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Nolan (#2) by Nolan

Nolan is back with his second Ringside video for DeucesCracked. He's 6-tabling again, this time $200NL Full Ring on Stars, discussing how Heads Up play can drastically help your Full Ring winrate.

Posted over 2 years ago

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No Limit Hold 'Em Mid Stakes, 73 min long


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pkr_brat

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nice cant wait to watch

Posted over 2 years ago

limitpoker1

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wow,a 6 table video,would love to see that on a limit video to.

Posted over 2 years ago

Dizgizzle

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Hey man, good vid. As far as length, I like to see maybe 45-50 mins of playtime, with a PT review at the end. I think you play a very smart thinking style, and you are good at getting your thoughts across when you play.

I used to play Full Ring with Setzer Mason at 25NL well over a year ago, so it is neat seeing him doing so well, and motivates me to improve my game to his level.

Posted over 2 years ago

Nolan

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Hey man, good vid. As far as length, I like to see maybe 45-50 mins of playtime, with a PT review at the end. I think you play a very smart thinking style, and you are good at getting your thoughts across when you play.

I used to play Full Ring with Setzer Mason at 25NL well over a year ago, so it is neat seeing him doing so well, and motivates me to improve my game to his level.



Thank you very much for the feedback,
I opted not to include the PT review in this one because I felt the shorthanded dynamic on the right tables would have skewed the data too much. In videos where I play full handed throughout I will certainly try and include it.

If you guys could give me feedback about how clear my speaking is and cosmetic things like that which I could patch up it would really help me out. I'm hoping to get as much feedback as possible from my first few videos then make a second "batch" with the feedback applied and hopefully put out some A-level product.

Thanks,

Nolan.

Posted over 2 years ago

audikid

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great vid nolan. i appreciate your articulate breakdown of the hands, but i did have a question about your a6 v. TT hand.

Why not shove that king river into him? you raised utg, it is feasible you were two barreling him with AK, and he would be hard pressed to call with any pocket pair really. do you think it could be too bluffy and get looked up? I just see it as an obvious hand in your range and he plays his hand pretty face up as a draw or a pp, both of which will fold to a riv bet.

Only antithesis I see can be that you want his missed draws to bet that river and pick them off. Lmk what you think the best line is for his range.

Posted over 2 years ago

Nolan

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you remember what minute it was at? can find it quicker this way.

Posted over 2 years ago

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Hi Nolan. TY for a solid video. This one was more useful to me personally than your last simply because these stakes are closer to the ones I play. In general, I think that you have a very good, and non-convoluted way of getting a point across which is pretty cool. As for the length, I think they should be as long as possible. I know you said that you don't want people to doze off halfway through a long video and shut it off because of boredom, but I think that those of us who will benefit most from these videos watch them for knowledge, not for entertainment purposes, and the way I see it; the more I can learn, the better. As for the cosmetics, your setup is very easy on the eyes, and is very easy to look at. One thing that I will ask though is that you keep playing 6tables in future videos, instead of the traditional 4. You voice is perfectly clear btw.

I do have one question about the hands themselves, and that is the J9o hand, LDO. You said that the reason you shoved is because he could have been making a move on the flop with many draws, yet you seemed surprised that he had T9s. If you did not think T9s was in his range, wouldn't that remove the greater majority of draws from his possible range? Also, his c/r was obviously committing himself to the hand which makes me inclined to think that a badly played AT is at the bottom of his range in that spot. Just wondering what you think of my analysis?

TY again for a great vid.

Posted over 2 years ago

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Thanks for the input noidea,

As far as that hand goes, it's certainly debatable. I of course expected it to bring up some discussion. I was surprised he had T9 suited more so because I thought he would be playing hands that are less dominated. For example, since 99 and TT are in my range more than 77 and 66, I'd expect him to play lower suited connectors and higher connected cards. It's probably a stretch to consider him that deep of a thinking player (I mean this in the least offensive way possible) given that we have no effective history.

