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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by tubasteve (Micro/Small Stakes)

been waiting all morning for this

That makes two of us.

Great series! Very basic, but i really enjoyed watching it.

(HU) When facing a LP open raise from a player with a wide range you mention we should fold 33 in the blinds.

What is the range of small pairs we should be folding here?

Should we be calling with BW hands against this type of player?


When we get 3Bet

I don't remember this being discussed in the video, only watched it once though so could be wrong. I should add the power point section came up at the end, but it was said that this was already discussed. Perhaps I did just miss this.

With QQ-AA/AK it looks like we are 4betting and getting it in preflop or postflop (when called), with the exception of when our 4bet is called and we whiff with AK. When playing FR my 4Bet size was 2.5x, any reason to change this?



Thanks to this video I'm feeling a little less clueless now with how to play 6max. Looking forward to the next installment of this series.

Solid second video. Nice to see some actual poker. Really goes along well with the Real Life: uNL Grinder series.

hey posted this also in the 2+2 forums, but i'd really be interested seeing this issue into your next video by saying more than just 2/3 sentences to it, because it's knowing when to protect a hand and when to keep the pot small w/ a marginal hand is so important.
So when do you protect your hand and when do you check to keep the pot small?
Do you have a certain guideline, like "the majority of my opponent's hand shouldn't have more than 6outs".
I think it's the one of the biggest reasons for spewing... not understanding the protection/pot control issue.
In my opinion pot control gets much more important when you have two pair+ hands and the majority of your opponent's range has more 5+ outs.
But maybe im sooo wrong. I just wanted to hear some opinions, preferable of some seniors who already grasped the matter.
So.. playing big pots with big hands and small pots w/ small hands is easier said than done. How do you apply it to real life and are there any rules of thumb which help you when it comes to deciding when to bet to not give freecards costs you actually more money than just checking and giving the (small) hand up when the draw completes?
Looking forward to it, either as your comment or maybe even in your next vid.
Thank you!

by pot control do you mean keeping the pot small? b/c why would we want to do that with 2-pair, especially when we think our opponent has a draw? number of outs really has nothing to do with it. never fear, the entire 3rd episode is going to be on flop play and we will devote plenty of time to turn/river also.

yeah keeping the pot small is one part of pot control which I struggle with.
I know that i have to protect my two pair on a drawy board, but what about let's say weaker hands on not so drawy boards. Where is the point where protection gets more important than pot control or vice versa?
That's what i wanted to know.

i'd suggest making a separate thread in beginner/ssnl so we don't derail this thread, but overall "betting for protection" isnt really something i do often at all...its either for value or as a bluff for the most part. i the whole concept of "protecting your hand" is just a fancy way of saying valuebetting anyway.

Great job guys. I have a question about the the section discussing blind play. You brought up playing 33 against a tag open raising OTB, and suggested folding. How often do you 3bet small pairs in that situation, when the tag open raises?

Thanks!!!

You kind of discussed it but if you want to say something before upcoming episodes, cool!!

In regards to the Tight/Passive 20/12 or so stat, you mentioned a few times that this might be common of full ring players moving to 6max. Is a style like this better in full ring than 6max, or is it just not optimal in FR as well? I tend to try to raise most pots I'm in when playing full ring, but I'll limp behind several limpers with a hand like 44 or call a raise with implieds with it, and that seems to cause my avg. VPIP/PFR to be something like 16/10 or so. Is it going to be more optimal in micro-stakes Full Ring to have a very close VPIP/PFR like 6max? I ask because it seems like there's a lot of value in seeing flops with multiple players with small PP's and SC's at these stakes where players never fold TP type hands. Is this gap still a leak in full ring?

Sorry to derail a bit to Full Ring, I just wanted to ask since you guys were making the comparisons between the two as far as the tagfish stat goes.

