Time Link to 00:25:42
LOL.
I'll post results later, I don't want to influence discussion of the hand too much by posting what villain had.
Inavacuum and student continue where they left off last week reviewing micro-stakes hands.
Yin meets yang at microstakes NL. The majority of pros view micro play as extremely standard with no room for creativity. While true for the most part, not embracing nonstandard lines will leave profit on the table.
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Time Link to 00:25:42
LOL.
I'll post results later, I don't want to influence discussion of the hand too much by posting what villain had.
Time Link to 00:41:27
A few comments on how I played the hand and why:
At this point, I had no history of 3 barreling against this villain, so I thought that betting 3 streets for value might be too thin.
This is a flop that I would check back JJ/TT and Qx, so I was strengthening my check back range by having an Ax hand. At the same time I weaken my perceived range in villain's eyes, inducing bluffs. If villain checks the turn, obviously I value bet.
Time Link to 00:51:29
I don't think folding to a shove on the river is bad at 10nl, at least at the site I play at. Most players never turn made hands into a bluff on the river. Villain never slowplays a set on that board, and probably raises the turn with AQ, so his river range is Kx, QJ, QT, JT, AT, AJ and flushes. I don't think villain ever raises here without a strong flush. Most players won't realize that KQ or AJ isn't good enough to call against your range, and will just see the price they are getting on a call. They love to hero call.
If his 4bet range is only KK, AA then it's a pretty easy 3b/fold, no?
Depends on how often he calls 3 bets.
A few comments on how I played the hand and why:
At this point, I had no history of 3 barreling against this villain, so I thought that betting 3 streets for value might be too thin.
It might be it might not be, this is where you find out. The less you're going to play with the guy the less it matters, then it just becomes a debate on overall @ that site/stake/moment in the history of poker is going for thin value more profitable than not. The answer probably doesn't matter much.
If his 4bet range is only KK, AA then it's a pretty easy 3b/fold, no?
If he's folding to lots of 3bets I start to prefer to flat if there are weaker players ahead or players likely to squeeze and just 3bet him with many hands that can't call.
Time Link to 00:12:43
Do you think he ever calls 3b w AdQd and if so, is he always going to fold to your turn bet?
Do you think he ever calls 3b w AdQd and if so, is he always going to fold to your turn bet?
He definitely calls some of the time preflop and wouldn't fold the turn. He probably folds river a lot unless we have quite extensive history or he's just a station and I don't know that yet.
LOL.
I'll post results later, I don't want to influence discussion of the hand too much by posting what villain had.
SCS, not to be results oriented but are you still going to post results?
SCS, not to be results oriented but are you still going to post results?
Sure. I'll give the thread another day or two before posting.
SCS, not to be results oriented but are you still going to post results?
Villain had QQ.
Time Link to 00:21:03
betting turn to make TT-JJ, 9x fold is good imo, but thinking that people will fold Kx on river shove is spewy imo.
But when Im the BTN in this spot, I will fold KQ,KJ vs the rivershove because I think that people will bluf turn to make 9x,TT,JJ fold, but won't bluf river enough. But thinking that other players will fold Kx is spewy imo.
So I only think you can bluf river to make Kx fold if you think a BTN reg will think this way and when being readless that is so hard to estimate. Maybe I will start 3barreling here if I had in a previous hand in somewhat same spot AA and played bet bet bet and he folded to rivershove. When already having a high fold to flop + turn cbet on him in 3bet pots, so it would be probably a folded Kx on river.
Villain had QQ.
gefeliciteerd we hebben een Nederlander minder met overspanning rondlopen![]()
He definitely calls some of the time preflop and wouldn't fold the turn. He probably folds river a lot unless we have quite extensive history or he's just a station and I don't know that yet.
Agree,
but I said in that other spot I dont expect people to fold Kx on river, it kinda fight each other, because it is somewhat the same spot. But I think when the both broadways are on the flop (like here with the A and Q) people are likely to give a lot more respect with Qx, because they have also Ax to call down in their range, and in that other spot is Qx the top of their range mostly, do you agree with this thoughprocess?
gefeliciteerd we hebben een Nederlander minder met overspanning rondlopen
From google translate: congratulations we have a Dutchman less running around with surge
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