Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by threads13 (Micro/Small Stakes)

Liked the video, how many tables do you usually play when multi-tabling FR?

You talked about how to take advantage of someone who folds to 3bets too much or 4bet/folds too much or calls 3bets OOP too much.

But what about the reverse? How do you best defend against someone who is 3betting IP too much (other than leave the table)?

Liked the video, how many tables do you usually play when multi-tabling FR?

I generally play between 8 and 14 tables. However, I will often take an hour session to just do a 4-tabling session because it is nice to slow things down so that you can think about things more deeply.

You talked about how to take advantage of someone who folds to 3bets too much or 4bet/folds too much or calls 3bets OOP too much.

But what about the reverse? How do you best defend against someone who is 3betting IP too much (other than leave the table)?

Well, most people at these stakes will not 3-bet "too much" IP. However, if there is somebody that is playing this way and you have a good reason to stay at the table then there are a couple adjustments to make.

- Tighten up your CO/HJ opening range
- Increase your 4-bet value betting range and add in a few 4-bet bluffs
- You can also even start calling OOP if you have a read that this play is going to do this and then auto c-bet most flops. The idea here is a little more advanced, but you are just looking for a little chunk of equity to go with your massive FE(GS's/FD's/etc.). It is very important to have your reads here though before you start trying to play in 3-bet pots OOP with the intention to steal. That could end in disaster if you aren't careful.

Also, it's important to make sure that you balance your strategies. You may decide that this guy who is 3-betting light never 5-bet shoves as a bluff(this is a common scenario), but he will often fire at any flop in position. It makes more sense to get trappy and call with your big hands in that case. It's still ok to 4-bet bluff some, but you have to be careful. When you take value hands out of your 4-betting range you can end up WAY out of balance very easily.

The video had almost no difficult/interesting spots at all (I'm not sure it had any tbh). This is why 6 tabling is better. I like your style though, please do another soon with some tough spots.

The video had almost no difficult/interesting spots at all (I'm not sure it had any tbh). This is why 6 tabling is better. I like your style though, please do another soon with some tough spots.

yeah thats what I thought also but I really enjoyed listening to his thoughts and commentary.

good stuff on the 3bettting and 4bettting aspects and Vs those shorties.

@35min ish you had 78hh and there was a EP raise and about 5 callers and u insta folded in sb i think, is that standard for you?

Lots of familiar faces in this video; this is my main game. Pretty atrocious tables, I'd have left all of them the first orbit, but I'm a table selecting fiend.

Please turn on "Display Bet Amounts" in future videos on Stars. Even if you don't play with it turned on, at least turn it on when you make videos, it makes it a lot easier to follow the action.

Also it's helpful when coaches explain what their HUD stats are. The first line is pretty easy to figure out, but I have no idea what the stats on the other two lines are.

You said that you open suited connectors/gappers occasionally from early position and said that one reason is to balance/widen your range, but that it was not the main reason. What is the main reason?

You said that you open suited connectors/gappers occasionally from early position and said that one reason is to balance/widen your range, but that it was not the main reason. What is the main reason?

I like to do this if there's a lot of tight players that like to setmine behind. They usually just fold to c-bets when they don't flop a set, but if they do then suited connectors (usually cards around his small-mid pair) are going to have a lot better equity than AK or a big pair.

yeah thats what I thought also but I really enjoyed listening to his thoughts and commentary.

good stuff on the 3bettting and 4bettting aspects and Vs those shorties.

@35min ish you had 78hh and there was a EP raise and about 5 callers and u insta folded in sb i think, is that standard for you?

I believe you mean the 9h8h where a 33bb stack raised a limper in EP. I actually am ok with the fold here given the stack sizes. He is a loose player, so I am not getting a ton of implied odds from him in general and he also has a short stack which is going to decrease my implied odds as well. Also, since there are all the callers in there I am not going to have a bunch of steal equity postflop. I wouldn't argue with a call a whole bunch though.

Lots of familiar faces in this video; this is my main game. Pretty atrocious tables, I'd have left all of them the first orbit, but I'm a table selecting fiend.

Please turn on "Display Bet Amounts" in future videos on Stars. Even if you don't play with it turned on, at least turn it on when you make videos, it makes it a lot easier to follow the action.

Also it's helpful when coaches explain what their HUD stats are. The first line is pretty easy to figure out, but I have no idea what the stats on the other two lines are.

You said that you open suited connectors/gappers occasionally from early position and said that one reason is to balance/widen your range, but that it was not the main reason. What is the main reason?

I'm huge on table selection as well. However, for the video I'm fine with just firing it up and seeing what sort of spots I get myself into.

Thanks a lot for the suggestions! Keep them coming! I absolutely want all the constructive criticism I can get so that I put out some videos that help you guys out as much as possible.

I like to raise SC hands because I feel that they really play great in games like this because people often give my c-bets plenty of credit they often flop hands with equity. The fact that they are suited often gives them some extra equity postflop that really makes them play well against tight players because I will be able to barrel more liberally if I have some backup equity. However, I don't like raising them all the time because I feel that I will be raising too much in EP if I do this. That is why I use the random number generator in these spots.



Here's my stat layout for future reference:

VPIP/PFR/AF/Hands
Flop CB/Turn CB/Fold to flop CB/Limp-call/DB Flop
(BB Fold vs Steal)/Steal/3-bet/Fold to 3-bet/Squeeze

The Limp-call stat is the percentage that a player calls a raise after limping.

The BB Fold vs Steal isn't actually in this video, but should appear in future videos.

Really liked your video, and the way you explain your thoughts.

Where do you get your icons in the drop down for HEM when you marked a player as a fish at 28:30 ish and also the random number generator?

Hiii threads,


I've been waiting for your series eagerly.