In regards to the Tight/Passive 20/12 or so stat, you mentioned a few times that this might be common of full ring players moving to 6max. Is a style like this better in full ring than 6max, or is it just not optimal in FR as well? I tend to try to raise most pots I'm in when playing full ring, but I'll limp behind several limpers with a hand like 44 or call a raise with implieds with it, and that seems to cause my avg. VPIP/PFR to be something like 16/10 or so. Is it going to be more optimal in micro-stakes Full Ring to have a very close VPIP/PFR like 6max? I ask because it seems like there's a lot of value in seeing flops with multiple players with small PP's and SC's at these stakes where players never fold TP type hands. Is this gap still a leak in full ring?

Sorry to derail a bit to Full Ring, I just wanted to ask since you guys were making the comparisons between the two as far as the tagfish stat goes.

yeah full ring your VPIP/PFR should be farther apart, and you can play more hands for implied odds. you arent isolating as much, you are limping behind limpers like you said, etc. in a 6-max game if your vpip and pfr stray more than a few % points from each other you probably are playing too passively preflop.

Great job guys. I have a question about the the section discussing blind play. You brought up playing 33 against a tag open raising OTB, and suggested folding. How often do you 3bet small pairs in that situation, when the tag open raises?

Thanks!!!

for the purposes of our basic strategy, never. again this is kinda designed for rank beginners that don't need to be 3-betting stuff like 33 OOP b/c it will cause them to lose tons of money. but to answer your question i usually just use "fold to 3-bet" and if I haven't been too active and the guys number is above 60 I'll go for it occasionally. i much prefer 3-betting light as a squeeze than in HU pots though.

for the purposes of our basic strategy, never. again this is kinda designed for rank beginners that don't need to be 3-betting stuff like 33 OOP b/c it will cause them to lose tons of money. but to answer your question i usually just use "fold to 3-bet" and if I haven't been too active and the guys number is above 60 I'll go for it occasionally. i much prefer 3-betting light as a squeeze than in HU pots though.

yeah i'd agree with all of this. we're trying to keep people out of situations where they can make huge postflop mistakes - oop with 33 in a 3-bet pot seems like one to me - so we'd advise to just pitch them every time. As Steve said, once you open up, they're good hands to 3-bet against people who fold to a lot of 3-bets, or people who call 3-bets and fold the flop a lot.

1) Are you adjusting the size of your 3bets based on stack size? Say you have KK and a 50BB stack from UTG raises, are you going with the standard 3bet size or adjusting it a bit up or down? How does this change if effective stacks are 20BB's? 200BB's? Does this change at all if these stack sizes raise from LP and you are IP? (Assume this is all HU)

2)How does this change if you are in the blinds with KK against very deep (250+ BBs) raiser, deep enough that a 5x 3Bet does not kill implieds and the BU still has plenty of room to maneuver post-flop? Do you bet the standard for value, or attempt to control the size of the pot since you're deep OOP?

Thanks, already looking forward to next week.

Great series. Brand new to DC and I am indeed starting from the ground up on my 6max game. Thanks so much for this series its already helped my game by tightening up in 6max a bit, had three nice wins already since watching these.

Here's another stupid question... n0whereman, you've heard this before, but I don't know if we ever settled on an answer

Exactly what is a preflop pot-size bet? If you're opening or raising limpers then it's the standard 3.5-4bb + 1bb per limper, but what if there's significant action in front of you?

I don't suppose this is a big deal... I can just continue to hit the "bet pot" button and adjust accordingly... this is more out of curiosity really.

Exactly what is a preflop pot-size bet?

I'll use two example to explain. First, a limped pot: Say the blinds are 1/2, and you are OTB with AA. UTG and MP limp, and then it folds to you. If you want to make a pot-sized raise, first add up the total amount of money in the pot (at this point, $7). Now add to that the amount you would put in to match the big blind (another $2, so the pot is now 9). This amount (9), is the amount that you can raise if you are making a pot-sized raise. So if you are going to raise 9 on top (of your call), you would make it 11 total to make a pot-sized raise after 2 limpers. If there was one limper it'd be 9, and with 3 limpers it's 13.

