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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by DeathDonkey (Mid Stakes)

Time Link to 00:27:45

lol I love this bit of the conversation:

DD: So you cap 66 here?

OTR: (Puts on Matter of Fact voice)Yes

DD: Oh ok.

Great vid so far and I've not been whooped for any comments yet

Time Link to 00:29:08

Oi No fair about not giving us THAT read in the thread

Naughty Donkey/Elephant/whatever animal posted it

Great vids guys, very enjoyable and some really fun spots

1st hand)
i like what otr is saying re: the KQ hand about my flop raise helping my opponent to define my range. if i had called flop and turn i'm not sure if river bluffraise would have occurred to me, but now that you guys have mentioned it i think it puts my opponent in really a gross spot with some of his range in such a large pot

2nd hand)
i definitely agree that the 66 hand was spew. in retrospect i prefer not capping preflop. as played i prefer straight up folding the flop to doing all that stuff that i did i think it's a great example of how a hand can get away from you once you bloat it and then just decide to win -this pot right now-

but i think probably against this aggro guy, call flop call turn decide on river (assuming safe cards come) is also great

3rd hand)
i was planning to raise basically all turns with this TT and then the 9 coming again froze me, and i think irrationally i thought 'wow he had top pair and now he pulled ahead,' instead of thinking that combo-wise i still beat loads of stuff. DD you make a good point that he shouldn't have all that many 9x hands in his pf3b range relative to the rest of his range.

4th hand)
meh i'd still feel pretty gross calling here with 88. does the 8h make a significant different for you on the flop? i felt like even though he was laggy i overrepped my hand a bit pf and he's aggro and still donked out no problem. i feel like a huge fraction of the deck, twice, is a scare card that i wouldn't be able to play well on. good point chris: i didn't even think that i had the backdoor quads draw

hand 5)
AKcc - totally read-based hand - i'm hoping to put in a lot of action on flop and turn. DD - that is my note, yes. agree that that river bet would be thin vs a lot of players.

hand 6)
i don't know if this is sub-optimal but often i will cap a street planning just to call down if donked into on the next street. i think we're all used to just calling the river with a very strong non-nut hand if we cap the turn and they donk the river into us, since that's almost always the nuts. here i felt like i had so much equity on this flop that i was happy to jam it, with the understanding that if he donks turn i know exactly what's up.

i think i disagree with DD on part of this one - i don't think i get checkraised on this turn really ever against this player type. he 3bet the bb pre and donk3bet the flop. he probably thinks i have a flush draw a lot. i think he will donk the turn almost always with a made hand, reasoning that he wants to put a bet in, get value, and deny a free card. i absolutely agree if he's capable of checkraising the turn then i should think about altering my flop line. i also think if he's capable of checkraising the turn then maybe we can argue that the pf/flop would have played out differently, since maybe then he's capable of flatting pre or c/r the flop

hand 7)
yea some kind of converter goof or whatever - i was definitely the button, or in position or whatever, which is part of the reason i capped this 77 pf. i think this one is one of the most standard ones of the bunch. i don't want to raise the turn and deal with getting 3bet.

hand 8)
good point re: not capping pf based on opponent's stats. it is one of my balancing/wider range type of capping hands in a lot of spots but i don't need to be doing it against this guy, definitely.

lol I love this bit of the conversation:

DD: So you cap 66 here?

OTR: (Puts on Matter of Fact voice)Yes

DD: Oh ok.

Great vid so far and I've not been whooped for any comments yet

i laughed at this part too. great analysis guys - i really enjoyed it and i have a lot of stuff to think about. thanks!

19 kb/s dl speed ??

Time Link to 00:23:05

Hey Death Donkey, you're right, waiting till the turn is correct and I'll usually do that. I was more pointing out that it was odd that he's raising these incredibly marginal hands on the flop.

At microstakes, there's also value vs. worse pocket pairs who will donk/call/donk.

Time Link to 00:46:04

If you notice, the second part of my comment was, "I think postflop is standard" and I was really only pointing out how lightly we were raising in the first two examples.

Time Link to 00:10:41

Yeah I leveled myself here. I just put him on lots of the weaker pairs in his range when he takes this line on flop and turn, on the river I still think he will bet with those but agree that he doesn't fold to a raise after we raised the flop the A is just a brick.

Had we peeled flop and turn as I would it's a different story.

Time Link to 00:43:18

Yeah I totally agree.

I think that on a no cap site, we should call the 3bet and calldown UI.

Great vid!

Liked the discussion on not trying to outaggro aggro/annoying LAGs (awesome reads BBB!)

What is a good default capping range from BTN vs SB? Example:
88+,A9s+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,ATo+,KQo?
Too loose, too tight or poorly balanced?

The psychology in this spot is sometimes different than a normal donk. The reason is that the betting was capped pf so this may be just a delayed pf 5-bet. Timing tells sometimes give this away when opp donk "before" the flop has landed.

Great vid!

Liked the discussion on not trying to outaggro aggro/annoying LAGs (awesome reads BBB!)

What is a good default capping range from BTN vs SB? Example:
88+,A9s+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,ATo+,KQo?
Too loose, too tight or poorly balanced?

The psychology in this spot is sometimes different than a normal donk. The reason is that the betting was capped pf so this may be just a delayed pf 5-bet. Timing tells sometimes give this away when opp donk "before" the flop has landed.

I think that's a bit too tight, especially in termms of pairs and broadway offsuit hands.

I think that's a bit too tight, especially in termms of pairs and broadway offsuit hands.

Hmmm wow! Do u think this strategy may be a lot more profitable for u than what is for me? When u bloat the pot with medioce hands u must feel comfortable to re-bluff more frequently post-flop?

Would be interesting to hear what DD thinks also because he's more passive/reasonable than u are(?) and I think my overall strategy is very DD-fied .

This reminds me of BB vs SB. Some players like KPR (at least he did it for some time) don't 3-bet anything from BB. One advantage of not putting in the pf re-raise is the difficult turn spot ur opponent will get into (at one point KPR never raised the flop either). Many players play that very poorly (aka barrel 100%).

I guess the best thing I could do would be to experiment some with a more liberal capping strategy on my own.