I would like to see vids of you multi-tabling 14 tables NL100. I'm currently playing NL5 FR on stars 20 tables. My objective will be to climbed up NL100 by the end of the year. So a multi tabling series on your part will really help me a lot.

Take care

first hand AK donkbet big on the flop, c/r is bad imo

first hand AK donkbet big on the flop, c/r is bad imo

Yeah, I can agree with that. When I watched video yesterday I thought the same thing. I feel that flop may get checked back too much.

Threads,

Where did you get your RNG from?

Threads,

Where did you get your RNG from?

Sounded Simple wrote it and gave me the script. I'm working on getting it uploaded to my site soon and I'll post a link here once I get that up there. I'd expect it up there in the next day or so.

Sounded Simple wrote it and gave me the script. I'm working on getting it uploaded to my site soon and I'll post a link here once I get that up there. I'd expect it up there in the next day or so.

Here's a link to the post on my site where you can download the script.

http://threads13.com/?p=119

Threads,

Where did you get your RNG from?

Note you can do the same thing really easily in an Excel file:

Type (Office 2007):

=RANDBETWEEN(0,100)

in any cell. Now simply change the contents of any other cell in the spreadsheet and the RANDBETWEEN will display a new random number between 0 and 100. By sizing the spreadsheet to just two cells you achieve the same as Threads' script.

32:00 TT You cbet on a JJ7 board and get raised by an unknown random half-stacker. You pretty much instafolded. You said that he wouldn't raise anything that we beat. To me it felt like a bad player raising the flop with a pocket pair(88,99)putting you on AK and protecting their hand from overs.

If he is a good player and flatted QQ-AA then he wouldn't raise the flop because the two jacks would scare away all hand that he wants to get value from (i.e. your TT). Most players would flat the flop with a jack unless they are leveling here which I don't we can give the half-stacker credit for.

The range of hands that you are behind on this flop is pretty small(AA-JJ,77,AJ,KJ,QJ,JT) and with the half-stack I would have probably gone with it.

30:06 You fold AQ on the button Vs opener an 2 callers. Please explain why a call or squeeze would be bad here?

32:00 TT You cbet on a JJ7 board and get raised by an unknown random half-stacker. You pretty much instafolded. You said that he wouldn't raise anything that we beat. To me it felt like a bad player raising the flop with a pocket pair(88,99)putting you on AK and protecting their hand from overs.

If he is a good player and flatted QQ-AA then he wouldn't raise the flop because the two jacks would scare away all hand that he wants to get value from (i.e. your TT). Most players would flat the flop with a jack unless they are leveling here which I don't we can give the half-stacker credit for.

The range of hands that you are behind on this flop is pretty small(AA-JJ,77,AJ,KJ,QJ,JT) and with the half-stack I would have probably gone with it.

Yeah, I don't like the way I played this hand at all! To me, the most important fact is stack size and the fact the the flop is JJ7 as compared to J77. The SPR is about 5 which is low enough to commit with in this spot.

30:06 You fold AQ on the button Vs opener an 2 callers. Please explain why a call or squeeze would be bad here?

That's definitely a standard call for me. I'm not sure why I folded it to tell ya the truth! It probably had something to do with my brain was in a mode of explaining something so I didn't put any critical thought into it.

I think a squeeze is really bad given our hole cards, we have him at a 13/8 at the time, and he raised in EP. We can consider squeezing here some small percentage of the time as he will tend to give our raise a ton of credit and fold a lot of better hands, but I wouldn't do it with a hand like AQ that has some good postflop equity and position.

Nice video! A few things tho..

For some reason I can't see the bet sizes because theres a black backround or something..

Also it seems like you were really passive postflop.. I was watching alot of videos by bottomset and Nolan and I would guess they would play much more aggresive then you postflop. When you bet fold to a minreraise like that on the turn maybe you could consider making your bet a bit stronger so its not as easy for someone to roll right over the top of yah?

why did you fold the TT in min. 32? on a JJ7 flop are so few hands which beat TT. he could raise your cbet with any pocket or just bluff any two since you have air most the time on this flop. so i would definitely call there and also call further bets.

sorry to ask an an off topic question, but where do i get that stats program which shows all those numbers beside players? someone please help

sorry to ask an an off topic question, but where do i get that stats program which shows all those numbers beside players? someone please help

You have to buy Holdem Manager (HEM)

https://www.deucescracked.com/hem_promo


-Millman

Time Link to 00:11:57

Table 4: Would that have been a good spot to squeeze those players based on their HUD stats and being LP with nits behind?

Table 4: Would that have been a good spot to squeeze those players based on their HUD stats and being LP with nits behind?

It's ok, but not great. The open was from MP and from a nit that I have 1k hands on. If he plays exception tight to 3-bets (say he folds 70% or more) it is probably ok, but otherwise I thinking mucking is fine.

Time Link to 00:38:24

Would you hate a min-raise here with tight players to your left and a chance to play this hand IP?

Would you hate a min-raise here with tight players to your left and a chance to play this hand IP?

I think opening to 4 there should be fine. Looking back at that now, that's pretty tight of me to not iso there.

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Do you still think calling is best here?

30:06 You fold AQ on the button Vs opener an 2 callers. Please explain why a call or squeeze would be bad here?

That's definitely a standard call for me. I'm not sure why I folded it to tell ya the truth! It probably had something to do with my brain was in a mode of explaining something so I didn't put any critical thought into it.

I think a squeeze is really bad given our hole cards, we have him at a 13/8 at the time, and he raised in EP. We can consider squeezing here some small percentage of the time as he will tend to give our raise a ton of credit and fold a lot of better hands, but I wouldn't do it with a hand like AQ that has some good postflop equity and position.

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Funny how times change things. Looking at it now, it looks like a 3-bet for value vs the overly loose player.