The reality of my showing down the J9 is essentially this. I have middle pair in a three bet pot. I've already invested nearly 30%+ of my stack. Against a spectrum of his ranges, with the $ in the pot my equity is never horrible. I'm ahead a decent amount of the time to a random AK bluff, a gutshot, and any other hands. If he did have an AT hand I'm not drawing too far behind.

Also, I'm confident enough in my game to know that I will remember showing down that hand on that table and will hopefully be able to out-play villains on that table (and villains on that and other tables who may have noticed that hand) in the future by guessing how they will adapt to the new "Read" they have formed based on that showdown (read: TIGHTEN UP). Manipulating your image is a hugely important facet of all forms of poker, and I'll take a neutral/slightly -EV short term play any day if I'm confident that it will have +EV implications in my future play. (In this case, it wouldn't as I won't play any of these villains any time soon most likely, but you understand I need to play in the mindset of a grinder for a video regardless of the level/game I'm playing, as I presume grinders are the people who are trying to watch and learn from them).

Sorry to write a novel, I hope that gives you the rough idea of my thinking. I hope you understand why I figured him for more high cards / low cards draws than middle cards, even if that is getting a bit ahead of myself.

Posted over 2 years ago

noidea555

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Thanks for clearing that up Nolan. I certainly understand where you are coming from now more so than I did before. Also, I know this is kind of a premature question, but do you have any idea of when your next video will be coming out?

Posted over 2 years ago

audikid

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you remember what minute it was at? can find it quicker this way.



Im not sure of the minute but it was one of the hands you reviewed in PT, I think I remember -$108 net?

Raise A6s utg, one caller two seats to left, flop came 556 I believe and you two barreled.

Posted over 2 years ago

Nolan

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Im not sure of the minute but it was one of the hands you reviewed in PT, I think I remember -$108 net?

Raise A6s utg, one caller two seats to left, flop came 556 I believe and you two barreled.



I just re-looked at it. I think you're right that betting certainly has merit. In that scenario I suppose I may have gotten ahead of myself thinking he'd turn air or a draw into a bluff as pocket pairs certainly compose a large portion of his range. I'm just naturally hesitant to turn a made hand into a bluff but you're correct that this is probably a more than ideal spot for it.

Put it on record that betting > c/c on that hand. Thanks for pointing that out Audi.

Posted over 2 years ago

TheChosenOne

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Hey Nolan,

Very interesting video since I play these games as well Grin There are two hands I wanted to bring up in this discussion:

7:00 T9s

Flop comes 289 w/ 2 spades. 1 guy leads, another one calls. You opted the raise here. How are you gonna react to a 3 bet? Are we trying to get it all in on this board? What do you think about just calling here?

60:40 AJs

Flop comes K86r. Your cbet into two people looks reasonably strong. So when the tight regular calls your raise he probably has a K or better. You turned a J and you commented that you have to bet here again? Why? Our one pair is still crushed by his calling range and I doubt it's a good idea to try to get him off a KQish hand. That said, when this type of guy calls our flop bet I think his most likely hand is 66 or 88.

Posted over 2 years ago

Stackedu

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I dont mind videos over an hour. If i get bored ill just break it up into 2 30 minute sessions of me watching.

Posted over 2 years ago

Nolan

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Hey Nolan,

7:00 T9s

Flop comes 289 w/ 2 spades. 1 guy leads, another one calls. You opted the raise here. How are you gonna react to a 3 bet? Are we trying to get it all in on this board? What do you think about just calling here?



The raise is more so to see where I stand and to isolate one of the players who may have a draw. The player in 2nd positions flat there generally signals a weak hand (and on a board like that, we're almost 100% pinning that to a draw). Conversely, when Player 1 flats my raise as opposed to re-raising it's again indicative that he as well has a poor hand. So when the turn gave us extra outs and he donkbets it's an easy ship as he's probably donkbetting in an attempt to control the pot. Plus, we have a lot of outs if we are behind generally. If one of them shoved the flop over my raise I'd have to weigh out their ranges further and do some quick math as far as the equity involved and in this specific situation I would usually fold and figure at best I'm up against overcards + FD.

