AMT
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Hey guys,
This vid I had a bit of trouble deciding where I wanted to go, and it's just impossible to cover everything that I want to in the way that I want to in the span of just the length of this series. A lot of the concepts that are illustrated here, as I mentioned in the video, are well established in earlier videos leading up to this and a lot of it will just take getting used to transitioning through the levels of SNG play to get a feel for it. As I mentioned in the vid, it's tough to outline a general ITM strategy, as we see so many different scenarios come up...after all, it might not even be push/fold in the money! I figured, since that was the lesser common occurence, that we had the solid foundation for push/fold already and our time might be more well spent discussing spots similar to what occur in the video.
Rest assured, though, that the concepts that you see here, as well as push/fold ITM and HU stuff will be covered after the series as well in future videos, so if you didn't hear everything you wanted to, above and beyond posting here, you'll probably get some more videos about it in the future!
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BrianJensen
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Some comments from the peanut gallery.
1. The first hand with my $600 turn bet, I was trying to maintain some Fold Equity with a river shove bluff. I thought a 2000 shove AI on the river would have some good equity as he was representing a weak hand. Also, which you wouldn't have known this b/c I didn't send the whole HH, Villian had folded to a river shove AI and had shown down A6o and A7o previously which he played the same way as he played this hand. I figured I was good with my AK high.
2. Second Hand, I have no clue why I called with 68o PF. I could have been watching tv or cooking at this moment and not paying much attention. The over-shove on turn was because I had put him on two high cards but no Ace and I thought it may look like a bluff to him (which it did), that's why he called with the KQ. I got lucky and out-flopped him, but that was my reasoning for the shove on turn. As far as my play PF, I have no clue or excuses why. beats me? But a leak could be plugged now...as long as the tv's off.
3. Third hand, I remember this hand! I mis-clicked. Meant to click "Pot" and just hit "Max" and F'd up. I remember sitting there saying "no no no no" until he folded.
4. I suck.
5. Weee!! Didn't get ripped on that hand. I figure even if he does call my turn bet, I do have a 9 to hit for my straight to catch up. If I brick, obviously I'm folding to a bet.
6. I bet the 1200 on the river hoping for it to look like I bricked out on my flush draw and it was a 3-bet bluff so he'd call down with one-pair hands. I do see how I could have gotten a little bit more out of him though.
7. I pretty much decided PF to shove on any flop that didn't look dangerous and didn't contain an Ace. Just so happens that he showed up with KK and had me crushed.
I do see how many leaks I have in my game and bet-sizing, pot control and pre-flop selection are just a few of them. Not to mention flop & turn aggression is a little on the high-side. Thanks AMT, I'm going to watch this over & over to make sure I get the most out of these vids.
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AMT
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Cool Brian, thanks for the reply.
Definitely should've sent me the read for hand #1, would've been relevant!
Actually, it's a shame really that I thought of this so late, but the night before I recorded this, I was thinking how cool of an idea it would be to get you on for the video to make episode 7 like a coaching session recorded similar to how other authors have done late night coaching or something to that effect (I might've already mentioned this in the vid?). If I had thought of it early it probably would've made this vid a whole lot sweeter considering all of the replayer hands were yours... shucks!! Oh well, hope you enjoyed anyways.
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BrianJensen
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I did enjoy the video and wouldn't have minded one bit helping you out with the video. Only thing that it would do is improve my game, and I can't complain about that.
Some of the plays I made, I thought I was being somewhat tricky but now that I see them and you explain them, I realize how absolutely idiotic they are. You won't find me making some of those mistakes again! Thanks for critiqueing my play.
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urinpain
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Time Link to 00:20:50
Don't you think b/f is an option too? If we bet something like ~1k and villain ships, he should have a decent hand, where we should be behind too far, although getting good pot-odds.
Regarding my simulations we are to find a fold.
(including future game aspects we're able to fold too, because we would still have almost 13BB left)
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AMT
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Don't you think b/f is an option too? If we bet something like ~1k and villain ships, he should have a decent hand, where we should be behind too far, although getting good pot-odds.
Regarding my simulations we are to find a fold.
(including future game aspects we're able to fold too, because we would still have almost 13BB left)
Actually yeah, but you really don't get c/shoved on very often here but will get c/c'd by worse some of the time when you bet smaller vs. shove (namely vs his one pair hands <Qx). If he had made a smaller flop bet I'd definitely not shove the turn, but as is I think my comments from the video mainly apply; if you think your fold equity is similar on the turn when you bet 1k vs shoving then go for it but I don't think that it's necessarily the case vs. some randoms and given how the pot is a bit more bloated than we'd like it to be I think shoving is still valid with the Pot:stack ratio and how often he's probably folding. That said, I think b/f when there are no ante's and you will have that workable stack if you get shoved on, and you do believe you have similar FE with a smaller bet vs. a shove if we get here this way, then sure, go for a smaller bet.
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AMT
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What's your reaction if villain bets the turn after you checked it? let's say he bet's about 1/2-2/3 potsize
If we check here it's with the intention of not folding to those bets, IMO. People can still get frisky if they picked up a draw or think you'll fold some random Ax hand now or something, and we still have a fair bit of equity on the turn with our pair + OESD. People just fire a lot of weak bets HU and can do some random stuff so I can't see folding to one turn bet here once we check.
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AMT
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I don't get it why you would push here. I think bet/folding is a way better option here. A bet like ~1k2 won't commit too bad I guess.
Looking again, I agree with this, but I still think you shouldn't find yourself in this spot much AKA should just push pre.
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browndog1986
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HotDiggy1121
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how do you get that heads up chart at the end?
Hey Bro....here is a link to this on holdemresources:
http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sngs/hune.html
I took Excel and made a stack of hand charts and marked them up with a Sharpie with different info. Push/Call charts, Moshman's 10BB and 7BB charts, Super Turbo push ranges, etc. I thought they were easier to work with and I have them posted on the wall in front of my work area for quick reference.
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browndog1986
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HotDiggy1121
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"Push/Call charts, Moshman's 10BB and 7BB charts, Super Turbo push ranges etc"
thanks mate. is this out of his book or is it on the net as well
I was only able to find the Moshman charts in his book. My lack of success finding them online was one of the things that motivated me to create my own charts and just mark them up with a sharpie. The Super Turbo stuff is here:
http://www.super-turbo-poker-tips.com/
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OranRai
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