Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by tubasteve (Micro/Small Stakes)

Audio in the streaming version is all messed up for me.

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weird. fwiw i just listened to some of the wmv version and it sounds fine.

Now nobody interrupts Tuba's strain of thought! Do I sense a certain amount of competition and Tuba being on a check/call mode...

Seriously, good video again, I am getting good stuff from this series. Would be great to see a section on shortstacks, sort of cliff-notes on stack sizes, when to call, raise etc against them, given odds etc - what you can and can't do.

weird. fwiw i just listened to some of the wmv version and it sounds fine.

there's a bit before halfway where your sound is breaking off/static but only few seconds, not a biggie.

there's a bit before halfway where your sound is breaking off/static but only few seconds, not a biggie.

We've been noticing this in our Skype calls; I don't think there's anything we can do about them. Both of us have DC-approved headsets and solid internet connections, so I'm not really sure what the deal is with those skips.

Am watching it right now. On the AK stuff, I'm not sure I agree completely. Isn't it very player dependant? Against certain players I'm snapfolding AK against a 3-bet, because they only 3-bet AA, KK and maybe QQ.

Now against a light 3-bettor, would it be better to just shove over a 3-bet or 4-bet/call shove with 100bb?

The flashing video goes into fast forward at about the 12:45 mark and continues to the end for me. Tried on two different browsers and tried the other vid posted today which works fine, so I don't think it is a PC problem. Any suggestions?

The flashing video goes into fast forward at about the 12:45 mark and continues to the end for me. Tried on two different browsers and tried the other vid posted today which works fine, so I don't think it is a PC problem. Any suggestions?

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The flashing video goes into fast forward at about the 12:45 mark and continues to the end for me. Tried on two different browsers and tried the other vid posted today which works fine, so I don't think it is a PC problem. Any suggestions?

Same for me.

Am watching it right now. On the AK stuff, I'm not sure I agree completely. Isn't it very player dependant? Against certain players I'm snapfolding AK against a 3-bet, because they only 3-bet AA, KK and maybe QQ.

Now against a light 3-bettor, would it be better to just shove over a 3-bet or 4-bet/call shove with 100bb?

the thing is, almost everyone 3-bets more than these hands. you'd have to have a 3-bet % of 1.4 to be only reraising AA/KK/QQ preflop.

to answer your other question, generally the action will go like this in terms of BB:

3.5->12->27

1:04.23

Hero: JJ 3bet pot you smooth call

Board: A Q 3 2 tone, if the board came all unders and was 2 tone and the villian cbet, what would you do? Are you getting it all in or putting him on a QQs+ range. AA,KK,QQ,AQ,AK type of range you are behind.

Thoughts

The flashing video goes into fast forward at about the 12:45 mark and continues to the end for me. Tried on two different browsers and tried the other vid posted today which works fine, so I don't think it is a PC problem. Any suggestions?

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weird. fwiw i just listened to some of the wmv version and it sounds fine.

I'm almost done with the .wmv version and there's maybe 4 or 5 places where the audio gets choppy for about 5-10 seconds. I've watched with both VLC and WMP to make sure it's not a problem with a specific player, and it happens in both of them.

I am working to fix the streaming/mp4 vid, sorry about the delay. I will post once the new file is available.

-Rusty

I'm having problems as well. This is with the *.mp4 version using Linux/Mplayer... around 13 minutes in the video goes silent and doesn't recover. The flash version fails as described in previous posts.

I'm at work right now, so I won't have access to an M$Win box until I get home... I'll give the *.wmv version a shot later on tonight.

solid video guys

On the Q9 hand, do you guys really want to felt that? I think that's a really eazy turn fold, sure villain could be going out of line but most of the time his range crushes us.

i have question about AK,

this guy's 4bet was a little larger than standart 3bet (he minraised), so u suggest 4bet shove w/ AK? i normally dont shove over 3bet even w/ QQ+, how could i balance my 4bet range? 4betting AK a little bit larger than QQ+ to maximize FE or instashove AA-KK over 3bet sometimes?

I have uploaded a new mp4 to the site, I went through it, should be all good. Thanks for your patience everyone.

-Rusty

yayayayay wooooooooooooo FTGU roolz

Great video. I really like the format of showing a few hands and having the in depth discussion on each hand.

On the Q9 hand, do you guys really want to felt that? I think that's a really eazy turn fold, sure villain could be going out of line but most of the time his range crushes us.

no, we were just saying if we think our opponent is bluffing us a decent % of the time then raising is the worst option.

i have question about AK,

this guy's 4bet was a little larger than standart 3bet (he minraised), so u suggest 4bet shove w/ AK? i normally dont shove over 3bet even w/ QQ+, how could i balance my 4bet range? 4betting AK a little bit larger than QQ+ to maximize FE or instashove AA-KK over 3bet sometimes?

i dont think you need to worry about balancing your range here...no one is paying attention at the micros to your 4-bet ranges and frequencies.

but regardless of balance i would probably also shove QQ and occasionally AA/KK, although with those i think making a smaller 4-bet is better to make sure you get some action

I'm almost done with the .wmv version and there's maybe 4 or 5 places where the audio gets choppy for about 5-10 seconds. I've watched with both VLC and WMP to make sure it's not a problem with a specific player, and it happens in both of them.

this is just a typical skype problem that occurs when the connection is mediocre or when im running like 20 applications on my computer, which i was donig for this video. (skype, teamviewer, powerpoint, firefox, HEM, pokerstove, etc...)

hopefully the super-size vid will make up for a few seconds of audio dropouts

All the videos and poker books say that suited connectors play better multi-way, but I've never seen an explanation as to why.