A 3-bet example: Assume the same blind structure, and now you have AA in the BB. Folds to the button who makes it 7, and the SB folds. Here, the amount in the pot when it gets to you is 7+1+2=10. For you to match button's raise, you'd have to put in 5 more, so the total pot you would be raising is 15. 15+5=20, so you would make it 20 more (meaning 20 on top of the $2 big blind you've already put in) to make a pot-sized raise. If the SB calls, then your PSR is 26 on top of your BB.

Those aren't the most concise explanations ever, but hopefully it still makes sense.

I have 2 questions to your video.

In the 33 example: why not call for implied odds - just because BTN range is wide ?

I play 5 max games at Ongame and the Boss network (no 6. max).

So, preflop do i just play UTG like MP (raising with ATo) ?

I have 2 questions to your video.

In the 33 example: why not call for implied odds - just because BTN range is wide ?

yep pretty much. i go through some quick estimates regarding this in another vid thread, perhaps video 5?

I play 5 max games at Ongame and the Boss network (no 6. max).

So, preflop do i just play UTG like MP (raising with ATo) ?

more or less. you should also be opening up your game a bit more when IP since others should be playing looser overall as well. and you might have to play from the blinds more often.

Hey guys I'd just like to say a huge thankyou for producing this series. I've been playing for 2 months now and have spent hundreds of hours trying to develop a winning game even at the small stakes - until now it's all been in vein.

Well I sat down with your series recently for a few hours making detailed notes (I'm upto video 2) and that in itself has completely transformed my game.

I've now got the confidence to know I can on the whole beat the micro stake game now and it's thanks to your series! so a huge thankyou!!!!!!

one thing I didn't quite get was the big blind comments.

when are you in position in the big blind? and when are you out of position?

thanks!

one thing I didn't quite get was the big blind comments.

when are you in position in the big blind? and when are you out of position?

thanks!

you are only in position in the BB if it folds around to the small blind. but say UTG up through BU raise, whether SB calls or not you are going to be OOP against the preflop raiser.

glad you are enjoying the series

I noticed that Ace-Ten(o) isn't included in the CO range is this just because it's assumed you use it as it's in the earlier range or is there a reason for leaving A-T(o) out of the CO. Thanks again

Great series! Very basic, but i really enjoyed watching it.

Well it is called "from the ground up"

Guys,

Thanks for the great series: I'm really enjoying it.

I noticed you left out Broadway hands from the Button unraised pot hand range. Was that intentional and if so why?

Thanks
Ralph

Guys,

Thanks for the great series: I'm really enjoying it.

I noticed you left out Broadway hands from the Button unraised pot hand range. Was that intentional and if so why?

Thanks
Ralph

You definitely should be raising any 2 broadway from the button.

Thanks Steve.

I'm playing at Svenska Spel(Boss client) and there's 5-max not 6-max. Should my handranges be the same or should I play a bit more aggro?

I'm playing at Svenska Spel(Boss client) and there's 5-max not 6-max. Should my handranges be the same or should I play a bit more aggro?

then just drop the UTG portion of the chart. so when you are UTG in your games you are in MP in the 6-max game.

I have never ever played in a 6 max game, only full ring. This series is my introduction to 6max. I have enjoyed the first 2 videos very much and look forward to the rest of the series.

I have 1 question. I want to make sure I have this right. Did you say when 3 betting in the blinds or oop to raise a bit more than 3x pre flop raise + 1bb because putting more money in pf helps negate some of his positional advantage ?? if this is correct, how much more should i be 3 betting when oop ??

thanks.... i hope that made sense..

Thanks

There is an error with the ipod version of this vid. The audio cuts out around 3/4 way through

There is an error with the ipod version of this vid. The audio cuts out around 3/4 way through

Yeah. I just had the same exact issue at about 41:32, the audio is completely gone. I downloaded a few times and have tried it on both my phone and my computer.

Yeah. I just had the same exact issue at about 41:32, the audio is completely gone. I downloaded a few times and have tried it on both my phone and my computer.

Updated with a new file and seems to work better on my end.

Rob

yeah full ring your VPIP/PFR should be farther apart, and you can play more hands for implied odds.

