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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by inavacuum (Micro/Small Stakes)

HUD layout:

VPIP/PFR/3bet/Squeeze/Fold to 3bet/AF
Fold to flop CB/Fold to turn CB/Flop CB/Turn CB/Donk flop

Nice vid.

Meh, don't rly think this was good content. This Nick-guy doesn't add anything to the video, there's no conversation about the hands, it's just inavacuum giving his thoughts about these hands. Nick simply agrees with everything inavacuum says and at least for me it was rly tough to find any usable ideas/thoughts/lines from this vid.



The J9o hand on 954ss, 9s board:

You made the assumption that villain isn't c/ring here as a bluff, so i don't rly see any point in checking back. Your flop range construction seems to lack stuff like 7s7x, 6s6x, As5x, T8 etc. I don't think that your assumption of villain's range being strong in this spot is rly spot on. I'm not confident that if you want to check a street in this hand, it's the turn you should be checking.

Meh, don't rly think this was good content. This Nick-guy doesn't add anything to the video, there's no conversation about the hands, it's just inavacuum giving his thoughts about these hands. Nick simply agrees with everything inavacuum says and...

I found Nick agreed less than the majority of contributors. It's difficult to find a contributor that everyone is going to think is ideal, that's why I've tried to use many different people. I think Nick did a great job and I'm thankful for his help. Of course, anyone is entitled to disagree.

The J9o hand on 954ss, 9s board:

You made the assumption that villain isn't c/ring here as a bluff, so i don't rly see any point in checking back.

That doesn't allow us to get any value on the river. If villain isn't CR bluffing we can bet/fold, sure. But we also lose potential value on the next street. It's the same thing as raise/folding a pair on the flop for information. Functional, yet ultimately pointless.

Your flop range construction seems to lack stuff like 7s7x, 6s6x, As5x, T8 etc. I don't think that your assumption of villain's range being strong in this spot is rly spot on. I'm not confident that if you want to check a street in this hand, it's the turn you should be checking

I would be amazed if hands like T8o and A5o are in his flop donking range. I doubt they are even in his preflop calling range. If he did lead the flop with a pair he's turning into a bluff, which is not impossible, he never takes this river line often enough for it to matter. I think we will have to agree to disagree about what his leading range without the means to prove either range.

Thank you for the feedback, please continue to provide it.

Meh, don't rly think this was good content. This Nick-guy doesn't add anything to the video, there's no conversation about the hands, it's just inavacuum giving his thoughts about these hands. Nick simply agrees with everything inavacuum says and at least for me it was rly tough to find any usable ideas/thoughts/lines from this vid.

Wow, with the risk of sounding like a huge kiss ass, i'm gonna disagree.
Is kinda funny you should mention this, as I was watching the episode earlier at work, and thought to myself that I was going to post in the video thread, that I thought that Nick is doing a great job, because he asks alot more than the earlier contributors, as they were students of Tim, and we as students tend to agree, or at least not ask to many questions as we haven't developed our game enough to ask the right questions as they arise.

In the KQ hand at around 40:00 (hero has KQo on Qc5c8c in a 3-bet pot), you say that we "want him to shove" with a hand like AJ with one club after we raise villain's cbet. This seems bad, so I just stoved it, and it turns out AJ with one club has about 46% equity against us, while he would only need 41% for a shove to be break-even when called by our hand every time. So obviously we should want AJ with one club to fold if we were to raise. So obviously raising is bad. Flatting seems MUCH better: like you said, villain will barrel any turn with air, so why not just flat and then win another bet on the turn 80% of the time? Plus this way we can get away from the hand when a club comes instead of stacking off.

edit: I posted this before I saw the results of the hand and that you actually stoved it yourself. I still maintain that flatting the flop is much better. It seems like you sometimes (not only in this hand) try to make excuses about why you are right and are quick to dismiss your student's skepticism. (I am not trying to be mean, just posting my view!)

