in skill grows because the games play differently to 25/50 or 50/100 and these guys by playing each other more often are getting technically better?



No and for this reason I think that Jungleman is favored in the Durrr challenge. Durrr playing really high stakes heads up NL games every now and then is not better "practice" than jungleman playing 10/20 - 50/1 HU for the last 2 years.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Ansky

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AA hand:
- What about a turn c/r ?
- Is he expecting you to barrel light on that turn ? And was he calling flops light in 3bet pots on such a board ?
- What hands would you possible c/c on that river (if any..) ?

Thanks a lot, good video!




C/r is not a bad idea at all especially given how many terrible rivers there are, and how beneficial it would be to get most of the money in now.

Yes, and yes.

AA wouldnt be a terrible hand to c/c with, but maaaaybe something a little stronger would be better.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Ansky

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would you fold bottom pair on a two tone board without a bdfd significantly more often than raising and turning it into a bluff?
Isn't having bottom pair in a spot where you can't stand a turn barrel a good spot for you to balance your flop raise bluffing range?



Yes, you are correct.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Ansky

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I think vs a player like durrrr folding is better than calling, but shoving is probably better than folding here.
He pretty much always has a thin value bet in this instance. He's alot less likely to have TJ because presumably he would be Cbetting alot of air on this board, however YOU can have TJ as well as 33, 22 and you have a blocker to his A2 should he have it.



I think shoving would be disastrous here. First of all, a decent % of his value raising range on the river is stuff that is NEVER folding (KK,JT), and then it's a question whether or not he'd even fold a hand like KQ, which he might not because I am representing such a narrow value range.

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Thanks for the responses Ansky.

Good work as usual.

Posted almost 2 years ago

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I don't think I'd c/r an ace very often, the only real merit to that would be if it induced floats/bluffs from Tom.

I can probably have AJ here sometimes flatting preflop. Vs someone not 4b that often you are right, I would frequently just 3b, but AJ is a pretty good hand to sometimes flat with.



What leads you to flat a hand like AJo sometimes?
Allows you to have a stronger CRing range for value on the flop?
I mean you can CR TPTK often?
Or is it the fact that tom is a barrel monkey and you want to have some stronger hands to call down with?

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Great responses , really interesting video. I love the format as it really shows your thought process Smile

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Just wanted to say that I don't give a shit if this video is of hands from two years ago, I think it's still very relevant. You elucidate your thought process very well and you express very clearly what your mistakes are and how not to make them, I think that's very valuable. For the most part the spots in this video are standard and are great learning tools for anyone trying to get into HU imo. You're a very good teacher.

Posted almost 2 years ago

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I'm pretty sure today's HU $0.5/1 regs are way way better than these guys two years ago.

Posted almost 2 years ago

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I'm pretty sure today's HU $0.5/1 regs are way way better than these guys two years ago.



Well you are definitely wrong, and if you'd like I'll play a .5/1 reg and promise to 4b really big, donk hands with no equity sometimes, and occasionally represent no hand when bluffing.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Ansky

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What leads you to flat a hand like AJo sometimes?
Allows you to have a stronger CRing range for value on the flop?
I mean you can CR TPTK often?
Or is it the fact that tom is a barrel monkey and you want to have some stronger hands to call down with?



All of those, and also the fact that it is a very hard hand to play if you get 4b.

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Well you are definitely wrong, and if you'd like I'll play a .5/1 reg and promise to 4b really big, donk hands with no equity sometimes, and occasionally represent no hand when bluffing.



hahaha owned

Posted almost 2 years ago

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hahaha owned



Was not trying to insult him or anything. I think that 2/4 regs of today would beat 25/50 nl from like 4 years ago, but not .5/1 regs vs me and durrr 2 years ago...

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Good video, I really enjoyed it. Looking forward to the rest.

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Was not trying to insult him or anything. I think that 2/4 regs of today would beat 25/50 nl from like 4 years ago, but not .5/1 regs vs me and durrr 2 years ago...




Man . I don't think you share my sense of humour Poke Tongue Great vids anyway!

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Man . I don't think you share my sense of humour Poke Tongue Great vids anyway!



Lol... Did you really think the way you wrote it would make it come off as if you were simply poking fun? Also, in my opinion, this is a great concept for a video series.

Posted almost 2 years ago

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this is fantastic and well narrated!

thanks dani

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Lol... Did you really think the way you wrote it would make it come off as if you were simply poking fun? Also, in my opinion, this is a great concept for a video series.



Yes I did. Anyone who really thinks that some nl100 regs are better than Ansky or durrr are.. well.. I thought this was so obvious that I find it ridicÃÂșlous to try to explain. Maybe it wasn't obvious then, my bad.

Please also note "way way better". That should make the sentence clearly sarcastic if nothing else does.

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Was not trying to insult him or anything. I think that 2/4 regs of today would beat 25/50 nl from like 4 years ago, but not .5/1 regs vs me and durrr 2 years ago...




Communication break down , its always the same!!!
i've been listening to too much led zepplin today Smile

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Time Link to 00:35:24

Hi, I m new here and this is my first video. I am a highstakes heads up regular. Not sure if this is the place to discus hands, but here are my thoughts.
I dont like both of your lines! The instructor already said why he dislikes his own line, but he forgets to analize Toms play here.
I dont understand why he is calling these big bets with his flushdraw, he doesnt have any showdown value or the right pot odds, so he has to fold or produce some fold equity by raising or betting...his line just doesnt make sense to me!?!?

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Time Link to 00:32:19

Ansky,

With A8 on AQ3r-2-K when durrrr raises your river lead. You say it's pretty much impossible for him to get to the river without showdown value, therefore he must be value raising. You enumerated all the hands in your range for leading turn then leading river ... stuff like 45, JT, A3/A2, 33 ... my question is, don't you think his actual value raising range is extremely narrow? He probably bets JT on flop 3/4 of the time at least? His raising range seems to be just like K3/KQ. Don't you think a 3b bluff would be a pretty sweet from your spot given all this?

Posted almost 2 years ago

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Time Link to 00:35:20

Balance does not mean being able to have every hand in your range with every action. It does not mean that you have to have a bluff in every spot or a middle value range in every spot.


Ansky: What's your definition of balance?

Posted almost 2 years ago

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this is so terrrrrible. how can you all say that its awesome? with that kind of plays ansky wouldnt beat today`s midstakes. I dont even think that I should back up what I am saying. I mean,it should seem so obvious to any good player that this is baaaaaaaaaaaad. 08 poker rox lol

Posted over 1 year ago

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Do you think its good? I mean, this video is just bad play all the way with super standard analysis(its ok but really nothing useful for someone who plays hu)

Posted over 1 year ago

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i def c/c AA hand river, think he turns near everything into a bluff on this

Posted about 1 year ago

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Time Link to 00:18:01

great point! not cbetting against opponents that love to c/r flops because your hand is too good to get pushed out of the hand.

Posted 4 months ago



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