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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by WiltOnTilt (High Stakes)

fwf v wot - what a start for the series!

This should be fun to watch

looks pretty good! Also been catching nice cards obv

As for 3xing, you said you make it depend on his vpip wether to 3x or minraise, but isn't his 3bet % more important when deciding to 3x or minraise?
Specially when u have an edge postflop (and we usually think we do when we play somebody hu), it doesnt really matter that much if he coldcalls a lot because we are gonna make his life hard oop in a single raised pot and we don't really mind having a bit more money in the pot.

I also have a few questions about the 92 2pair hand where you fold the river.
1. Do you think it becomes more or less likely he is bluffing right after losing a stack the hand before?
2. What do you think of a raise on the turn? we don't really rep a lot, he might ship it in semi light there with pair+draws and stuff, and there are about 20 rivercards that aren't that great for our hand.

one of the best videos Ive seen in a while... gonna watch this one several times, so much gold!

I have a question on the 92 hand. For me dont seems like an ez fold. Dont you think that there is enough combs of QT KT AT hands that take that line? also those hands are not c/r flop as often as heart draws and nut hands(wich makes his donk flop range a little more weighted to QT KT AT), also WiltOnTilt is probably going to use a river heart as a 100% bluffing card, and there is not much 6's in his range I think.

A few times so far you've three bet pf, then c/call flop then c/fold turn. i'd say your image should look loose (opening every button) and aggro (raising gutshots on paired boards). Wot can adjust by pounding on you when you check since you can't have a strong hand that often/, and you can adjust by setting some tarps like 3b pf c/c flop c/r! turn for value.

looks pretty good! Also been catching nice cards obv

As for 3xing, you said you make it depend on his vpip wether to 3x or minraise, but isn't his 3bet % more important when deciding to 3x or minraise?
Specially when u have an edge postflop (and we usually think we do when we play somebody hu), it doesnt really matter that much if he coldcalls a lot because we are gonna make his life hard oop in a single raised pot and we don't really mind having a bit more money in the pot.

This is right but normally if I have a guy folding too much to 3xes I'm worried that if I minraise he may start calling a wide enough range, so why mess w/a good thing?

I also have a few questions about the 92 2pair hand where you fold the river.
1. Do you think it becomes more or less likely he is bluffing right after losing a stack the hand before?

I think that for someone who's overrolled for 10/20 and not a tilt monkey it makes basically no difference. Not like he's a fish, Wilt's a (very level headed) pro and isn't about to suicide bluff this board just because he got stacked

2. What do you think of a raise on the turn? we don't really rep a lot, he might ship it in semi light there with pair+draws and stuff, and there are about 20 rivercards that aren't that great for our hand.

I think raise/calling is pure spew and raising the turn doesn't "not rep a lot" it represents a very big hand which slowplayed the flop to get more action and see a safe turn

I have a question on the 92 hand. For me dont seems like an ez fold. Dont you think that there is enough combs of QT KT AT hands that take that line? also those hands are not c/r flop as often as heart draws and nut hands(wich makes his donk flop range a little more weighted to QT KT AT), also WiltOnTilt is probably going to use a river heart as a 100% bluffing card, and there is not much 6's in his range I think.

I disagree that there aren't many 6s in his range, but looking back at it maybe I should have called b/c I agree he bluffs this river every time. Close call

A few times so far you've three bet pf, then c/call flop then c/fold turn. i'd say your image should look loose (opening every button) and aggro (raising gutshots on paired boards). Wot can adjust by pounding on you when you check since you can't have a strong hand that often/, and you can adjust by setting some tarps like 3b pf c/c flop c/r! turn for value.

So I definitely agree that's what it looks like, but generally in my game plan I like to reraise and c/c with monsters quite often specifically because of that concern you had. When you 3bet a ton like I do you have to check a lot of flops and only doing it with your junk is obviously bad. Unfortunately I didn't really flop many big hands in this video on boards where I check/call marginal hands or check/fold often so I didn't get a chance to showcase that. I'll definitely try showing it in later videos

one of the best videos Ive seen in a while... gonna watch this one several times, so much gold!