If someone could point me toward a book or article concerning the theoretical ins and outs of multi way vs. heads up type hands I would really appreciate it.

Thanks,

Steve

I think the answer to this question is pretty simple, and I am sure it has been printed and said in books or videos: Your implied odds are much greater if you hit hard with suited connectors in a multi-way pot. Also, if it is multi way you might get the right price to chase your draw; if it is heads-up the odds of drawing to your monster might not be very good.
HU you only can win maximum the money you bet or call + the dead money already in the pot basically. Multi-way you have the possibility of collecting dead money from live players throwing in more dead money. At least that is how I see it in a simplistic way.
I also think that a lot of people make a lot of mistakes in multi way pots, because they are getting such a good price, and the pot is very big they overplay their hands and make big effort to win a hand that they should not be in anymore.

That explanation does a nice job of expanding on the minimalist few paragraphs in "Hold'em Poker for Advanced Players". Makes sense.

Thanks

the thing is, almost everyone 3-bets more than these hands. you'd have to have a 3-bet % of 1.4 to be only reraising AA/KK/QQ preflop.

Is this actually true? I know AA/KK/QQ make up for 1.4% of possible hands. But does HEM/PT3 calculate like that too?
It sounds to me that HEM/PT3 only increases/decreases the 3bet% when you actually have the chance to 3bet, so when someone opens in front of you.

If that's the case, 1.4% isn't right. Lets say you only open AA/KK/QQ, then yes, you're PFR will be 1.4, but when you only 3bet those hands, and you only get the chance to 3bet half of the time (cause otherwise it's just a PFR), the 3bet stat will be 2.8

If HEM/PT3 doesn't calculate like that, then please correct me. I'm not sure which of 2 it is.

Great video guys! Keep it coming!

Great video guys! Keep it coming!

how would you rate it on a scale of 1 to WHACK EM???

in all seriousness, thanks and we plan to.

Im new to Holdem manager,and i was wondering is there any chance of importing the HUD layout for this series into your own HEM?? or can you import a hud layout at all?

enjoying the series btw looking forward to the rest.

Im new to Holdem manager,and i was wondering is there any chance of importing the HUD layout for this series into your own HEM?? or can you import a hud layout at all?

enjoying the series btw looking forward to the rest.

Yes you can as long as author shares his layouts.

First close down Holdem Manager before importing or exporting. Then simply copy the files below to export them, from the path location below:

C:\Program Files\RVG Software\Holdem Manager\Config\

PosPref.txt
PosPref2.txt
prefs.xml
StatRanges.xml

And also any files that end in .pop which are your popup files


And then paste them into the same folder on the applicable drive/computer to import them. Remember to backup those files before importing. Just copy those files to a location you can retrieve them from if you need them at a later stage.

It sounds to me that HEM/PT3 only increases/decreases the 3bet% when you actually have the chance to 3bet, so when someone opens in front of you.

Correct. 3-bet % = (Total Times 3-Bet / Total 3-Bet Opportunities) * 100

If that's the case, 1.4% isn't right. Lets say you only open AA/KK/QQ, then yes, you're PFR will be 1.4, but when you only 3bet those hands, and you only get the chance to 3bet half of the time (cause otherwise it's just a PFR), the 3bet stat will be 2.8

The problem with your reasoning here is that you are trying to use a number of 3-bet opportunities only for this specific range of QQ+, instead of a TOTAL number of opportunities. Look at it this way, 3-bet % is basically the probability that you'Å•e holding cards from your 3-betting range when an opportunity to 3-bet arises. Say, you get N chances to 3-bet, what is the probability of holding QQ+? 1.4%, regardless of whether N is 10, 100, or 500000. In fact, N only affects how accurate the 3-bet % stat will be. The bigger the sample - the more accurate the stat.

Hi.
Iv'e played poker for 2 years but still have learned a lot from this serie so thx a bunch guys.
How ever i there is one thing here i followed today while playing and found wasnt really that acurate imo.