a little disappointed with DC's quality control here

In the KQ hand at around 40:00 (hero has KQo on Qc5c8c in a 3-bet pot), you say that we "want him to shove" with a hand like AJ with one club after we raise villain's cbet. This seems bad, so I just stoved it, and it turns out AJ with one club has about 46% equity against us, while he would only need 41% for a shove to be break-even when called by our hand every time. So obviously we should want AJ with one club to fold if we were to raise. So obviously raising is bad. Flatting seems MUCH better: like you said, villain will barrel any turn with air, so why not just flat and then win another bet on the turn 80% of the time? Plus this way we can get away from the hand when a club comes instead of stacking off.

I possibly explained my thoughts somewhat poorly, but I believe villain is going to shove every single hand he's betting the flop with if we raise this amount on the flop, which is very close to if not 100% of the range he 3bets. If that is true then compared to calling him down raising becomes somewhat better. If his range is X and we raise, he will shove with 100% of X. If his range is X and we call, his range is still 100% of X when he bets the turn and still 100% of X IF he bets the river - only he doesn't always bet the river, and we're now behind more often - plus we get to the river far less often. If villain has AxJc 100% of the time, then I agree with you.

I am not advocating that raising this flop is the standard best line. I am advocating it as being most profitable vs that villain that time.

edit: I posted this before I saw the results of the hand and that you actually stoved it yourself. I still maintain that flatting the flop is much better. It seems like you sometimes (not only in this hand) try to make excuses about why you are right and are quick to dismiss your student's skepticism. (I am not trying to be mean, just posting my view!)

Please provide all examples of where this happens so that I can make sure it isn't happening - and if it is so that I can make amends, because this is would be extremely bad if it were the case. Re "being mean", as long as people comment their earnest views politely then anything goes: If you think I've got something wrong then I will examine it carefully.

That doesn't allow us to get any value on the river. If villain isn't CR bluffing we can bet/fold, sure. But we also lose potential value on the next street. It's the same thing as raise/folding a pair on the flop for information. Functional, yet ultimately pointless.

It's pointless only if he never c/c with a worse hand, which i think is more likely to happen than him c/c river with worse hand. Also, there's not much point in checking back the turn, if we're always folding to any normal sized bet. Also, if he's not 3betting 99, there's decent chance that he's got stuff like JJ/TT in his leading range which for sure aren't folding turn especially if he's got a spade with those.


And no, i don't think it's necessarily good to c/c turn with like TsTx but ppl do it all the time on this limit.

We are not folding to all bet sizes. Some sizes give us the correct odds to call. I have said in the past that sometimes this does not matter, and that is true, but in this case with the information we have, or lack thereof, getting the correct odds can be a great thing. I think villain can bluff or even bet worse for value on the river, but is almost never doing either of those things via the overbet.

You comment about him possibly having TT/JJ. I agree that this is possible. I do not think the fact that someone might flat 99 means they don't 3bet JJ, but that is a separate issue. If he has TT/JJ, he will peel the turn and not the river and he will not overbet the river if he chooses to bet it when Hero checks back the turn. If he checks the turn and it is checked back and he checks the river, he will then call Hero's value bet. Hero ends up earning the same from TT/JJ, only villain can bluff slightly more often.

i got a different question:
this video is on pkr, right?
do u have a hud there, or did u just import the hands?
and if u got a hud, how did u do it?
thanks

Wow. I am really disappointed with the quality of this video and of deuces cracked as a whole so far. The KQo hand around 40 mins is atrocious. I have gotten several second opinions of this hand from friends who are very good and they agree raising is bad. Where is the quality control? Also I disagree with inavacuum's response to whatwonder. Vilan is not shoving hands without a club that missed. Also KhQs on that board vs TT+ AT+ and KJ+ which is 9.5% of hands is only 56%, when vilan folds some of his bad hands. Vilan probably isn't even 3betting that wide when you look at positions. Also even if vilan jams every club or top pair or better we are only 39%.

