Poker Video: No Limit Hold 'Em by tubasteve (Micro/Small Stakes)

I'm afraid we can't tell you what "Whack 'em!" means, you just have to experience it at the tables. Good video so far, I really like this series and it's fun watching WhiteHeat's progress

What WiltonTilt says at 36:30 min mark is pure genius...seems so elementary now but something I haven't really paid attention to earlier. Anyone who wants to better their game when facing a flop cbet check it out.

What WiltonTilt says at 36:30 min mark is pure genius...seems so elementary now but something I haven't really paid attention to earlier. Anyone who wants to better their game when facing a flop cbet check it out.

you'd be surprised how many guys at mid and high stakes nl don't get that concept. I see examples of it almost everyday when I play. it occurs a lot at heads up too when they check behind the flop.

Classic example, tag opens A5o from the button and another tag calls from the blind. Flop is A 7 2r check, then button decides he's going to really get tricky and check his ace back! muahaha he will never catch on! oh wait... it should be totally obvious that he has something here because A72r is like the best board ever to cbet. So when he doesn't cbet it...

don't be fooled!

Awesome as always guys, I really can't get enough.

Speaking of betting the A72 flop with A5 for value, I listen to the Cash Plays podcast on PokerRoad, and this week he brings up almost this exact scenario (A6o!) in a high stakes live hand where he checks back the flop IP to gain value whereas he says villain would otherwise always fold the flop to a bet.

Your logic makes perfect sense against good, thinking players et al, but what if the opponent is a complete fish and operating heavily on just the first level. Or perhaps he's very weak/tight fit or fold post-flop. Does the "muahaha, he will never catch on. /me twists mustache" line have more value in that spot occasionally, or are you just pretty much always betting there?

If not, what kinds of players are you looking to take that line against sometimes?

Thanks, you are teh manz!

Awesome as always guys, I really can't get enough.

Speaking of betting the A72 flop with A5 for value, I listen to the Cash Plays podcast on PokerRoad, and this week he brings up almost this exact scenario (A6o!) in a high stakes live hand where he checks back the flop IP to gain value whereas he says villain would otherwise always fold the flop to a bet.

Your logic makes perfect sense against good, thinking players et al, but what if the opponent is a complete fish and operating heavily on just the first level. Or perhaps he's very weak/tight fit or fold post-flop. Does the "muahaha, he will never catch on. /me twists mustache" line have more value in that spot occasionally, or are you just pretty much always betting there?

If not, what kinds of players are you looking to take that line against sometimes?

Thanks, you are teh manz!

Good question xerocat. I think the play (checking back Ax on the flop) has merit vs the unaware and dumb/aggros... it's just that we (and now you guys!) are no longer unaware!

but also consider this... how many times have you cbet your QJ on that board only to be called by 44 or similar ? Pretty much always right? Also when you move up into the mid/higher games, people think they are tricksy by checkraise bluffing these types of dry boards. so now when you check you deny them the chance to try and bluff you with a big flop checkraise or call you light on the flop. the best way to represent air or a weak hand imo is to bet the flop and then check the turn like you're giving up, which also lets you get some value from weak made hands on the flop where you're always in a way ahead/way behind spot. the funny thing is some of these very guys end up calling the flop with a weak made hand and making a dumb value bet (or bluff?? we dont know and neither do they) by betting the river with a hand like 44.

certainly though, if you're playing against a guy you know who is dumb aggro and will just pounce on any sort of weakness for 2 big streets, or mistakenly value bet something like 7x when you check behind the A72, or who will fold everything but top pair+ to a flop c-bet, checking there has merit... like every non-standard play/thought process i've recommended in the series, we have to know who we're dealing with and play accordingly.

Your friend,
Tubasteve

(see ep4 thread for those of you who dont get it)

best series ever imo

best comment ever imo

Your friend,
Tubasteve

haha, I really lol'd on this, and got some funny looks at that. Really being punished for that one

I've been a member for about 2 months now and have been watching alot of these videos. I've really enjoy them and I am learning alot. In fact, I just had my first profitible week in 3 months. The going has been rough. The concept of 3 betting light is completely new to me and I'm trying to add it to my game. What I would like to know is how to defend against it. I've definitely noticed players at my tables that like to 3 bet alot with 2 limpers or a raiser / caller and I'm sure that they are 3 betting it light from the button or blinds. I don't want to fold! Should I 4 bet or call? I'm playing 50NL on Full Tilt.