In the hand sent in by a member when he had Q9o on the button and board comes 2Q7 rainbow he bet turn 2 and the other player donk full pot in to him u say it was incorect to reraise all in, at some times i think thats true but not as a rule in similar hands.
I did like you said when i had 79 spades on the button and had isolated this loose bluffy player, about 175bbs deep
Me 79spades button him 8Jo
F 4s7c3c he donk call rr
T 10s he donk full pot i call
R 9d he all in i call

Sure bad beats happen but if i had reraised him all in on turn he had probably folded, if not he had been big underdog to win instead of me shipping in 45 when i'm beat, and even if he had a two pair or set i had outs.
Would really apreciate to hear your thoughts on this?

Again thx for all great stuff you thought me about board textures c-bets ecpecially

Good Video! Nowheremans video was choppy in a bunch of places in the streaming video don't know about the downloadable version

Great content in this video, but the audio quality gets annoying after a while. tubasteve is quite low compared to n0whereman, and n0wheremans audio becomes really choppy every once in a while. Watching the .WMV version FYI.

Another question about AK:

It's clear that folding against a 3bet is wrong. But what about if we are the 3better ourself? Are we gonna fold against a 4better who is complety unknown? Or is this an easy call/shove?

I really like how much detail this episode gets into on pre-flop play which is where the most important decisions take place. This series has made me realize what people mean when they say poker is a game of situations and not numbers. Starting to breaking out of ABC poker feels pretty good too.

The sound disappeared around 49' min in the IPod version.

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great video. I have a few questions about this JJ hand.
I find myself in such a spots rather often.
How would you play if all small cards flops and OP cbets?
How would you play if all small cards flops and OP checks?
What if Qxx/Kxx flop comes and OP cbets?

great video. I have a few questions about this JJ hand.
I find myself in such a spots rather often.
How would you play if all small cards flops and OP cbets?
How would you play if all small cards flops and OP checks?
What if Qxx/Kxx flop comes and OP cbets?

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You videos are great. Watching 1 at a day and playing micro stakes and it's going great for me. Thanks

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One important thing to note is that we have 38% equity here not to be mistaken with 'we win the hand 38% of the time' If we look at pokerstove for the really tight 3betting range of [AK, QQ+] it looks like:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.824% 18.14% 20.68% 78295380 89232168.00 { AKo }
Hand 1: 61.176% 40.50% 20.68% 174740892 89232168.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }

So we actually win the hand only 18.14% of the time, and the ties make up the rest of our equity share. If we do the math to see how often villain needs to fold for shoving against this range to be profitable:

Current Pot = 4.5+2.5+0.25+0.25 = 7.5
Effective Stacks: 10.15

EV(ignoring rake) = F%(7.5) + (1-F%)(Win%*(7.5 + 10.15) - Lose%(10.15) +Tie%*(0))

EV = F%(7.5) + (1-F%)(0.1814*(17.65) - 0.6118(10.15) + 0)
0 = F%(7.5) + (1-F%)(3.20-6.21) = F%(7.5) + (1-F%)(-3.01)
F% = 3.01/(7.5+3.01) = 28.6%

So (if I did the math right) we need villain to fold hands in the range of [AK, QQ+] to a 4bet shove 28.6% of the time for it to be EV neutral (ignoring rake). That seems pretty unlikely that villain will fold hands in that range ~28% of the time. So, if we really think villain's 3betting range is that tight 4bet shoving is probably going to be a mistake.

Once we widen that range I definitely agree that shoving makes more sense.

Just realized this equation here is wrong:

EV(ignoring rake) = F%(7.5) + (1-F%)(Win%*(7.5 + 10.15) - Lose%(10.15) +Tie%*(0))

Because when we tie we win half the pot, not zero. It should be:

EV(ignoring rake) = F%(7.5) + (1-F%)(Win%*(7.5 + 10.15) - Lose%(10.15) +Tie%*(7.5/2))
EV = F%(7.5) + (1-F%)(0.1814*(17.65) - 0.6118(10.15) + 0.2068(3.75))
0 = F%(7.5) + (1-F%)(3.20-6.21+0.78) = F%(7.5) + (1-F%)(-2.23)
F% = 2.23/(7.5+2.23) = 22.9%

So villain would need to fold about 23% of the time for the shove to be profitable...

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Could you define what you mean by your opponant 3betting you alot? I understand the concept, but to give an example, in a session I played recently, the BB 3bet my opening BTN raises on 3 consecutive hands. I had been playing around 21/19 over aprox 60 hands, and he had been about the same. My steal % was low during this time also. Should I consider this being played back at, or give hime credit for a heater? In general, is 3 orbits too small a sample to base this particular read on?

Time Link to 00:36:04

when your playing out of position with a suited A wouldn't it be more profitable to limp, so that if you flop a flush draw you have more implied odds?

Realy wanted to say thanks to you both, Im a starting poker player and once read a book. I feel im getting more confident in playing TAG and see that instead of losing $ my graph is rising faster than it went down before. After the postflop video Im losing less and win more by not Cbetting 100% as I used to but playing with a bit of a brain looking at the stats of my aponants and think about what there range is. Im making money folding more often and putting more value on my winning hands. Im not all done with the series and see that in this video some hands played are not for me yet but Im sure they will be at some point.

Thanks!