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Nolan, I liked it, very good video, hope to see some other FR videos from you soon. (perhaps 100NL at FTP if you play there?)
You mentioned that ideal or target won$ when saw flop should be ~40%. My life-time rate in 100NL and 200NL is 35.1, and in May 36.67 when what I've started doing is just trying to pick up orphan pots more if HU or 3-ways by taking stabs.
Briefly, are there any "cliff-notes" how to increase this stat by any few simple methods?
Thanks
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Nolan, I liked it, very good video, hope to see some other FR videos from you soon. (perhaps 100NL at FTP if you play there?)
You mentioned that ideal or target won$ when saw flop should be ~40%. My life-time rate in 100NL and 200NL is 35.1, and in May 36.67 when what I've started doing is just trying to pick up orphan pots more if HU or 3-ways by taking stabs.
Briefly, are there any "cliff-notes" how to increase this stat by any few simple methods?
Thanks
Don't worry too much about being at 35% W$WSF, you are certainly in the norm. This isn't to say however that you can't improve. Without any specific info about how you play etc. the most common reason people have trouble achieving 40 W$WSF is that they are missing opportunities to steal multiway pots. For instance if you see a board of A83 second to act in a three way pot and UTG checks, you could consider this effectively being 1v1 with the person in position as the player who is first to act would have to be generally slowplaying a set to have a remote chance of having a hand he could continue with. There's other examples that aren't as cut and dry as this and it would take all day to detail them but hopefully you can work on that in your play.
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Loved the video! Looking forward for the next one!
One question: What do you think is the biggest difference between NL200 and NL400? If you play at Full Tilt or any other sites, are there any differences?
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Loved the video! Looking forward for the next one!
One question: What do you think is the biggest difference between NL200 and NL400? If you play at Full Tilt or any other sites, are there any differences?
Thanks!
Generally the regulars at 400nl will be a lot more aggressive. There is less flatting from the blinds and more postflop floating and bluff raising etc. "Nitting" it up doesn't work as well in general.
I find FTP games to be a little softer than PS but they run less frequently and 3/6 almost never runs. 5/10 and 10/20 run sparingly. Most euro-sites have ten handed full ring games, which is just a little too boring and tilty combined with their generally sub-par software. Eurosites are for 6 handed and hu in my humble opinion 
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wow awesome fullring video
would love to see more
+1 i really enjoyed this. you did a great job of balancing 6-tables with the commentary, although i still think doing 4 occasionally would be good so you can discuss some "what if" situations more often. im mainly interested in preflop decisions since that is the bulk of the play in any game, and my FR preflop strategy is definitely subpar.
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awesome! Say, what's your winrate 18-tabling? I'm really curious
Your pf style is kinda similar to mine so I might consider gettting a few sessions with you because my main Coach only teaches Hu and 6max.
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awesome! Say, what's your winrate 18-tabling? I'm really curious 
Your pf style is kinda similar to mine so I might consider gettting a few sessions with you because my main Coach only teaches Hu and 6max.
This link is a screenshot of the biggest sample i have in my DB. i should note that when i checked session notes my actual "MT Ratio" is 12 but that includes starting a session etc. (it can take up to 30 minutes to get a solid 18 tables running, and then they die etc). So to say I "18-table" isn't 100% accurate, more so I [i]attempt[/] to 18 table every time I play
. I'd also like to include that I had a horrible -20bi or so stretch at 3/6 full ring over this sample where I genuinely ran horribly (and tilted sporadically of course), so my actual winrate is a bit nearer 4.0 or so.
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/8945/statsij5.jpg
also: looking at the rake in these big samples tilts me so hard.
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One question on the A9 suited hand and calling and UTG raiser.
I agree with your hand range AQ+ and 66+ or the UTG raiser.
With the possibility of being dominated and even with a good flop like you had, you still played the hand scared.
Do you believe that call to be profitable long term?
I personally would rather call with J9s then A9s given the same setup.
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One question on the A9 suited hand and calling and UTG raiser.
I agree with your hand range AQ+ and 66+ or the UTG raiser.
With the possibility of being dominated and even with a good flop like you had, you still played the hand scared.
Do you believe that call to be profitable long term?
I personally would rather call with J9s then A9s given the same setup.
J9s probably is a slightly more EV+ hand given that it's less likely I'm dominated preflop, however I still think it's never a leak to call with any hand that can formulate the nut flush when you are in position to a competent UTG raiser. He will give my flop raises more respect in general, so it's easy to get a feel for if he has a monster or a whiffed pp/ak. Also you can extract massive value when you do hit a gin flop.
I didn't neccesarily play the hand "scared" although it seems so, rather I feel I was realistically playing for maximum value. On that board texture there is a limited range of hands which I can value bet against that don't have me beat on a paired board given the high cards on the board.
There is certainly merit to an argument against how I played it, although I'm confident in my assessment of the opponent/situation.
Just my 2c, I appreciate your input though.
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Great video 
Since joining DC I have been re-building my game (I play 50NL). I started with the DJ Sensei Nit style (also some neat little tricks), then when I was comfortable with that I started to add more aggression. This is where the Bottomset videos helped in looking for the correct spots to do this. No where near his 20/16 (?) style, I'm running at about 13/10. Looking to build this up gradually when I get more comfortable with putting myself in marginal spots.
From watching your video I liked your thoughts on bet sizing and have tried to add this into my game. Also was interested in your views of W$WSF. I had a look in PT and mine was at 35%ish. Listened to what you said and started looking for spots in multi-way pots where I can take it down. This has been working a treat so far and in the last 10K hands my W$WSF is now just over 40%.
Looking forward to more videos from yourself and Bottomset (hopefully DJ Sensei as well).