+1, I've already watched it twice today, and will probably re-watch the entire series when it is finished.

This is right but normally if I have a guy folding too much to 3xes I'm worried that if I minraise he may start calling a wide enough range, so why mess w/a good thing?

I was also a little confused about this. I've thought about this for awhile and am still unable to understand the situation completely. I think this may be a big flaw in my thought process.

Assuming my opponent isn't 3-betting a large amount, yet has high-ish VPIP, I usually tighten up a bit and continue 3x-ing. If his VPIP is low, I tend to start minraising to get him to play more hands out of position/take him out of his comfort zone. In all honestly I never really consider him folding too much or the bluff price/worry about him calling a more profitable range if he is folding too much.

Also, how big of a difference does the stake (or rather the skill level) of the opponent make in the decision to minraise or 3x?

I'm fairly new to HU and still playing 50NL, so I apologize if this is all incredibly basic. I was just hoping you could expand more on minraising vs 3x-ing.


I'm really looking forward to future episodes.

About the JT check-raise on 752r. I like raising overs on the dry boards a lot. I do it a lot at 50NL HU, But whenever I do, I always thinking about what value hands I need to throw in there if I want to be balanced. It's just an excercise for me and not something I'll actually do because most people at 50nl don't like floating/3-betting light so much. I am curious about how you would widen your value range in that spot since you are bluffing a lot. I always think of adding some nuttier top pairs like A7 on 752, but I always think you miss out on so many barrels and value-own yourself like that. Idk, it just seems JT on 752 might be unbalanced vs. good opponents.

Since you are making this series about headsup matches, and spreading it over two vids each, I'd like to suggest a slightly unusual format.

I realise that the episodes are probably in the can, and you may likely not be able to take it up, but hey, don't ask, don't get.

What I'd like is to switch into powerpoint to go through any mods to your basic strategy to exploit opponent's tendencies. This might be best at the start of the second episode to each match, saying eg:

OpponentX is:
* Checking behind on turn with draws
* Betting pocket pairs but only barreling when they are 2nd pair or better
* Cbetting all his air
* 2nd barreling only strong hands

Our adjustments to his is:
* CR Bluffing scare cards which complete a draw when opponent barrels
* Calling one street with second pair

You could even cut from an interesting hand to the powerpoint to add the bullet point for the read and the adjustment. The reason for this is that quite often in videos, a read or an adjustment is explained too quickly for me to follow, or I don't understand it by the time it actually comes into play.

About the JT check-raise on 752r. I like raising overs on the dry boards a lot. I do it a lot at 50NL HU, But whenever I do, I always thinking about what value hands I need to throw in there if I want to be balanced. It's just an excercise for me and not something I'll actually do because most people at 50nl don't like floating/3-betting light so much. I am curious about how you would widen your value range in that spot since you are bluffing a lot. I always think of adding some nuttier top pairs like A7 on 752, but I always think you miss out on so many barrels and value-own yourself like that. Idk, it just seems JT on 752 might be unbalanced vs. good opponents.

well of course you should be check/raising K7 and A7 as well as 88/99 if you didn't 3bet them. those hands absolutely murder your opponents' bet/call range and add a lot of balance to your c/r range

Since you are making this series about headsup matches, and spreading it over two vids each, I'd like to suggest a slightly unusual format.

I realise that the episodes are probably in the can, and you may likely not be able to take it up, but hey, don't ask, don't get.

