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Ringside: Bottomset (#9) - 4-tabling 200NL by bottomset

Our resident ringside pro, Bottomset, is back with anoter installment. This week he steps up to the 200NL level and discusses the differences between small and mid stake play.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 54 minutes long
  • Posted almost 3 years ago

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Comments for Ringside: Bottomset (#9) - 4-tabling 200NL

Q_caine

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36 posts
Joined 09/2008

first of all,I only play SH and HU, so I might be wrong with some of my ideas, because I don't have a lot of experience with FR. still have some questions/suggestions:

UR
KJo against fullstack - easy call when he 3bets when you're HU at the table imo
UL 8:00
JJ - you were aware, that the l/reraiser posted his blind? easy ship imo. KK+, maybe QQ I would consider just calling(although in this spot he had you crushed Wink)
BR 12:40
A3o - CO openraise with aggro guy on button and those other guys in the blind i didn't like too much, from the BU it's fine, but stealing Axo from CO with loose BU means just too much trouble imo
UL 22:00
AJo - think with the donk on the turn he is pot committed, and you're right his hand looks pretty weak but he won't fold and I'm not sure if you're ahead often enough(he might even donk Kx because of the 2nd flushdraw)
UR 32:30
QJs - easy fold on the turn, this small betsize tends to be either induction bet or to prepare a river shove where you can't fold a queen any more
BL 34:00
openlimp CO with Q4s - why not just raise it to play the blinds IP? they'll make enough mistakes postflop. if you don't get HU, then just check behind the flop instead of cbetting(same with A7s just a bit later, why not just openraise to keep the initiative?)
UL 39:00
AQ river bluff - i like the bet, against a somewhat reasonable player that is, he l/c pre, and he usually doesn't have too many good Kx hands in his range he might c/c turn considering his stats. the str8 or a set he would vbet the river with himself, everything else folds, so nh(you later said you'd overbet. i don't even think that is necessary, you can't just put him on AK tbh)
UR 43:00
K2s - sick spot, i think you'll be beat way too often considering it's a pretty big overbet on the river, either he has a boat or the nutflush. don't think I could fold it either, though Wink
BR 45:30
A6s - I'd rather like to bet the flop to protect instead of checking through there multiway and call a bet on the turn. don't think he'll bet many worse hands on the flop 5way
BL 46:00
AK - I'd still 3bet it even against 3% pfr, but he is on the button after all and i just don't like playing AK oop when i'm not the preflop aggressor

you also had some betsizing tells in the beginning of the video, you raised HU oop with big pairs smaller than with unpaired cards.

Posted about 3 years ago

bottomset

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168 posts
Joined 02/2007

I'm pretty sure with the betsizing tells it was deliberate, iirc I rr smaller with KK vs a half stack after he folded to my bigger rr, and on other table I iso'd to 4bb instead of 5bb after he l/f to 5bb, just to test out his tendencies, there might be more, but there were a couple deliberate spots

JJ hand, no I didn't realize he had posted, so I def agree with a shove with that info, I guess lucky I missed that since he did have KK

I'll get to the rest when I have a chance to watch the video again, and can look at the spots

Posted about 3 years ago

Constantin

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124 posts
Joined 09/2008



JJ hand, no I didn't realize he had posted, so I def agree with a shove with that info, I guess lucky I missed that since he did have KK



You would of turned a set and he would of rivered a flush. Pretty nasty spot (that's not even including the guy that could of called and turned a flush himself).

Posted about 3 years ago

Relentless

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2 posts
Joined 08/2008

you didnt seem to notice but Victor-chen typed "TY" before he called your shove with your set and he had the nut flush. totally classless, but board paired and you won, haha.

Posted about 3 years ago

AlexB182

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29 posts
Joined 06/2008

download version completely out of sync for me and streaming version is sound only. No clue what's going on there, fwiw I only very very rarely have problems with watching DC vids...

Posted about 3 years ago

jessyj

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108 posts
Joined 06/2008

you didnt seem to notice but Victor-chen typed "TY" before he called your shove with your set and he had the nut flush. totally classless, but board paired and you won, haha.


Poetic justice. Very happy to see the board pair after that.

Posted about 3 years ago

Joe Tall

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Joined 11/2006

download version completely out of sync for me and streaming version is sound only. No clue what's going on there, fwiw I only very very rarely have problems with watching DC vids...



I downloaded the .mp4 version and it worked fine.

We recommend downloading the VLC player: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ to watch our videos.

Posted about 3 years ago

Entity

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Joined 11/2006

download version completely out of sync for me and streaming version is sound only. No clue what's going on there, fwiw I only very very rarely have problems with watching DC vids...


For the streaming version I'd make sure you have the latest version of Flash installed and an updated browser -- it's playing both video+sound for me on a few different computers/setups.

http://www.adobe.com/flashplayer

thanks,
Rob

Posted about 3 years ago

bottomset

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168 posts
Joined 02/2007

you didnt seem to notice but Victor-chen typed "TY" before he called your shove with your set and he had the nut flush. totally classless, but board paired and you won, haha.



lol no I totally missed that, oh well ppl are dbags, nice to see them run bad

I will get to the rest of the comments on Sun night or Monday when Im back home, I'm pretty interested in seeing some of these hands again after there has been some time to get rid of immediate results orientation that often plagues me on hands I lose

Posted about 3 years ago

QuadDeuces

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930 posts
Joined 09/2008

I learnt a lot from this vid because it had quite a few tricky spots where villains check-raised flops, donked Turns and generally played like the NL25 randoms I see everyday!

How about a vid analysing HEM hands where you explain what stats/tendencies and flop textures you look for to decide what to do against donk bets and CBet check raises or whether to CBet at all? I find certain Villains with high check/raise flop stats quite tricky to play against and I often check the flop and fire a delayed CBet on the turn instead.

Posted about 3 years ago

ehunter

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151 posts
Joined 03/2008

you should probably watch some HU vids.

Posted about 3 years ago

QuadDeuces

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930 posts
Joined 09/2008

you should probably watch some HU vids.



I have watched some HU vids and I've played some HU but I find the dynamic different in FR. Maybe Blind vs Blind is closest to HU play. But when seeing a typical FR flop HU, starting requirements are tighter and the play is different to pure HU in ways that I find quite tricky.

Maybe the range is much broader. Some opponents are as loose as pure HU while others have much tighter FR requirements for 3Bet, donk or C/R. Others vary their looseness by opponent so your observations have to be filtered because they may stack off with TP against one Villain but need a set for another Villain. Ditto by table opening position of course. I find this much more of a tricky puzzle than pure HU.

Actually, this is why I prefer FR to either 6-max or HU. There seems much more variety and subtlety.

Posted about 3 years ago

comura

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48 posts
Joined 01/2008

Josh I liked the video and tbh I give you credit for posting it, you obviously weren't thrilled with some of your decisions, so it would have been quite easy to fire up another session and put this one behind you.
It was good to see a much better player than myself have a session that contained a couple less than optimal spots.


With the AQ hand, I think your image was a big rough after the AJ bluff shove, it wasn't that long ago & this villain was at the table so in this spot I doubt he folds to an overbet river, but who knows.

Posted about 3 years ago



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