Poker Video: Pot-Limit Omaha by DJ Sensei (Mid Stakes)

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your audience wants to see the hand played out!

Nice vid BTW!

Couldn't make a timeline, but the minute 8-18:00 hand where we turn the nut blocker flush (AcA35 on 9cTc47c), making it $100 leaves $290 in the pot and $301 in our stack.

Shouldn't we be making it like $104 so the pot would be $298 and we'll have $297 in our stack? Also $100 as a round number is just weeeird.

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Word! I feel so dumb when a shorty stack commits me and shows me a freeroll with superior redraw or even just a crappy two-pair to my overpair ...

Time Link to 00:13:14

On behalf of Orestto (why $100 even?)

Couldn't make a timeline, but the minute 8-18:00 hand where we turn the nut blocker flush (AcA35 on 9cTc47c), making it $100 leaves $290 in the pot and $301 in our stack.

Shouldn't we be making it like $104 so the pot would be $298 and we'll have $297 in our stack? Also $100 as a round number is just weeeird.

Time Link to 00:21:35

So rule out higher frushes in Virrain's range? No FE pray to try to bet him off a J high or 9 high, which fits the frop with a combo rundown type hand?

So rule out higher frushes in Virrain's range? No FE pray to try to bet him off a J high or 9 high, which fits the frop with a combo rundown type hand?

We don't rule them out, we just opt to pot control because they make somewhat of a smaller part of his range. We probably don't have FE to get him off of a J or 9 high flush as we will definitely be getting looked up lighter in a spot where we were barreling with what was obviously a non-nut draw.

Word! I feel so dumb when a shorty stack commits me and shows me a freeroll with superior redraw or even just a crappy two-pair to my overpair ...

If you take nothing else from this series I hope you always look at peoples stack sizes before making any decision.

In their infinite compassion and wisdom I think the coaches are trying to get us out of the results oriented mindset aka tilt mindset

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Nice video. First couple of hands the length of the discussion was a little to long for me. I love the non-showdown style. Really was a eye-opener for my own stupid result-oriented thinking that i have sometimes.

riiight onwards..

i think the non sd style is terrible. 12 minut descussion on a single hand where a turnraise is made repping nutlfl, without showing the rest of the hand is bizarr. this given i completely realize non resultoriented approach. Obv the makers dont surf porn online the ending is kinda nice stuff.

oh well, i just dont like these vids at all. i might be totally wrong here, but the discussions seem more proper for 5kplo (wich maybe Sensei plays, i dunno). Balancing, he might think that i think ab bulding up for a potsize shove.. is this ment for 100, 200plo on stars/ft? Its just not how it works as i see it. Again, i might be way off here; i cant tell. Play some live sessions midstakes, use the 30 minut discussions, show the hands.. and onwards

Balancing, he might think that i think ab bulding up for a potsize shove.. is this ment for 100, 200plo on stars/ft? Its just not how it works as i see it. Again, i might be way off here; i cant tell.

You aren't necessarily wrong, but you seem to be overemphasizing the stakes as opposed to the particular opponents. There are certainly strong players at 100 or 200 PLO who are capable of making the sort of sophisticated reads we talk about, and there are weaker players at 5k PLO who aren't. Its more important to know and adjust to your particular opponents than to make sweeping generalizations about the players at a given stakes.

That being said, I haven't played 100 or 200 PLO very much at all, so if I'm suggesting lines that simply aren't the best choice for those stakes, I'd be happy to hear why. Hopefully Kevin corrects me when I do that!

Also, with regards to that specific example (raising turn with the naked Ace): even if they aren't good enough to recognize that we're setting up the pot for a river shove, it still works out just fine. Either they shove the turn and we can easily fold, or they call and then check-fold the river so we win even more $!

FWIW, I'm finding at least 90% of the material applicable to FTP Rush 25 PLO. It does require some adjustment/dumbing down sometimes, but I guess I'm used to doing that from vids, books, coaching, etc.

Typically what we are suggesting is what I would perceive to be the most optimal lines vs. your average quality villain in a vacuum. We haven't really discussed specific reads which is where your play would deviate. I think that if you are playing with people on some regular basis, you do need to balance certain plays. Flop play and certain common turn/river bluffs that come up a lot should be balanced against regs if you plan on playing vs. them a reasonable amount of the time. I don't worry too much about balancing certain frequency related spots vs. regs until I think they may be aware of the style of game I play, at which point I shift gears vs. them.

Further to the point, the purpose of this series was never to explain how to play a specific hand in a specific spot. The purpose was to help newer players build a framework to their thought process so that they can adjust and make intelligent decisions at the table that reflect changing villain dynamics, stack sizes, and tendencies. That was what I envisioned people getting out of the series. Sort of a give a man a fish/teach him to fish quandary. I feel like if you can understand the difficult concepts we lay out, it should be much easier to take the exploitable lines vs. fishy players. If you are playing vs. a reg and you need to find the chinks in his armor, I'd hope this series has given you the tools to start thinking about his unbalanced spots. Similarly if you feel like a reg is beating up on you good and you don't want to just leave the table (which is fine) I want you to have the tools to adjust your play to become tougher, less exploitable, and hopefully plug your own leaks.

As a case in point as to why this stuff is valid at PLO100 and not just PLO5k: I play PLO100, and I am not the best PLO100 player. I am flattered you think that our discussion is on such a high level and I sincerely hope you can find ways to apply it to your own game.

I'm just finishing up the series now and watched this episode during my lunch break today. Here's what I don't understand about the minute ~8-18 hands where we have the Aces with the NF blocker.

You talk about betting smaller on the turn so you can set up a potsize bet on the river and maximize river FE with the larger bet and that this is better because with a larger bet on the turn our river betsize may be small enough such that our villain feels compelled to call with his Q and K-high flushes because of the price he'll be getting.

I only play PLO25 atm and perhaps it's not an issue vs. the majority of players even at a higher limit, but this doesn't seem to be balanced right. If we actually had the nut flush on the turn, wouldn't we want to bet larger on the turn so that he did call our smaller bet on the river with his Q/K-high flush?

And maybe this is just something I don't understand about betting the river (I haven't watched those episodes yet), but if we have the nuts on the river, won't a potsize bet there (which we set up with the smaller bet on the turn) just blast him off even the Q and K-high flush? If we're bluffing to do just that, where's the balance for when we actually have the nut flush and want to get called?

It seems like you want it both ways with this hand.

From an unbalanced perspective (which should be optimal at lower stakes, and even at small-mid stakes for the most part) we want to maximize FE when we're bluffing and maximize value when we're valuebetting. These probably take different forms: when we're bluffing, we want a big river bet to blow him off smaller flushes, and when we're valuebetting we want to set him up to feel like he has to call it off because the price is good (the "installment plan").

If we were to try and balance our lines, then we should size our bets somewhere in the middle (turn bet = river bet, relative to pot) and try to make sure our frequencies aren't unbalanced either.

Overall great video!

I just finished watching this episode and this is by far the best one I've seen so far. The hands in the second half of the video are very applicable to situations I have been facing. I am learning a lot from this series, make another one please! Good luck, Yojimgari