Thanks,

docfreddc

I've been a member for about 2 months now and have been watching alot of these videos. I've really enjoy them and I am learning alot. In fact, I just had my first profitible week in 3 months. The going has been rough. The concept of 3 betting light is completely new to me and I'm trying to add it to my game. What I would like to know is how to defend against it. I've definitely noticed players at my tables that like to 3 bet alot with 2 limpers or a raiser / caller and I'm sure that they are 3 betting it light from the button or blinds. I don't want to fold! Should I 4 bet or call? I'm playing 50NL on Full Tilt.

Thanks,

docfreddc

Hi doc, I can understand your frustrations with 3bet situations. Even my mid and high stakes nl students have problems in these spots because it's the toughest part of the game these days... unfortunately your question is so broad that it's kind of like asking "how do i play poker?" I don't blame you though because I know how tough it can be to get adjusted to the extra aggression as well as finding spots to add that into your own game.

Let me give you a few quick thoughts.

a) when a guy is 3betting you over and over, be inclined to give him more and more credit for each subsequent 3bet he makes on you (in general). If he's a tag in your games, chances are he realizes you're about to get frustrated with him because of a recent succession of 3bets so each extra 3bet is less and less likely to be light.

b) when you know a guy is capable of 3betting you light (either from history or datamine) and it's early in the session, be more inclined to play back at him the first time he does it. The mantra "well it's the first time he's done it so i'll give him credit..." is generally not correct against guys who you know are aggro and taking advantage of the weak. usually for these guys the first time is light.

c) if you want to 4bet bluff, be more inclined to do it when you're oop and more inclined to call in position and make some sort of move postflop. 4bet bluffing is not a very big part of my 6max strategy, but when I do 4bet for bluff or value it's small, say i open to 3bb, he makes it 10bb, i make it 24bb either for bluff or value.

d) don't be afraid to just fold. Although some of the regs might be exploiting you, if they are better than you it's often better to give up and get exploited in small pot then tangle with a player better than you in a big pot (esp if you think he has reason to feel you're getting frustrated).

Hope that helps a little... keep watching videos and take notes on the different ranges we're giving to players when we're in a 3bet pot.

Aaron

Hi doc, I can understand your frustrations with 3bet situations. Even my mid and high stakes nl students have problems in these spots because it's the toughest part of the game these days... unfortunately your question is so broad that it's kind of like asking "how do i play poker?" I don't blame you though because I know how tough it can be to get adjusted to the extra aggression as well as finding spots to add that into your own game.

Let me give you a few quick thoughts.

a) when a guy is 3betting you over and over, be inclined to give him more and more credit for each subsequent 3bet he makes on you (in general). If he's a tag in your games, chances are he realizes you're about to get frustrated with him because of a recent succession of 3bets so each extra 3bet is less and less likely to be light.

b) when you know a guy is capable of 3betting you light (either from history or datamine) and it's early in the session, be more inclined to play back at him the first time he does it. The mantra "well it's the first time he's done it so i'll give him credit..." is generally not correct against guys who you know are aggro and taking advantage of the weak. usually for these guys the first time is light.

c) if you want to 4bet bluff, be more inclined to do it when you're oop and more inclined to call in position and make some sort of move postflop. 4bet bluffing is not a very big part of my 6max strategy, but when I do 4bet for bluff or value it's small, say i open to 3bb, he makes it 10bb, i make it 24bb either for bluff or value.

d) don't be afraid to just fold. Although some of the regs might be exploiting you, if they are better than you it's often better to give up and get exploited in small pot then tangle with a player better than you in a big pot (esp if you think he has reason to feel you're getting frustrated).

Hope that helps a little... keep watching videos and take notes on the different ranges we're giving to players when we're in a 3bet pot.

Aaron

Wilt,

might be a stupid suggestion and I might be totally off, but a thing that really helped me to learn in 3bet pots was playing Headsup. I think all 6max players would benefit from it. I believe my hand reading got lots better (not hard starting from zero ) and also I am forced to play a lot of 3bet pots in position, when I decide to defend with calling and not by 4betting, and also OOP when I reraise some junk and villain is kind enough to call so we can tangle.
I am by no means great or even slightly good, but HU helped me lots so might want to advocate that to some of your students to cover 3bet pots?
what's your take on this?

Good video

How did you write that thing on the table? "the proffesioal etc etc" I would like that on my tables too hehe cuz it sounds good when I really run bad

thanks

Also, who do you play at FTP if you are in Australia? Can't you play on Euro sites that are softer?

I play a bit on party as well, and some eurolinx (but the software tilts me).

Did 3 days ago

Thanks

cheers

Will make sure I do it tonight, been hammered at work.

This video stops at 11:00. I can't go past that mark either.

Download the MP4 version instead of streaming; it's most likely that your browser isn't downloading the full version for some reason when you try to stream.

Rob