Season Premiere
Season Premiere
Entity and PygmyHero return for a second season of Real Life Microlimit Grinder. They tackle more advanced concepts and formulate a plan for moving further up the limit hold'em ladder in this first episode.
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This Series: Real Life: Microlimit Grinder Part Deux
Entity moves on to the next element of success in 6-max Limit Hold'em with his protege PygmyHero: super shorthanded play. Watch as they walk through the basic principles of 3-handed and 4-handed play, showing how starting your own games can often be the quickest and most profitable route to complete domination.
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Comments for Season Premiere
- DonkeyOnTilt
- Deuce High
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21 posts
Joined 04/08
Ipod version no worky. I hate to be the ipod video police but thats how I love enjoying my DC. Thanks for the support Rob.
- pvwinkel
- Set of Deuces
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266 posts
Joined 04/08
Oh wow - I couldn't stop laughing at that 66 hand at 8 minutes. How did you find such a soft game at 2/4? lol. This is gonna be a great season for limit holdem... Great to see you two making videos again!
- PygmyHero
- Deuces Full
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598 posts
Joined 08/07
So here's the hand where I time out at ~15:
Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with 9 
9 
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG 3-bets, 1 fold, BB calls
Flop: (8.5 SB) Q 3 6 (2 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, BB calls
Turn: (5.25 BB) 2 
(2 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, BB calls
River: (7.25 BB) 3 
(2 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, BB folds
I'd love to hear some theoretical discussion about what my post flop line should have been if I had: 1) called, or 2) capped.
At ~20:30 Rob mentions a hand where I have KTo. We get involved in a hand at the table and Rob brings it back up at ~23:30. Here's the action for the hand Rob's referring to:
Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit Hold'em - 4 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with T K
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls
Flop: (4.5 SB) 6 4 K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls
Turn: (3.25 BB) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls
River: (7.25 BB) Q (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls
Villain shows me 87
- Entity
- Founder
- Quad Deuces
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1969 posts
Joined 11/06
Ipod version no worky. I hate to be the ipod video police but thats how I love enjoying my DC. Thanks for the support Rob.
Should be fixed now, I've tested it on my iPod and it looks/plays good.
- pvwinkel
- Set of Deuces
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266 posts
Joined 04/08
Pygmy - the 99 hand. Did you want to call or cap?
If you just called, what do you think of raising the flop? And then possibly calling down a 3-bet especially if a club doesn't hit?
If he just calls your raise on the flop, do you have an easy value bet on the river?
Let's say you capped and led out the flop and got check raised, what's your line?
- PygmyHero
- Deuces Full
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598 posts
Joined 08/07
I was debating between the two. It's clear Rob wants me to cap there and I agree with him. At the time I just kind of froze up since the limp/re-raise is such an odd line and I almost never see it. It likely wouldn't have been a problem had we not been recording as I would have felt no need to articulate my thoughts before making my decision.
I think the problem with just calling and raising the flop is I don't know if I'll be able to protect my hand (I don't know if UTG will bet into me, and BB still gets 6:1 if UTG bets and I raise, so BB can still probably draw to overs). So it's probably better to just take the immediate equity edge I get from capping.
If I had raised UTG and he JUST called I would vbet the river brick expecting him to call with all his A high hands.
If I cap pre and get c/r-ed on the flop I often show down since the board's not scary, I may still have the best hand, my flush draw is often live, at the river the pot's big to fold for a single bet, and I'm just generally confused/curious about he LRR (expect to see AK and hands like T9s a lot).
- DonkeyOnTilt
- Deuce High
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21 posts
Joined 04/08
Should be fixed now, I've tested it on my iPod and it looks/plays good.
Ha its me again. When you try to DL this one you get Real life micro NL grinder pt 1. Sick of me yet?
- DeathDonkey
- Founder
- Quad Deuces
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1777 posts
Joined 11/06
Ha its me again. When you try to DL this one you get Real life micro NL grinder pt 1. Sick of me yet?
Oops, try now :)
-DeathDonkey
- pvwinkel
- Set of Deuces
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266 posts
Joined 04/08
Limp reraisers - when fishy short stacks limp reraise I find it's not always huge hands. A lot of times they seem to just get pissed off that you're iso-raising them when they limp every pot and they decide to just play back at you randomly lol.
I think I like a CAP pf and the board really isn't that scary considering the 2 biggest bricks ever on the turn and river so I think the line you planned would have been real good. Please don't time out next time!! :)
- Cactus Jack
- Deuces Full
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501 posts
Joined 05/07
Glad you guys are back.
What a sweet table.
- Entity
- Founder
- Quad Deuces
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1969 posts
Joined 11/06
What a sweet table.
You ain't seen nothin' yet.
- VJunks
- Deuce High
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17 posts
Joined 02/08
First of all I would like to mention that I have just found Pokerstove, and therefore I am quite into different kinds of equity calculation.
In the book "Winning In Tough Hold'em Games" by Stoxtrader, it is suggested that to 3-bet a raise from SB one would need roughly 50% equity against raiser's range. So, let us then consider the hand QJo in the small blind (~13 min). If the button has in this situation a range around 40%, then equity with QJo is only 47%. So, it would seem that this is not enough. (QJo has about 50% equity gainst a range of 50% of hands.) There are, of course, some other factors to consider in this situation. So, I would like to know what factors should be considered in this situation and is this 3-bet actually so clear. (The button doesn't even appear to be very aggressive. So, his range doesn't actually need to be even as wide as 40%. Maybe?)
Similar situtation also arises with A5o in the SB around ~25 minutes. (Here you actually mention that the 3-bet is at least quite close.)
Also, is there something fundametally wrong in the statement picked from the Stox's book?