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Some tough spots like that 88 pretty sick fold. Can you make 6max vids too?
It's probably the first thing you tried, but HUD options; 'relaunch HUD' tends to make stuff happen.
Haven't quite finished the video yet but it's really useful. Your fundamentals are so solid, and I found it pretty impressive that you didn't over-react to getting 3 bet so much, even though it's small stakes for you. Not over-using the HUD probably helps you as you don't suffer from my patented 'ZOMG 20% 3-bet over 40 hands: time to 4bet junk' disease.
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Welcome back Nolan! Where's the scum bag luck box comment in chat after he gets that queen? I've graduated to a successful 18/14/(6-8) style thanks to your videos.
Where's the vid rungoot, bro? Welcome back! When u gonna make that PLO vid u promised?
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not raising bigger here i think is super criminal. the guys got an awkward stack so hes prob not a reg and your hand is the virtual nuts against everything in his range but flush draws. The guy looks you up with J3.. he would have easily called a monster sized raise with an ace or any 2pair/set.
hey pet,
i agree there's some merit to raising more. however, i wanted to leave room to fold to a shove and also entice calls from the weaker aspects of his range. i'd have to respectfully disagree that raising bigger is the best play in the long run.
You folded 44 from the BB against an 2,35x UTG open from nachoace. Is this your default play even if the openraise is so small?
against a person who's likely to be a regular, yes.
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Top left table, Time Link 31:30
(somehow I deleted the time link when I edited, oops.)
You have AhKd, Flop is Kc2h4h, You Check HU OOP to theCurv, "making it look like you have QQ or JJ". Turn is 9, River is T.
Would you double barrel here with 77-TT (if you think PP's are likely to float) or do you think a good reg Villain should fold PP's on the flop to your CBet since they expect you to double barrel this spot? Basically, I'm asking what should I do here with 77-TT (double barrel?) and what should I do here if I was the IP Villain with say, TT (Fold flop) both cases vs solid reg.
If you'd be expected to double barrel with bluffs and PP's except QQ,JJ and some AK's shouldn't IP Villain check behind your Flop check or else double barrel to rep AK since your Flop check looks suspiciously like QQ,JJ and you are never folding flop? That is, isn't theCurv's Flop one-and-done bad, especially his timing tell on Turn (quick check back as if he's done with the hand)?
If Curv had three barrelled you in this spot, would you fold River as his hand looks like set 99 or TT?
Also, just noticed theCurv took a long time pre-flop as if he was either wondering whether to 3B (QQ,JJ) or wondering whether to fold (99-TT). This contrasts with his Turn click back. Does this observation change your River action to a value bet or are you still OK with the River check?
hey pet,
i agree there's some merit to raising more. however, i wanted to leave room to fold to a shove and also entice calls from the weaker aspects of his range. i'd have to respectfully disagree that raising bigger is the best play in the long run.
with all metagame or balance issues aside assuming this is a 1/2 fr unknown you've never played with and most likely wont play with again, what does your raise sizing and SPR after your raise have to do with whether or not you are leaving room to fold to a shove. I dont have nearly the experience you do but I would assume that the chances of him bet/3betting the river as a bluff are basically zero, and if you think he is bet/3betting with worse hands enough for you to call if you had like 20:1 pot odds or whatever on the river, isnt there more merit for raising bigger then?
thanks again for responses
great video
when mossified84 3bets you at about 1:10, you say that you don't think there's any other option other than to 4bet and that flatting QQ oop there is not good, I dont see why flatting the 3bet oop is bad against someone with a 2% 3bet and you are likely to be behind or flipping when stacking off? what would you do with 99-JJ there?
pet,
i think we get him to fold some of his range if we raise bigger and force him to have the more nut non flush hands. he's a total random i can't expect him to be snapping huge raises with top pair like he may to smaller ones.
chicken,
if positions were earlier there would be merit to just calling. i need to have a 4b bluff range against a regular in this spot, and even if his 3b is 2% i can assure you bluffs are still a large part of his range there. this should be obvious as you see his 3b later in the video. playing QQ oop to regs in 3b spots in this situation will usually result in you getting outplayed often as it's very unlikely he's checking back any A high flops and he sometimes has JJ which he is likely never folding pf etc. etc.
Quad,
what to do with 77-TT and such there is extremely dependent on the player. it's a complete read spot and there's no solid one-off advice for that type of thing. depends on how often people float / call barrels / bluff / etc.
