what resolution is this
whatever cant wait to see it.
thanks
Vanessa Selbst continues her live play sessions oF mid-stakes PLO, four tabling this time.
PLO WSOP bracelet winner, Vanessa Selbst, brings you all you need to know about Mid-Stakes PLO in this series. From playing non-nut draws, to monsters, to the importance of position; start your bracelet quest right now!
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what resolution is this
whatever cant wait to see it.
thanks
So, when you 4-bet with a rundown hand (as you did with the 89TJ), is it a snapcall if they come over the top?
Thank you again Vanessa.
It was a little harder for me to concentrance on this episode as it was somewhat disordered. The heads up table in the beginning didn't really fit in.
I really like it when you are playing these hands and at the same time explaining your thinking process(es)
. This week your voiceover didn't relate too much what actually happened on the tables, but rather on some other hands/situations. That is of course interesting, but made it harder for me to actually watch what was happening on the tables. So I hope you can consider this fact in the future episodes.
In the hand where you c/r bluff the QJ9r flop in a 3bet pot, do you really think Wazz's play is bad? There's a tiny bet and a call, and he probably knows you are an aggressive/competent player + vs this action, can't you be raising worse (ie sets)?
It feels weird to fold the 2nd nuts when you look very weak vs an aggressive player in a reraised pot~
So, when you 4-bet with a rundown hand (as you did with the 89TJ), is it a snapcall if they come over the top?
Yup. You can't really fold anything preflop getting 2-1 and without much money behind, especially hands like JT98 which are in good shape equity-wise against anything. Now if you for some reason 4-bet with a hand like 227Jr, then yea you should probably fold to a shove. But that would be an awful hand to be involved with in the first place.
Thank you again Vanessa.
It was a little harder for me to concentrance on this episode as it was somewhat disordered. The heads up table in the beginning didn't really fit in.
I really like it when you are playing these hands and at the same time explaining your thinking process(es). This week your voiceover didn't relate too much what actually happened on the tables, but rather on some other hands/situations. That is of course interesting, but made it harder for me to actually watch what was happening on the tables. So I hope you can consider this fact in the future episodes.
Thanks for the input
I agree the HU table didn't really fit in, and I won't be doing that in the future. Next week is going to hopefully be more about what's specifically going on. Thanks for watching anyway!
In the hand where you c/r bluff the QJ9r flop in a 3bet pot, do you really think Wazz's play is bad? There's a tiny bet and a call, and he probably knows you are an aggressive/competent player + vs this action, can't you be raising worse (ie sets)?
It feels weird to fold the 2nd nuts when you look very weak vs an aggressive player in a reraised pot~
Once again, if you guys could fill me in to the action in the hand or at least the timestamp from the video, that would be reallllllllllllllllllly helpful!
Yup. You can't really fold anything preflop getting 2-1 and without much money behind, especially hands like JT98 which are in good shape equity-wise against anything. Now if you for some reason 4-bet with a hand like 227Jr, then yea you should probably fold to a shove. But that would be an awful hand to be involved with in the first place.
The man speaks the truth!
Once again, if you guys could fill me in to the action in the hand or at least the timestamp from the video, that would be reallllllllllllllllllly helpful!
Sorry, you raised a suited ace (ah6h2c5c) from early position, a fish 3bet you on the button, Wazz coldcalled from the SB, you called. The fish bet halfpot, wazz called, you c/r, the fish called, wazz tanked a lil then shoved with T8J7 (rainbow, is that really a coldcall oop?).
It's about 25 minutes in.
Bump~ Would be interested in some more input on this, or just playing 2nd nut type hands in reraised pots in general. I'm guessing if it's HU vs a PF-RR then it's an easy stackoff with the 2nd nuts at least?
What about if Wazz had had a set there, would his stack off be better (because even if he's behind he has a lot of outs)? How should a hand like 2 pair be played in his position (or even 3 pair)?
If you had, say, top set in your position, would you make the same raise you made with air? And if you did, would it be for straight value vs the PFRR or as a semi-bluff to get someone off a 2nd nut straight type hand (and call with worse sets to boat)?
Thanks.
Was this the last episode of the series?
Was this the last episode of the series?
There will be one more, but we had some unfortunate tech problems with it, so it looks like it will have to be re-recorded. We hope to have it up in the next handful of days.
Rob
hey Vanessa, just wanted to thank you for these awesome videos. They have helped my PLO game so much!
hey Vanessa, just wanted to thank you for these awesome videos. They have helped my PLO game so much!
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Still no Ep.9?
Still no Ep.9?
No, we're unfortunately going to have to wait until we can get a new headset (shipped overnight) to Vanessa as it turns out the other one broke, which is the reason behind the bad sound. It'll be worth the wait -- we're definitely sorry about the problems.
Rob
Still no Ep.9?
Any estimates?
I found it difficult to follow the action on 4 tables at once. I think 2 tables is better. There were a few potentially interesting hands where you raised people post-flop with complete air with no explanation at all since you were talking about something else.
Overall I liked the series, but I feel you don't stick to your own rules on hand quality enough. A lot of hands seem really spewey. There's probably some thought behind them, so maybe the series should have an episode on when and when not to bluff?
Bump~ Would be interested in some more input on this, or just playing 2nd nut type hands in reraised pots in general. I'm guessing if it's HU vs a PF-RR then it's an easy stackoff with the 2nd nuts at least?
What about if Wazz had had a set there, would his stack off be better (because even if he's behind he has a lot of outs)? How should a hand like 2 pair be played in his position (or even 3 pair)?
If you had, say, top set in your position, would you make the same raise you made with air? And if you did, would it be for straight value vs the PFRR or as a semi-bluff to get someone off a 2nd nut straight type hand (and call with worse sets to boat)?
Thanks.
I like the way wazzbot played it, with any sort of read on Vanessa as an aggressive rather than tricky-trappy player, which would say that she never checks the nuts on this flop 3-way. Vs a thinking player Vanessa's line makes zero sense and is most likely just raising weakness, hence 2nd nut straight is good, because the button clearly doesn't have it.
Any estimates?
It's producing right now -- hope to have it up later today.
Rob
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