I play mostly full-ring at these limits and am deriving knowledge from your outstanding video. In low stakes full-ring, what do you feel is a solid ballpark ratio for tight, agressive pre-flop play?

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viewing this in July 2009 - slides do not seem to be progressing with audio?? If it's my lack of tech skill - plz advise. Thanks.

Really great video!
Not sure if you guys still watch these comments but I'll ask anyway.

Concerning the fold 33 to BTN raise;
I played with PokerStove a bit and against BTN's range we start to be favorite with 66+, AT+, A9s+ and KQs. Would you recommend 3betting these hands or just calling? Obviously we would raise the top of that range but what about 66-77 and A9s?

Thank you for the video.
(edit: watching this series with the free flash weekend, you both did a good job at convincing me to get a subscription)

the hand ranges u recommended are kinda rigid?u didnt mention much on adjusting ur hand ranges according to opponent's stack sizes and player stats like opening up ur range when sitting with a bunch of nits or tightening up against loose maniacs and what hands to substitute against short stackers.

Also u might want to try writing a guide or a compact script cause u guys are like MCs or something and the video kind of dragged on

the hand ranges u recommended are kinda rigid?u didnt mention much on adjusting ur hand ranges according to opponent's stack sizes and player stats like opening up ur range when sitting with a bunch of nits or tightening up against loose maniacs and what hands to substitute against short stackers.

Also u might want to try writing a guide or a compact script cause u guys are like MCs or something and the video kind of dragged on

its a beginner video, you're clearly correct that in your actual play you need to learn to deal with table dynamics, but you have to walk before you can run.

So I'm a new guy for the most part, especially to cash games. I've done decently well in 1.10 45man turbo SNG, and cashed (not big) in some large MTT's. I implemented what I learned in the first two videos of this series.... 30 mins of 10NL 6Max later (3 tables) and I'm up $40. Good work guys.

--Ben

Hey. I'm a beginner and just started watching this series, I like it so far!

I have some doubts figuring out the exact hand ranges you guys are proposing though. I created a chart in Excel with all the hand ranges in the various positions and situations you mentioned. Would you please be so kind to review this chart and correct it where needed? This would not only be useful for me, but also for everyone else watching these series.

You can download the chart HERE.

Hey guys I dont remember what u said on what the size of the 4 bet should be is it 3x the 3 bet or a % of pot and also for balance what should I be light 3 betting w/ Billy Jex says 76s does he mean 76s+ or just that particular hand (not sure if u guys are familiar w/ his ebook). Also should I ever just flat call a 3 bet as I see u say never flat a 4 bet? Anyway TY gr8 series

Thanks Guys,

Just returning to NL after a few months playing Limit.

One question are the ranges still ok for todays 10NL,25NL,& 50 NL

I know it's only a year since this was made, but a few limit videos I had watched on differnt sites had become outdated pretty fast.

Also are there and scripts to use on stars for pot size bets etc? as I'ts a pain in the ass when playing a number of tables.

Hope that makes sense

Thanks again

This was very helpful for me!
Thank you guys!

nice and basic but liked it

Sorry if this is a really dumb question...

But at about 26:54 you have the slide on Blind play in an limped pot.

So in the Small Blind, You say that if there ARE limpers... complete with suited broadway, (and other stuff) and raise the rest of your UTG range...by which I think you mean pairs 99s and up...

So to confirm... are you saying we're just going to be completing if we wake up with AKs in the SB with limpers...not raising?

As a followup question... there's also some unsuited broadway in our UTG range... so we're completing with suited broadway... and you say to raise the rest of your UTG range... that is the pairs I mentioned above... and AKo, AQo, AJo, and KQo...

Is that what you mean to say? Feels odd. I'm crap though so I'm assuming you have a reasoning for this that I'm too noob to have understood.

Sorry if this is a really dumb question...

But at about 26:54 you have the slide on Blind play in an limped pot.

So in the Small Blind, You say that if there ARE limpers... complete with suited broadway, (and other stuff) and raise the rest of your UTG range...by which I think you mean pairs 99s and up...

