RapidEvolution and his student return to cover a few more topics before we hit the tables, including table selection, online versus live play, and other handy things.
RapidEvolution’s Full Ring Binder covers everything from the Fundamental Theorem of Poker to pot odds and postflop play.
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2st! Looking forward to watching this!!
We actually don't get to the last question in this episode. We do, however, get to it in the beginning of episode three! I was really nitty about time for these and since I have a tendency to just rattle on, I thought it better to hold off ![]()
This is an excellent intro to frnl. Well done.
Rapid, what do you think of the rush poker games? What kind of adjustments do you recommend from a ring game?
Nice intro to frnl for beginners and back to basics for intermediates or better players. Particularly it was interesting the "What can you tell me about them?" part
. It cracked a smile for me when your (Rapid) student tried to talk about them and how we could/should exploit them and where we want them to sit in regards of our seat
.
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I would love to see more of these kinds of math/stat quizzes.
Here are the stats...what do you think?
Reinforces thinking beyond the cards....with math/stats.
Thanks RapidEvolution!
Bazman76, thank you!
l26wang: The rush poker games are different in my experience, but there are definite pros/cons
Pros:
There are lots of features in rush that speak to recreational players (lack of waiting, seeing lots of hand), so the field tends to be a bit weaker.
Obviously, you can 2-table and see about 500 hands/hour (the rough equivalent of 8-tabling normal tables). If you can 4-table and not take a drastic hit to your WR, your hourly can go through the roof and (since it's just 4 tables) you can play on a laptop/small monitor without stacking.
It's much easier for people to fold (and as such) I think there's slightly more FE at rush.
Cons: You REALLY have to stay on top of you mental game. You're making a lot of preflop decisions, and tilt is going to be tons more costly
You miss a lot of showdown info, since you're whisked off after folding
Sometimes the HUD lags behind or you don't have enough time to get all your reads before making decisions...and it's harder to make good preflop adjustments (in my experience)
Overall, I'd probably play on the tighter side and aim for value...mainly because playing looser tends to require more/better reads that will be much tougher to get given how rush works.
Sneakers and Armisan, I'm really glad to hear that that segment was useful! When we get into postflop play, would you guys like something similar? Like...I can give examples of a player's cbet street by street and present different hand types (strong sd/medium sd/draws/nuts/air). It could either be the same way it was done in Ep 2 OR I could just present scenarios in one episode, give people time to think on their own, and then come back in the next episode and give my own suggestions (which you guys can all add to in the thread)
It could either be the same way it was done in Ep 2 OR I could just present scenarios in one episode, give people time to think on their own, and then come back in the next episode and give my own suggestions (which you guys can all add to in the thread)
I think the one where you present different scenarios and give explanations and suggestions on the next one, that way people that are watching will get involved more with the series (you are more likely to remember stuff you thought of it yourself and someone said "I agree with you" then someone said "this is the truth, learn it"). And definitely do something similar for postflop play, that way beginners (and not so beginners) can get into habit of planing their hand`s play postflop.
....When we get into postflop play, would you guys like something similar? Like...I can give examples of a player's cbet street by street and present different hand types (strong sd/medium sd/draws/nuts/air). It could either be the same way it was done in Ep 2 OR I could just present scenarios in one episode, give people time to think on their own, and then come back in the next episode and give my own suggestions (which you guys can all add to in the thread)
Hi RapidEvolution,
I am not really sure how to answer this. I think Armisan's comments are on target. The method you used allows the viewer to "get involved" -- thinking about, planning, predicting the correct answers.
Me? I am just looking for reinforcement of the basics (in videos) that we should all be doing -- especially on the math and stats parts. Yes, we can all redo and redo different series. But I like to see/hear reinforcement by the instructors in videos of a routine analysis (numbers-gymnastics). Practice, practice, practice (reinforcement). ![]()
Thanks for asking. Looking forward to the next episodes.
RE
When I flop 2-pair I seem more likely to get in trouble. On some board textures it seems right to play 2 pair very aggressively. On other textures we are WA/WB and 2 pair is a trouble hand little stronger than top pair especially as we often make 2-pair with a connector making straights/straight draws more likely.
So I'd like to see some 2-pair on the flop examples of how I should play the flop/turn/river on different board textures.
I will try mixing it up! (Maybe two or three examples where I can make suggestions and then 2-3 for "homework" lol. Of course, the problem is that as we get deeper and deeper into the hand, our villain-specific reads matter more and more (and we usually have fewer reads because it's much far less likely that a hand will go to the turn/river than it is to get to the flop.
Quad, it's definitely a tough spot and definitely depends on position, villain, board texture, etc. The best way to deal with those specific scenarios will probably be through HH review (which we'll get to in Episodes 4-6 (or 4-7, depending). I'll make sure that we find some 2pair spots where we face aggression on the flop and/or turn. ![]()
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I really like how u break down the live vs online br considerations, I have never seen it broken down that way b4.