Two questions,
I noticed you called an UTG open raise in middle position with KJs. I have been folding the higher SC/SG in these positions (will play them in late position) and call with the low SC/SG.
Would you recommend me adding these into my middle position calling range?
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Should I also be adding these (suited high gappers) into my open raising range?
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Nolan
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Great video
Since joining DC I have been re-building my game (I play 50NL). I started with the DJ Sensei Nit style (also some neat little tricks), then when I was comfortable with that I started to add more aggression. This is where the Bottomset videos helped in looking for the correct spots to do this. No where near his 20/16 (?) style, I'm running at about 13/10. Looking to build this up gradually when I get more comfortable with putting myself in marginal spots.
From watching your video I liked your thoughts on bet sizing and have tried to add this into my game. Also was interested in your views of W$WSF. I had a look in PT and mine was at 35%ish. Listened to what you said and started looking for spots in multi-way pots where I can take it down. This has been working a treat so far and in the last 10K hands my W$WSF is now just over 40%.
Looking forward to more videos from yourself and Bottomset (hopefully DJ Sensei as well).
Two questions,
I noticed you called an UTG open raise in middle position with KJs. I have been folding the higher SC/SG in these positions (will play them in late position) and call with the low SC/SG.
Would you recommend me adding these into my middle position calling range?
and
Should I also be adding these (suited high gappers) into my open raising range?
Opening/calling ranges vary with stakes and table dynamics. At NL50 folding these is probably more optimal, however I can't accurately diagnose this as I have 0 experience in 100nl and < full ring play
. I assume you'd have to be much nittier than how I would play 1/2+.
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Opening/calling ranges vary with stakes and table dynamics. At NL50 folding these is probably more optimal, however I can't accurately diagnose this as I have 0 experience in 100nl and < full ring play
. I assume you'd have to be much nittier than how I would play 1/2+.
Right enough, you mentioned in your video you haven't played at that level.
thanks for the reply
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If my won$ when saw flop is at 45%, is that possibly a problem with my game? I have similar stats to you(18/14) but I dont think Im calling raises quite as light as you if that helps to answer my question.
Also just want to say great video. I just signed up here and found this video very helpful. Im gonna try out some of the different bet sizes you suggest against non-regs and see how it works.
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Yep, a problem if you don't like making more money. Please continue directly to the advanced class. Thank you.
;-)
At some point it has to become a problem. For example, if you c-bet every time and bet whenever checked to thats not going to be optimal but its going to increase your W$WSF. Im just wondering what most people think would be an optimal W$WSF.
Also Im surprised that Nolan finds it weird that Studboy was limping in. When I play against him he seems to love open limping. I do agree that he adapts his play very well though.
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J9s probably is a slightly more EV+ hand given that it's less likely I'm dominated preflop, however I still think it's never a leak to call with any hand that can formulate the nut flush when you are in position to a competent UTG raiser. He will give my flop raises more respect in general, so it's easy to get a feel for if he has a monster or a whiffed pp/ak. Also you can extract massive value when you do hit a gin flop.
I didn't neccesarily play the hand "scared" although it seems so, rather I feel I was realistically playing for maximum value. On that board texture there is a limited range of hands which I can value bet against that don't have me beat on a paired board given the high cards on the board.
There is certainly merit to an argument against how I played it, although I'm confident in my assessment of the opponent/situation.
Just my 2c, I appreciate your input though.
This hand had me a little confused as well. Its not that I question your play, its just that I have questions ABOUT your play, as I am sure I couldn't play this profitably. Are you basically just looking for boards to bluff b/c they look like they hit your range? If so, do you feel it is necessary to be aggressive as well if you hit for instance an A high board?
Great vids nolan, I'm really enjoying them
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Great vid! haven't seen too many but best I have so far.
Just one question on specific hand. A2o u 3bet stealer with. You commented that this was for image and I have had many debates about how impoartant this actually is given all the multi-tabling. Do you consider the fact you are on tables with regs or nonregs at all? And how important do you think image is in FR? Do you think it varies from level to level?
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I think it varies from level to leve, with importance rising as you move up of course.
When mega-tabling image can even be MORE important as you can be on 15 tables with the same person, and therefore he will be able to gather info about your perceived play at a faster rate.
I don't think staying on the tighter side is a bad thing, I just wanted to highlight some spots I put myself in with some frequency and explain why.
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This hand had me a little confused as well. Its not that I question your play, its just that I have questions ABOUT your play, as I am sure I couldn't play this profitably. Are you basically just looking for boards to bluff b/c they look like they hit your range? If so, do you feel it is necessary to be aggressive as well if you hit for instance an A high board?
Great vids nolan, I'm really enjoying them
I am looking to bluff boards, particularly those that are like 457 with a flush draw etc.
I won't play an A high flop too fast, you'll get yourself valuetowned a lot doing this against most people.
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Awesome video!
im really glad to see a lagish type player at FR. I play pretty loose myself (18/15) and I couldnt see myself playing less hands... I really liked how you did your video also, the 6tables was nice, and you only sat at the tables for 30 minutes.. which I think is good, I think vids over 45minutes is just way too long.
I really hope you make some more vids, maybe some 100nl-200nl vids
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I'm interested that you choose to make all your preflop raises 4x the big blind, seems to work out really well for you. However would you recommend doing this at lower limits as well as higher limits. Many videos and books recommend 3x at all times.
What should your 3-4 betting frequency be with technically troublesome hands like AQ, AK, JJ.
I have found myself calling 3 bets with A-K and AQ and losing my stack on a dangerous flop when my opponent has me crushed by Aces or Kings, so should I lean towards folding AK and AQ to a 3 bet preflop.
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