Hi Nolan! Great to see you back making videos!
I watched you and other FR vids a lot over a year ago but now it seems I'm very out of touch with the game. I'm hoping you can help me with a few spots I had trouble with and hope I don't need help in too many!
edit - oh no, I used incorrect format for the timelinks. Apologies for this. Frown
http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/7281-Nolan-5-200NL?seek=422 TT. I'm very surprised you can fold TT here to this single flop bet. We're well ahead of his range aren't we?"He knows I don't have any sets here so he's probably going to barel here a lot of the time". I take it you can have 55 and 33 PF? You're never check-calling (slowplaying) flop with these here? Even if not, I can't fold this flop and against a good player I'm often c-cing further UI quite happily. How terrible is my thinking?
14:00 Villain reraises your UTG open with QQ and you don't mention his PF play when discussing hand. Is just calling an FR UTG open from a good player with QQ not standard anymore?
http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/7281-Nolan-5-200NL?seek=1274 Weird hand with 75s. I'm wondering if you can check this hand out a bit more as I think it's v interesting. I'm sure he's usually value betting an overpair here and with the FR grinder atmosphere think he will usually have to tank-fold to your push simply because there are so few hands you turn into a bluff here. You say he's not hero folding TT but I think he folds that and better quite a lot. You'd be repping only 77 full and quads though?
http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/7281-Nolan-5-200NL?seek=1457 AA Preflop. This 3 bang with AA seems too small. Couldn't both these guys profitably set mine you here? I think they'll still 4 bang with the same range (or possibly more?) if you made it a bit more.
Related preflop question. http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/7281-Nolan-5-200NL?seek=181477. BIG 3 bangs to 36. "With that bet size he's never bluffing". I actually understood that squeezes above 15 BBs (100 deep)were very often bluffs or huge hands repping bluffs. They take away the option of an opponent 4bet bluffing, don't they (4better will be pot stuck to the push unless he min 4bets or something)? Frown I just thought $30+ means 'push or fold dude' and so was usually/often a bluff. If this is true I guess BIG's 3bet is 6 dollars too big with his entire range here.
http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/7281-Nolan-5-200NL?seek=1970 54s. "When flop a pair on a board like this have to at least call". I was very surprised by this. Doesn't calling here encourage getting bluffed off those rare times we're ahead? I thought it was standard to call on such boards only with draws(mixing in huge hands and bluff catches every now and then). I was under the impression good OOP players always barrell turn here with any two because you so rarely have anything. Frown
http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/7281-Nolan-5-200NL?seek=3861 AA. Is c-cing down here attrocious? I often do this, especially this deep. I feel good players will bluff us out a lot here. Are we betting to induce bluffs? I can see it's an easy flop bet and value barrel/s vs a standard TAG without much game or passive random (we're folding to their aggression?). But I'm very troubled here vs decent players. Frown You opt to c-c in a similar spot with AK at http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/7281-Nolan-5-200NL?seek=1935 Well, I guess it's not that similar. But I find it easier to bet on this second Kc4h2h board that you opt to check.
Many thanks for any help Nolan!
Sheesh that's a lot.
All the spots vs BIG and stuff are sort of affected by our history and my deep understanding of how he plays. I wouldn't read too much into them.
As far as the 54s goes, I think when you flop a pair in pos and the board has draws/etc and you can turn your hand into a bluff on a lot of turns you basically always have to float (and you can improve as well obviously). I don't hate folding but if you're going to play a hand like 54s I personally don't think its reasonable to fold a pair in position.
As far as the 3b with AA, I don't know, maybe it's too small, I'm not used to bet sizing in these stakes but I thought it was OK. This may be a factor of not playing hte stakes. In bigger games having smaller 3b sizes is generally going to be fine as people are more apt to 4b you etc and it's good to balance your range so you lose less for the times you 3b/fold. This may not be the case at 200nl and the truth is I really don't know.
Lastly, C/C'ing AA down is usually going to be bad there. I don't like to play guessing games and let my opponents determine the pot sizes on such draw heavy boards. You open yourself up to getting valuetowned/owned too much imo. With strong reads against certain players this can definitely be a fine line, but in general I dislike it.
