Jason Ho already solved this game didnt u hear?
DJ Sensei and CeeGee go at 2 tables of $1/2 cap PLO.
DJ Sensei takes on a new student, CeeGee, to take him to the heights of Cap PLO.
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Jason Ho already solved this game didnt u hear?
yesssss love the intro
Time Link to 00:17:13
Do you think there is any merit to checking back here so that we don't get raised off of our 6 nut outs? We were the pre-flop raiser, so I think it's entirely feasible that either player could be going for a check-raise.
Time Link to 00:55:24
I understand the argument for 3-betting the J874 double-suited, but I don't understand why we would want to call an open OOP with it. With two gaps in the top and bottom of our hand, and weak flush draws, it seems like we're setting ourselves up to play non-nut marginal hands out of position.
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Warning: Holy tl;dr and equity calcs, batman.
I ran a bunch of equity calculations that seem to support calling as the best pre-flop choice in almost all of the ways this could have went pre-flop. I'm curious as to what feedback others would have on the data.
HU vs the 63/31 player over 16 hands:
Since he's 63/31 so far, I think we can assume his range for 3-betting is wider than AA.
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
KdJdQh9h 39.53% (236,512 wins, 1,383 ties)
AA** 60.47% (362,105 wins, 1,383 ties)
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
1,086,008 trials (Exhaustive)
KdJdQh9h 46.49% (504,834 wins, 0 ties)
AcAh2d7s 53.51% (581,174 wins, 0 ties)
Seems like any AA hand makes decent money if we get it in HU, so I would opt for flatting and getting away if we don't hit a piece.
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
KdJdQh9h 42.71% (250,414 wins, 11,671 ties)
10% 57.29% (337,915 wins, 11,671 ties)
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
KdJdQh9h 45.61% (266,313 wins, 14,660 ties)
15% 54.39% (319,027 wins, 14,660 ties)
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
KdJdQh9h 47.80% (279,449 wins, 14,700 ties)
20% 52.20% (305,851 wins, 14,700 ties)
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
KdJdQh9h 49.22% (288,038 wins, 14,604 ties)
25% 50.78% (297,358 wins, 14,604 ties)
And expanding it to various maniacal-looking ranges seems to have us reliably below 50% equity as well.
Getting it in vs the 63/30 and the cold caller.
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
KdJdQh9h 30.69% (183,202 wins, 1,840 ties)
AA** 42.57% (254,296 wins, 2,201 ties)
T987 26.75% (159,529 wins, 1,905 ties)
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
KdJdQh9h 34.49% (206,228 wins, 1,430 ties)
AA** 39.67% (236,651 wins, 2,707 ties)
9876 25.84% (154,414 wins, 1,277 ties)
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
KdJdQh9h 35.74% (213,570 wins, 1,682 ties)
AA** 33.27% (197,730 wins, 3,742 ties)
8765 31.00% (184,958 wins, 2,060 ties)
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
KdJdQh9h 36.92% (220,655 wins, 1,680 ties)
AA** 31.41% (186,469 wins, 4,003 ties)
7654 31.67% (188,873 wins, 2,323 ties)
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
KdJdQh9h 37.95% (226,803 wins, 1,780 ties)
AA** 31.45% (186,559 wins, 4,235 ties)
6543 30.61% (182,403 wins, 2,455 ties)
Vs AA and a medium rundown, we start making considerable money if he has 7653 or worse, but anything higher and we basically get it in without any real advantage or even lose money.
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
KdJdQh9h 32.29% (185,709 wins, 16,271 ties)
20% 33.78% (194,843 wins, 15,825 ties)
20% 33.93% (195,711 wins, 15,858 ties)
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
KdJdQh9h 33.44% (192,403 wins, 16,679 ties)
20% 34.52% (199,391 wins, 15,549 ties)
30% 32.04% (184,811 wins, 15,014 ties)
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
KdJdQh9h 34.10% (196,241 wins, 16,834 ties)
20% 34.94% (202,019 wins, 15,346 ties)
40% 30.97% (178,861 wins, 14,018 ties)
If we widen the 60/30 guy's 3b range to 20% and give the other player ranges he may cold call with to try and stack AA, it seems like we have no equity advantage getting it in, which is a waste for a hand so pretty.
Lastly, the 3-bet and cold 4-bet scenario:
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
KdJdQh9h 38.51% (230,039 wins, 2,062 ties)
AA** 30.77% (95,852 wins, 177,510 ties)
AA** 30.72% (95,610 wins, 177,433 ties)
It's very nice if both villains have AA.
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
KdJdQh9h 29.46% (173,093 wins, 7,311 ties)
AA** 51.66% (309,056 wins, 1,838 ties)
KK** 18.88% (109,638 wins, 7,318 ties)
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
KdJdQh9h 29.84% (173,940 wins, 10,221 ties)
AA** 47.35% (272,654 wins, 22,909 ties)
10% 22.81% (121,108 wins, 31,540 ties)
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
KdJdQh9h 30.44% (177,308 wins, 10,749 ties)
AA** 46.79% (275,145 wins, 11,195 ties)
20% 22.77% (126,467 wins, 20,317 ties)
But seems to lose money otherwise. Maybe worth shipping it in this spot due to the frequency of both players having AA giving how the action went.
Sorry if this is a bit excessive. I'm asking because I'm trying to transcend my huge nittery and work looser and more aggro play into my game, but I don't feel comfortable doing it if I don't fully understand how those plays work and why they are the best option.
Do you think there is any merit to checking back here so that we don't get raised off of our 6 nut outs? We were the pre-flop raiser, so I think it's entirely feasible that either player could be going for a check-raise.
Nah I'd rather try and take down the pot on the flop. We don't really want to see a turn card, and because its a low board we'll just win the pot right away most of the time. If we get c/c-ed, we can play pretty well on the later skreets.
I understand the argument for 3-betting the J874 double-suited, but I don't understand why we would want to call an open OOP with it. With two gaps in the top and bottom of our hand, and weak flush draws, it seems like we're setting ourselves up to play non-nut marginal hands out of position.
Well if we're guaranteed to get a HU pot its not as bad to have non-nut hands. Its not an awesome hand, but its got enough going for it that I don't mind calling against most opponents.
love the intro!
Thanks for the responses.
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