So to confirm... are you saying we're just going to be completing if we wake up with AKs in the SB with limpers...not raising?

As a followup question... there's also some unsuited broadway in our UTG range... so we're completing with suited broadway... and you say to raise the rest of your UTG range... that is the pairs I mentioned above... and AKo, AQo, AJo, and KQo...

Is that what you mean to say? Feels odd. I'm crap though so I'm assuming you have a reasoning for this that I'm too noob to have understood.

go with your intuition. it would be pretty silly to limp one of the best hands in holdem. in fact i recommend raising a much wider range in the blinds to most of my students than we discuss in this video, but that requires a bit more postflop skill than we are assuming the watchers of this video have.

in fact i recommend raising a much wider range in the blinds to most of my students than we discuss in this video

ya pretty sure we talk about this in one of the later episodes.

Yeah I thought so... seemed a bit twilight zone... Just thought I'd check...

Thanks guys.

Awsome video. Really wanted to rewatch the video to improve my blind play wich needs help Asap lol. I was wondering if you could elaborate on playing the marginal hands in the blinds like KQo,Ajs etc(DOES IT DIFFER MULTIWAY ?)
My assumption is that we can flat against bad players all day, but vs Good tags tight UTG range, we should probably be folding to avoid bad spots OOP? Another example, say Decent TAg opens Utg were in the Sb with AQo, whats your prefered line here?

Just wanted to thank you guys for this, Im a complete newbie to the game, had a few good hands at a casino and thought I was a "Natural" now I realize how much I have to learn.

Videos like this are a huge boon to those of us trying to sift through all the stuff out there and get to some of the basics.

Amazing video.

feel like this may be dumb question but what is pre flop and post flop mean? I like a lot of the information you covered in the video, there was a lot introduced, i probably have other questions but that will be it for now

feel like this may be dumb question but what is pre flop and post flop mean? I like a lot of the information you covered in the video, there was a lot introduced, i probably have other questions but that will be it for now

pre-flop = before the flop. So all the limping/betting/raising that happens before the flop is dealt.

postflop = after the flop is dealt. So the flop, turn and river.

In the video, if there's a raise in early position, you suggest hero can call in the big blind with pockets because implied odds become more profitable if hero sits a set and villain will stack off because he's playing a tighter range of hands. So, say if hero makes it three times the blind in the cut off and villain in the small blind 3 bets it, should hero call because of the potential implied odds?

Well to answer that think about what implied odds exactly are... and remember that you can only win what your villain has on the table at that moment.

So if CO raises to 3bb and SB 3bets to like 9bb or something...

Now you have to call 8bb (you've already got one on the table blind) on the chance of flopping a set.

You need to think just for a sec about flop fold equity, if you call this 3bet and the CO folds, which will happen some percentage of the time... you'll now be in position but without initiative. Depending on the opponent can you take a few pots away on the flop if he checks to you... IE, some people might 3bet preflop in the SB because they expected the CO to be raising fairly light... you get me? So if the SB was 3betting light then you might be able to take it away on the flop wihtout a set sometimes..

But that's more advanced and situational ... so lets assume that you can NEVER steal the pot on the flop against this particular villain... so you need to call his 3bet on odds to flop a set.


now that you're investing 8bb... your odds of flopping a set (or better) is about 10% so 9 times out of ten you'll lose 8bb... (IE 72bb) and 1 time out of 10 you need to win.... DING DING DING... more than 72bb.

Now, that's if you win at least 72bb EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU FLOP THE SET... IE your opponent has to find a way to put more than 72bb in the pot against you everytime you flop a set... also, some of those times you will lose the pot anyway... you'll be drawn out on...set over set... stuff like that.

This is why so many people are working so hard NOT to overestimate their implied odds. It's an easy trap to fall into.



Now you were on the right track with the thought process that because the SB <<MAY>> be repping a strong range... he's MORE likely to stack off the times that you hit a set. That's the right way to think about that part of the equation.. but for that to work, your opponent MUST still be deep enough to pay you enough when you:

1. flop it.
2. he flops enough to lots lots to you
3. he doesn't draw out on you or out flop you altogether


If you think the CO will fold and the SB only has a 100bb stack... it's usually not going to be profitable to call there.