What I'd like is to switch into powerpoint to go through any mods to your basic strategy to exploit opponent's tendencies. This might be best at the start of the second episode to each match, saying eg:

OpponentX is:
* Checking behind on turn with draws
* Betting pocket pairs but only barreling when they are 2nd pair or better
* Cbetting all his air
* 2nd barreling only strong hands

Our adjustments to his is:
* CR Bluffing scare cards which complete a draw when opponent barrels
* Calling one street with second pair

You could even cut from an interesting hand to the powerpoint to add the bullet point for the read and the adjustment. The reason for this is that quite often in videos, a read or an adjustment is explained too quickly for me to follow, or I don't understand it by the time it actually comes into play.

Hmm...I'm not sure I trust that I'll have a good eye for knowing what specific issues people would be particularly interested in. Don't want to do a powerpoint about 4 or 5 things that people already feel comfortable about while neglecting the stuff they actually want to hear about: I think just talking about everything that comes up and trusting the viewer to rewind/revisit parts that they need to think about is best

+1, I've already watched it twice today, and will probably re-watch the entire series when it is finished.




I was also a little confused about this. I've thought about this for awhile and am still unable to understand the situation completely. I think this may be a big flaw in my thought process.

Assuming my opponent isn't 3-betting a large amount, yet has high-ish VPIP, I usually tighten up a bit and continue 3x-ing. If his VPIP is low, I tend to start minraising to get him to play more hands out of position/take him out of his comfort zone. In all honestly I never really consider him folding too much or the bluff price/worry about him calling a more profitable range if he is folding too much.

Also, how big of a difference does the stake (or rather the skill level) of the opponent make in the decision to minraise or 3x?

I'm fairly new to HU and still playing 50NL, so I apologize if this is all incredibly basic. I was just hoping you could expand more on minraising vs 3x-ing.


I'm really looking forward to future episodes.

There are a lot of factors that go into deciding whether or not to 3x or minraise. But a very very important one of those is how much of an immediate profit you can show with the raise sizes. If someone plays 38% against a 3x and 40% against a minraise, you should just about always minraise. That immediate profit you're gaining is worth way more than abstract ideas of game flow and comfort zones. If you find you're not making much $ either wya in a vacuum and you're getting 3bet a lot but not a shit-ton, you should minraise. If you're getting 3bet a shit-ton, you should 3x so you can make more money w/4bets (jamming or to 23 BB, depending on how he reacts to 4bets).

And, of course, you can mix up minraising and 3xing and see how your opponent adjusts to the new strategy

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with the q-6 hand @ 17 mins 36 secs, what are your reasons for not cbetting?
or do you think q high has show down?

with the q-6 hand @ 17 mins 36 secs, what are your reasons for not cbetting?
or do you think q high has show down?

NOt relaly, but the hands it loses to mostly don't fold the flop

Hmm...I'm not sure I trust that I'll have a good eye for knowing what specific issues people would be particularly interested in. Don't want to do a powerpoint about 4 or 5 things that people already feel comfortable about while neglecting the stuff they actually want to hear about: I think just talking about everything that comes up and trusting the viewer to rewind/revisit parts that they need to think about is best

I'm just visualising a slide that lists any conscious strategy adjustments you make for a player (with that effect that bullet points are hidden until the relevant point.) It might make an appearance for 60 seconds at the beginning of the second vid on a match. It would also allow the second vid to be easier to catch up on (a bit like "last week on 24..." on TV).

I could also imagine a recap where you show the slide again, and perhaps compare the current strategy slide with the WiltonTilt strategy slide. I think that kind of presentation would work well for me. I sometimes find that videos are little bit "stream of consciousness".

OTOH, it's more work. It's an unusual format, it's harder to produce, it costs time and I can't imagine that these videos are easy to do as it is.

Twas merely a suggestion, and this is merely to clarify the suggestion.

I think it would be very nice to see WoT holecards as well blended into the video like the other HU matches.

it may skew the analysis and hey poker is an one man game! but can really make your analysis stand out too when we actually get to see his cards and we get more analysis on his play too!

I think it would be very nice to see WoT holecards as well blended into the video like the other HU matches.

it may skew the analysis and hey poker is an one man game! but can really make your analysis stand out too when we actually get to see his cards and we get more analysis on his play too!