Wow! I'm on my way. My stats are:
Vp 16.4
PFR 11.1
AF 2.99
WTSD 21.7
Does this mean I should just skip these videos???
Wow! I'm on my way. My stats are:
Vp 16.4
PFR 11.1
AF 2.99
WTSD 21.7
Does this mean I should just skip these videos???
That's for you to decide.
I will say, however, that it's possible to have nice-looking numbers and still have a ton of leaks. The best players are the ones who are not only solid theory and application-wise, but are also constantly re-evaluating their game and making adjustments to their own mindsets, metagame, and adjustments other regs are making. I recommend watching as many videos as possible here.
There is a ton of great content on this site and lots to learn from the coaches here.
Will It can't hurt to watch them so I'll keep going. I have been playing for a while.
I'm working on the following:
Bet sizes to maximize my EV post flop with good hands.
I have been studing betting lines and SPR.
Rangeing people post flop.
Knowing if your ahead or behind that range.
3 betting and 4 betting preflop.
Post flop skills.
Reading the board better.
Any videos you think I should watch?
I'm working on my poker game too Poker Student, but I don't need 14 lines of text to say that ![]()
So,
I made a list. whats your point? Looks more like ten lines to me. If you don't like it then don't read it instead of crying about it.
I definitely recommend any full-ring content (i.e., FR Squadron, the fellowship of the ring, twee bets) it's all really good. There's definitely amazing content in the 6m category as well, but some of the concepts may not translate over perfectly. The theory stuff generally does, though. ![]()
I definitely recommend any full-ring content (i.e., FR Squadron, the fellowship of the ring, twee bets) it's all really good. There's definitely amazing content in the 6m category as well, but some of the concepts may not translate over perfectly. The theory stuff generally does, though.
I'm on your 6th video right now. I have also been watching twee bets as well. I posted a ? on your 6th video.
Thanks
I’m new to DC and just started watching this series; just wanted to say really liked the analysis of player stats and adjustments on how to play against certain types of players, really handy for someone new to cash and HUDs.
Cheers
Elz
Good video, I hadn't tought of WTSD % being so informative, especially the relation with VPIP/PFR.
Btw, in the end you said RapidEvolution for twoplustwo, is that a mistake or am I missing something?
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What is the maximum value for each factor?
VPIP/PFR/AF/Fcbet/WtSD
I don't know the maximum value for each factor so I don't know how to compare.
Thanks
What is the maximum value for each factor?
VPIP/PFR/AF/Fcbet/WtSD
I don't know the maximum value for each factor so I don't know how to compare.
Thanks
All of these (with the exception of AF) is a percentage...so the max is 100.
Good video, I hadn't tought of WTSD % being so informative, especially the relation with VPIP/PFR.
Btw, in the end you said RapidEvolution for twoplustwo, is that a mistake or am I missing something?
lol verbal typo.
Time Link to 00:46:41
How many hands both preflop and flop, do you think is needed for the WTSD to converge in full ring ?
When can we start rely on this stat, in your opinion?
How many hands both preflop and flop, do you think is needed for the WTSD to converge in full ring ?
When can we start rely on this stat, in your opinion?
I think you can start to get a feel after 500 hands or so, unless their % is really high (in which case, it'll become clearer faster). Also, you want to look at WTSD in the context of vpip/pfr. I do think, though, that if you're going to use WTSD as a consideration when launching a big bluff, then you want at least 1k hands (and even then, there may not have been a chance for the opponent to make any light calls).
Time Link to 01:03:21
I am often conflicted when given the option to sit on the left side of a really bad player if it means giving a really good player position on me vs. choosing to sit to the left of the good player and giving up position to the bad player. How would you prioritze these choices?
If it's an issue of one seat (say the bad player is in seat 4 and the reg is in seat six), I'd probably take seat 7 and have position on both of them, planning to isolate the bad player with a wide range and 3bet the reg when he iso's the bad player. (I'd pick hands that I could still play for value vs the bad player postflop). If the only other seat is really far (or leaves the fish with good position on you), then by all means, sit to the left of the bad player and print money. ![]()
Time Link to 00:29:01
would the bankroll requirement be different if u are multitabling, for example suppose if i were to play 10NL on 12tables at the same time,do i need a larger than normal bankroll, or is $300 generally going to be okay?
It depends on how comfortable you are, and your overall winrate. Some people have a rule about not having a certain % of their overall bankroll on the table at one time because they're uncomfortable having so much out. I think 30 BI is a good minimum for the micros (My minimum was between 25 and 40 depending on how I was feeling), but if you think you'd need more to feel relaxed, that's fine as well!
Time Link to 00:50:23
Hi,
the agression factor value that we see in HUD are similar to 0.5, 2, 3...4 etc, they are not expressed as purcentage.
AF > 3 means agressif postflop
risk is to take it as agression purcentage or frequency by street...
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