In early hand you flat TT oop and then c/f Q53r flop against a good reg (3 way). You say your hand is face-up and don't want to get outplayed by being barrelled on later streets so fold. You also mention that you'd never have a set here. Why not? Given someone already called, surely you'd call the 2bb more with 33 and 55?
Hi Nolan, the AQ J high dry board hand.
It was very obvious this guy had a Jack, he re raised you 3 times your siezeable initial c bet. That to me, combined with the fact he is an unknown, and the size of his reraise says he had a jack.
Nothing more to it really, no extra level thinking needed.
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That 88 hand was ridic. I don't understand Mossified's play w/ the AJ. Not sure what he expects you to fold. Seems very spazzy. Nice video.
Hi Nolan,
to the 88 hand. If villain choosed a normal river betsize, would that
be an easy call for you or a fold too?
Min 33:35 (Talbe 2) 54s:
what river cards a bad to barrel river again? His bet flop, c/c Turn line
looks like TT,JJ, maybe QQ or something like KQ he try to potcontrol an
he could know that the Ace is a good card for you to bluff again, but
a A High flushdraw is a good part your range so I think any heart or
ace is good to bet and any other river check?
Overall, very nice vid and I hope to see more from you in future.
In early hand you flat TT oop and then c/f Q53r flop against a good reg (3 way). You say your hand is face-up and don't want to get outplayed by being barrelled on later streets so fold. You also mention that you'd never have a set here. Why not? Given someone already called, surely you'd call the 2bb more with 33 and 55?
set mining oop with 55 or < isn't going to be profitable against good players imo.
this may be wrong and you'll hear different things from different (winning) players. personally i think they're more value in squeezing than calling.
Hi Nolan,
to the 88 hand. If villain choosed a normal river betsize, would that
be an easy call for you or a fold too?
Yes, because I think his range overall is a lot less polar. The only hand that makes any sense on the river there that I possibly beat that he is value betting is AQ, and I consider it highly unlikely he'd take that play for value (what can I call with?) He either has total air or the nuts and I just don't see him thinking through overbet bluffing in such a random spot enough to make calling ok.
If he bets a normal size he can be thin value'ing some Ax hands and KJ KT suited KQ etc. I highly doubt he's going to overbet value bet even KQ there, it's a matter of what he expects me to call him with.
45ss, what river cards a bad to barrel river again?
I think any river card that pairs the board is going to be bad because you just get looked up too much as your value range for betting is too polar. Just about every other river card is going to be good, even if its Q J T etc. I'm probably betting as if those cards don't hit him he probably gives me credit for them. This of course depends on how heroic the villains are.
hey can you explain the mossified hand. i cant imagine calling there but obviously you were in disagreement. because earlier in the video you said he had a low 3b percent. don't you run into AA KK like always..?
Hey Jenny,
Although he's not 3betting a ton, he knows who I am and I think he's likely to squeeze a large range of hands when I am the original opener and a bunch of people call PF because he has so much direct value (because when I fold, 98% of the time everyone else does as well).
The turn is definitely not a fistpump call don't get me wrong, but I decided that he's smart enough to know that if he bets the flop he has to shove the turn and he's also aware that I very rarely have a set or straight in this spot and will fold JJ/QQ sometimes.
You probably noticed in the vid I was pretty torn about what to do, and it's a very very close spot but I think in retrospect my play is fine with the amount of dead $ in the pot I only have to be right about 35-40% of the time or so.
that makes sense to me. what do you think of his play then? pretty standard?
so just in general one should be pretty much jamming his entire range with a psb left
In a situation where the pot is that inflated and it's reasonable that I can fold, yes.
when teh player in the QQ hand wasn't Mossified84 but a NIT like lets say TimStone instead, would you still call the QQ or muck it and berate him in chat?
if the player was timstone i wouldn't even consider calling preflop ever
nice video, bro!
Good to have you back Nolan.
Part 2 asap please.
Nice vid....now some 6max pls!
yo what table mod are you using?
The A-10 v JJ hand I like the lead on the flop, betting out with strong hands on dry boards is something I don't do enough myself.
The small bet to induce a bluff on the river was really good.
I find it interesting though that you are thinking of repping certain boards where most of the time the villain has a strong hand. It turns you err on the side of caution though and fold....I feel myself that repping too much long term costs you a lot of money, do you agree?
Really enjoyed the video overall, very useful and good advice. ![]()
And I am going to min bet into him because I hate him- lol.
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