I honestly HATE that. I think it makes the viewer biased, at least on some level. It's like when I analyze my own hand histories: I try to look at HHs from awhile ago so I don't remember what my opponent had, etc. I think showing the opponents holecards in a video seriously almosts ruins the entire thing.

Btw, great video.

I honestly HATE that. I think it makes the viewer biased, at least on some level. It's like when I analyze my own hand histories: I try to look at HHs from awhile ago so I don't remember what my opponent had, etc. I think showing the opponents holecards in a video seriously almosts ruins the entire thing.

Btw, great video.

You could produce it so that the commentator doesn't see the hole cards while commenting, but they would be added in later for the viewer.

I like it either way! makes me want the next weeks one to have WoT whole card's up even if it has been made/commented by FwF!

You could produce it so that the commentator doesn't see the hole cards while commenting, but they would be added in later for the viewer.

I would still prefer no opponent hole cards at all, although I realize I might be in the minority on this one. When watching videos, a lot of value I get out of them is by putting myself in the same situation and asking myself what I would do in similar spots. This makes things.."stick" you could say. With the hole cards exposed it's harder to do this (not impossible obviously but the hole cards don't help). Plus it's just harder to focus on what is going on with the instructor and his comments because I find myself looking at opponent's hole cards and thinking about his line etc. Also, by having opponent's cards exposed, we see how he has been playing more so than the instructor did at the time. So for instance, if we saw that villain has been 4betting a lot but it has always been with a good hand and instructor has folded every time so far, we might be biased if instructor jams over the next 4bet light (basically we'll have a better read on villain than we should).

The important part of a video is the instructor's commentary. The good ones should be talking about their opponents' ranges and that is all that matters, which really makes the opponent's hole cards irrelevant IMO, and actually harmful in terms of the video's quality.

Time Link to 00:01:48

With KQ in a 3-bet pot pre, you bet $160 into a $400 pot on the flop. How often would you do that with this flop texture? And are you betting $160 with 100% of your 3-betting range?

Time Link to 00:23:51

On the right table if the 9h rolls off on the turn and he bets $500, what are you doing?

Awesome video.

This is probably in the "it depends" category but:

You are talking about the 38% limit where you don't worry about adjusting your standard open pre-flop because it will be +EV.

So when you have the BB do you try to play more than 38% or do you just accept that you are OOP and you are "supposed" to lose money from that position? (Hope the question made sense

This is probably in the "it depends" category but:

You are talking about the 38% limit where you don't worry about adjusting your standard open pre-flop because it will be +EV.

So when you have the BB do you try to play more than 38% or do you just accept that you are OOP and you are "supposed" to lose money from that position? (Hope the question made sense

you were right: it depends. ideally, you wouldn't be getting exploited but some people play too well in position post-flop for you to do much about the fact that they have the button

Around minute 43 you comment about your play, saying that you "should take more aggressive lines in single raised pots, because WiltonTilt was betting a lot, cb roughly 60%, barreling quite often, and I wasn't doing much to slow him down", and that you should do more ch-raising and slowplaying on the flop.
Could you elaborate on why?
Was it because cb 60% is too much and therefore a leak? but if that is the case shouldn't we want to encourage our opponent to keep doing it?
or was it because cb 60% is optimal and we want our opponent to stop it?

Also, you are actually cb more, around 68% (64 and 73), does that means that WiltonTilt is doing a worse job on this than you?
what should he be doing about this? (your cb 68%) and why?

Great video by the way.
Thanks.

Time Link to 00:09:50

What hand will u call vs river bet? U'll 3bet AJ, maybe even AT; 3bet sets and dopers on turn. So there is no hand at all that u will call. I think u have to make crying call with at list AT, A9.

Time Link to 00:14:58

Will u float all made hands on the flop? With what hand will u check the flop and play the turn? Kind of Adxd, Kdxd, good 8x or week Jx?