If the CO is a massive fish who'll call the 3bet too... now you've possibly got two stacks to beat up on. THAT HELPS

If you think the SB was 3betting light to take advantage of the CO raising a wide range.. and you think you can play postflop well enough to steal some pots without a set THAT HELPS.

If you have a read on your SB that he loves to stack off with the sorts of hands he 3bets P/F... then THAT HELPS...

Thanks for the extensive response. By the way, I'm much of a beginner. So, I may ask questions that seem trivial.

Absolutely. It's certainly not a trivial question.

I a lot of people call with pocket pairs in a pot where they have no hope of getting the money when they win... to repay all that they lose when they don't hit.

Implied odds is a complex thing... and the more you look into it the more layers you can peel away...

For instance as another example... you have "better" implied odds generally on a straight draw than on a flush draw... because it's often better hidden... people looking at a board that has lots of the same suit will often just "put you on the flush" and fold... so that sort of psychological element can drastically affect whether it was correct to play the hand at all... we really do our best to quantify these sorts of odds... but when the mathematics have a variable in it's equation that refers to how an opponent will think and behave... well then the math gets a bit muddy........

Good luck.

PS, on deuces cracked everyone has a way better attitude about answering newcomers' questions than on 2+2 where they just label you a n00b and ridicule you.

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I'm learning NL and came to this video series first following a recommendation in the first episode of the Bonzai Tree series.

This FtGU Episode Two really helped me to get a basic idea of hands to play and hands to avoid. However, I struggled to get a clear set of hands from the sections explaining what to do facing a raise (from about 33:00, through to the linked section).

Given that there's a fair amount of hand-waving here (i.e. the hands to play depend on many factors) and at my stage of the game, I'm making much bigger mistakes postflop than pre, I suppose it doesn't really matter but thought I'd comment for the record.

On the plus side, the confusion prompted me to put a lot more effort into choosing a default range than I would have done had the info been easier to glean from the video. So maybe I should just say: good job!

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If you want to 3bet, but there's a coldcaller (or coldcallers) between you and the original raiser, should you add the calling amount to what you wanted to raise, or should you make it bigger than that?

we should not be allowed to watch other NL videos before this series imo.

we should not be allowed to watch other NL videos before this series imo.

Yeah this and +EVOLUTION of a poker player... should have to be watched to unlock the other series.

glad to see people are still getting a lot out of this series. just goes to show that even as games get tougher and the dynamics change, sound fundamentals are still the main key to success.

glad to see people are still getting a lot out of this series. just goes to show that even as games get tougher and the dynamics change, sound fundamentals are still the main key to success.

For sure. Thanks again. Excellent work from you guys.

Um, Tuba... May I ask,

I'm just looking again at your thoughts on opening in the BB with limpers.

What is your opinion about opening any Axs in the BB when there are limpers (high likelyhood of being OOP multiway)

Do you think it's too spewy because you'll have to fold too many flops, and flopping an Ace is going to be a gross prospect multiway with A4s...but flopping a flush-draw is going to have better implied odds in the nano-stakes where I play because so many bad players will stack off with just top pair ignoring the fact that I'm shovelling money in on the turned flush...

Can you elaborate a bit on implied odds that you talk about on your last or second to last slide I should say. I hear it thrown around a lot and have some understanding of it but not quite complete. Im not sure if there's an easy or good answer for that because I think it entails a lot, but any clarification would help.

Would 3 betting a little over pot in the blinds, or early position what we are going for?

Can you elaborate a bit on implied odds that you talk about on your last or second to last slide I should say. I hear it thrown around a lot and have some understanding of it but not quite complete. Im not sure if there's an easy or good answer for that because I think it entails a lot, but any clarification would help.