60:40 AJs

Flop comes K86r. Your cbet into two people looks reasonably strong. So when the tight regular calls your raise he probably has a K or better. You turned a J and you commented that you have to bet here again? Why? Our one pair is still crushed by his calling range and I doubt it's a good idea to try to get him off a KQish hand. That said, when this type of guy calls our flop bet I think his most likely hand is 66 or 88.



Well, this is certainly a debatable hand. In my opinion, given that he flats after the other player has already folded, his hand range isn't necessarily as tight as it would be if the other player were still involved. XWave could conceivably float me with a decent pocket pair or even A high knowing that the board is dry and in turn can not hit much of my range very strongly. Because of this when we hit a card on the turn that improves our hand I think we have to bet again both to protect our hand and to get more money in the pot in the event he does have KQ or such and we improve on the river. Basically what it comes down to is that hitting a pair on the turn and check/folding to the villains line is just too weak of a play imo, and I never shy away from putting in a second barrel when it is profitable to do so from both a value and image consideration.

Cliff notes: C/F turn when we hit a card on that dry of a board is weak and as you can see from the vid, I ain't fancying myself much of a coward.

Posted over 2 years ago

tiil

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Finno-Ugric actually, but very close. Nice vid.

Posted over 2 years ago

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nice vid

more is better - longer or many short - both are good as i can pause the vid anytime

1)~24:30 you ck/fold 89 with top pair in a limped pot - just wondering why

2)elsewhere i thought you said your standard open was 3x and in this vid it was 4x - is this related to the stakes? what would you recommend for 100NLH

thanks - keep the FR coming!

Posted over 2 years ago

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nice vid

more is better - longer or many short - both are good as i can pause the vid anytime

1)~24:30 you ck/fold 89 with top pair in a limped pot - just wondering why

2)elsewhere i thought you said your standard open was 3x and in this vid it was 4x - is this related to the stakes? what would you recommend for 100NLH

thanks - keep the FR coming!



at 3/6+ i employ a 3bb pfr. i just think the games play tighter and thus its better to open more pots for a smaller raise as your more likely to see heads up pots. it's certainly a debatable practice.

without looking at the hand, i probably check/fold because im out of position and unlikely to turn a card that looks good for my hand. this is simply playing the power of position and giving my opponent credit for being able to outplay me due to position. "don't go broke in limp pots" basically.

Posted over 2 years ago

pkr_brat

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Another good video from you, i hope that you get a series when the next season of series start. And plz dont join the heads up vids theres already lots of it on this site and its tough to get good fullring vids anywhere so for me these are gold.

Posted over 2 years ago

TheChosenOne

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In my other post I forgot to give feedback about your video in general. I really think this was a good video. You're speaking in a clear way and you always try to find interesting things to talk about. There was close to no downtime in your video. Good job.

Onto the hands...

Ok, I agree on the T9s hand. There is value in raising as long as villain's most likely reaction to our bet is to call or fold, which is the case.

About the other hand:

Well, this is certainly a debatable hand. In my opinion, given that he flats after the other player has already folded, his hand range isn't necessarily as tight as it would be if the other player were still involved.



Yes, but tigther than if it had been a heads up pot.

And on a sidenote, you commented that Xwave instacalled your bet. This is not a tell, since Tiemlong took a very long time to take a decision. Xwave already had in mind what he would do.

XWave could conceivably float me with a decent pocket pair or even A high knowing that the board is dry and in turn can not hit much of my range very strongly.