Would 3 betting a little over pot in the blinds, or early position what we are going for?

implied odds = future value. how much money you stand to win on future streets, such as if you flop your set or turn your flush or strait. it is purely theoretical, like fold equity, and can only be estimated. however, you can put a maximum on implied odds, it is the whole stack.
yes think 3betting a lil over pot OOP is exactly what we're going for.

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HEy

this video is made for 6people-tables?

Can i also use the Hand-ranges unraised, facing a raise calling ranges and so on also on a table with 9 people?

Or is it mathematicly wrong then?

Nope. Don't.

There is discussion of those starting ranges in beginner full ring videos.

Try this:

http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/13-To_Nit_or_not_to_Nit/154-Episode_One

I haven't watched this series as Full Ring makes me want to die horribly... but I'm pretty sure this is the place to start.

thank you :-)

could you also give me the link to all other episodes?

I only saw 2 eps... the link to the second is on the page of the first...

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kkk

what is proper betsizing for 4betting when we are three bet:
for blinds?
for co or btn?

Hi
I just joined. I often hear that poker evolves over time. How much of what is said here is outdated? I hope not much cause it's an awesome video
thx

PS, on deuces cracked everyone has a way better attitude about answering newcomers' questions than on 2+2 where they just label you a n00b and ridicule you.

I cannot agree more. 2+2 may be free, and they've certainly contributed a ton to the poker community overall, but wow...there ais an abundance of mean, discouraging, arrogant people on there (a certain cowboy-hat-wearing moderator included).

In retrospect, I actually wish I had discovered DC before 2+2.

Hi tubasteve and nowhereman!

I'm currently restructuring my NL cash game (been out of it for awhile and needed the basics "From the Ground Up" again anyway!).

Because this series is over three years old, how accurate are the baseline preflop opening ranges in today's games? Games are playing much more aggro and players are floating IP a bit more.

How would you recommend modifying the ranges?

Also, later in the series, do you talk about how to modify these ranges based upon the players left to act? If not, can you recommend a good series or two on this subject?

ThanX! Still a great series!

One more question: You have "4B sizing" in your powerpoint, but didn't go over it in the presentation.

What is the recommended 4B sizing for QQ+/AK?

ThanX again!

I'd suggest posting these questions in the micro stakes NL forum. Tubasteve doesn't coach anymore and I only play PLO at this point.

Hi! I just have a question about how the starting hands would be affected for me playing at a site with deep stacks 200bb... its also 5-handed.. would that make me play more speculative hands? for trapping purposes? I can also add that the most players are really bad.. loose passive kind... would that make me tight up more instead?

Sooo devastated to know that n0whereman only coaches PLO these days, now that I can finally afford to hire a coach and really wanted him as my NL coach.

By the way, these ranges are really out of date.

Opening 28% on the button is really tight.

just fyi opening 28% from the button would instantly get you marked by me as a fish if you were playing in the same games as me.

Sooo devastated to know that n0whereman only coaches PLO these days, now that I can finally afford to hire a coach and really wanted him as my NL coach.

You could always play PLO

just fyi opening 28% from the button would instantly get you marked by me as a fish if you were playing in the same games as me.

i'm sure most of this series is pure regfish talk at this point.

i'm sure most of this series is pure regfish talk at this point.

Hey, I'm pretty new to poker (at least playing poker to a degree greater than just playing cards, if you get my point) and what do you mean by this?

Are these series very outdated to watch and learn from as a new poker player wanting to play and learn 6 max NLHE cash games? If yes then are there any alternatives that you would suggest?

Any replies are highly appreciated!

@merome

I reckon take a look at this.

http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/85-The_+EVolution_of_a_Poker_Player/706-Episode_One

It's a series that will start to get you thinking about the right sorts of concepts.

From there you can branch out in a few different directions.

Thanks man, i took a brief look at the descriptions of the different parts of the series and i must say its looking really promising. Will watch them later

Appreciate the fast response!

this series are perfect to someone who is really new to poker and trying to build his game from scratch( that's me ). Also this series 5 years ago were directed to NL25 and NL50 games, now IMO this series will help you beat NL10. When you are fresh this basic stuff really helps even these days.