We're raising UTG and we make a strong $20 bet in a $24 pot. Like you said in your video, Xwave is going to give you some respect here. A solid regular knows that you are betting your entire range on this flop. However, I doubt this is the case for Xwave. He is probably putting you on a big pair or AK here. Therefore I think he's almost never floating you here w/ just A high, and occasionally having an underpair or 97s (probably always continuing w/ 97s here, but I think he's mucking it a decent amount preflop). To me it seems like his range here is heavily weighted towards a good king or a set. And I doubt it's +EV to try to get him off it.


Because of this when we hit a card on the turn that improves our hand I think we have to bet again both to protect our hand and to get more money in the pot in the event he does have KQ or such and we improve on the river.



I don't really see the need for protecting our hand. Most weaker hands other than 97s only have 2 outs vs our pair of Jacks. And yes, he could blow you off your hand if you check to him if he has 97s, but I think he's checking all of his weaker hands behind for pot control.

And I doubt c/f is weak if my assumption about his flop calling range is right. We simply have little FE so a bet here would be -EV, even though we picked up a few possible outs. Possible, because we could be reverse dominated or crushed even.

But then, I could be wrong Smile. Would also be interesting if others have something to say about this

Posted over 2 years ago

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Chosen one, thank you very much for the feedback.

In regards to the AJ hand, I suspect you're right and I did indeed get overaggressive and make a mistake. Against players who I have more history with I can give them more credit for floating me, but in this spot I have no reason for the villain to view me as anything but a multi tabling random, and I should just give up.

It's good to take the aggressive road but it is clearly an overplay of my hand in this spot. Hopefully those watching the video read this comments and understand that I did indeed go too far with my reasoning and make a mistake.

-Nolan.

Posted over 2 years ago

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Great vid thanks. I like the length, perfect. Very clear commentary. I like the insights and comments on the regular players and what to expect from that type of player. More FR please.

Posted over 2 years ago

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Would you comment on the KTo hand you isolate with at 53:44 and then on the same table 1min later you find yourself on teh button with KTo and chose not call a LP raise with it. I don't have a specific question but it just seems a bit odd to me and I would like you to expand on this thought process.

Posted over 2 years ago

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Would you comment on the KTo hand you isolate with at 53:44 and then on the same table 1min later you find yourself on teh button with KTo and chose not call a LP raise with it. I don't have a specific question but it just seems a bit odd to me and I would like you to expand on this thought process.



Being the aggressor + position >> than just position. KTo is a bad 3b hand and I don't want to play a hand that is often dominated is the basic ABC of it.

Posted over 2 years ago

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Being the aggressor + position >> than just position. KTo is a bad 3b hand and I don't want to play a hand that is often dominated is the basic ABC of it.



We aren't the aggressor + position though. We are just the agressor. Are you saying in a limped pot KT is more valuable being the aggressor OOP than it is in position as the non-agressor?

Posted over 2 years ago

Nolan

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more or less.

Posted over 2 years ago

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Thanks for another awesome FR vid, very clear commentary and 6 tables seems to be perfect. For your question about video length I would say that make them as long as you can, I wouldnt mind even a 2.5 hour vid... Grin Seriously though, I'd say anything from 45 mins to 90 mins is fine. I dont think any real fullringer will quit watching in the middle of the vid, no matter how long it is, as there is never enough FR-content for us.

Oh, also pls make a NL100 vid in the future if possible Smile

Posted over 2 years ago

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It's a good video but its WAAAAAY too short. You can't get anything from this to improve your game.

Posted about 1 year ago

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I love your video's Nolan!

Please please please enable PokerStars auto-rebuy (they have that now, right?) or get an AHK to do this for you.

Posted 5 months ago

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Nice video.

You bet and raise a lot of turns in spots where I tend to be way more passive. This seems to work out for you when they fold (surprisingly often) but when they call, we do seem to be crushed. (for example the A6 v TT hand, and the AJ hand near the end) Do you find that the profit made by getting them to fold makes up for the times when villain calls with a better hand ? It just seems that by double barreling marginal spots, we are turning our hands into bluffs.

The hand reviews are good at the end, but it would be so much better if you used the hand replayer.

Posted 4 months ago




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