How do you respond to that?

Wow. I am really disappointed with the quality of this video and of deuces cracked as a whole so far. The KQo hand around 40 mins is atrocious. I have gotten several second opinions of this hand from friends who are very good and they agree raising is bad. Where is the quality control? Also I disagree with inavacuum's response to whatwonder. Vilan is not shoving hands without a club that missed. Also KhQs on that board vs TT+ AT+ and KJ+ which is 9.5% of hands is only 56%, when vilan folds some of his bad hands. Vilan probably isn't even 3betting that wide when you look at positions. Also even if vilan jams every club or top pair or better we are only 39%.

How do you respond to that?

I haven't seen anything from this entire series but your comment made me watch the hand in question since this series has been getting very good feedback as far as I know so I got curious.

I think his assumptions about our equity were too optimistic (us being a big favourite vs pair+FD), but the play would be good if the assumptions are true. We're flipping or behind in reality mostly so unless villain is shoving stuff like Ax no club too, calling is better imo. He also said he'd call AcQx, which seems inconsistent with raising KQ. Calling and getting it in on a brick turn when we have 75% instead of 50% vs draws is a lot better imo.

Re the DC as a whole thing: Coaches quite frequently disagree with eachother on certain topics yet both can be winning players. If you don't like the content of a particular coach, simply don't watch videos by that coach. DC has a library of over a thousand videos (I think) from many different coaches.

Yes I agree with you fully. I think my post may have been slightly harsh and over aggressive. I also much prefer calling and getting it in on good turns.

Vilan is not shoving hands without a club that missed.

I know the villian, and he definitely is. Hence the raise.

Also KhQs on that board vs TT+ AT+ and KJ+ which is 9.5% of hands is only 56%, when vilan folds some of his bad hands.

This villain is never folding his bad hands.

Vilan probably isn't even 3betting that wide when you look at positions.

I think he 3bets different people a different amount in different positions. Obviously we wouldn't want to be as robotic as to look at his 3bet vs position X and assume that's how much he's 3betting us.

I also much prefer calling and getting it in on good turns.

I prefer that line vs many people.

i got a different question:
this video is on pkr, right?
do u have a hud there, or did u just import the hands?
and if u got a hud, how did u do it?
thanks

Yes it is. I didn't use a HUD.

Time Link to 00:04:18

http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/12571-Episode-Fifteen?seek=258

You said that people don`t c/r this board so it`s good for us to Vbet . If Villain will raise let`s say to $32 are you calling?? I`m asking because this is a big leak for me…….. I don`t Vbet enough and when I do if I get c/raised I call a lot and I fold later after his ¾ bet on the river ……. Not always but most of the time.


I think Hero is 65% to 35% ahead vs Villains hand range. So Villain will win almost 2 to 5 times….. I believe that if he c/r also the TURN and BET the river he can make Hero fold another 2 to 3 times……
How many combos does Villain get to by the Turn?? I believe with many……. 180 combos???:
•??-66, ?Ts-A6s,KQs, KTs-K6s,QTs-Q7s, T8s+,98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, 54s, AQo, ATo-A7o,KQo, KTo, QTo, T9o
The Q card on the turn I believe hits Villain`s hand range a lot (gives him a lot of equity) and except that he can be ahead already with many combos:
•66 (3), 88 (3), TT (3), AQ (12), KQ (12), QTs (2), T8s (2), 68s (2), these are 38 combos of his 180 (20%)

From Villains point of view….
How many combos does Hero Cb the Turn?? 250 combos??? :
•66+, ?7s, K7s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, 54s, A7o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo
How many combos is HERO actually folding after a c/r TURN & a River Bet from Villain?? Maybe more than 180 combos.... So more than 2/3 times he wins again!! So if I`m villain is this a nice spot for me to bluff??

Thanks for your help!! Great series!!

I think you need to think more carefully about villain's range as there's no way villain is getting to the turn with hands like KQ and AQ when we're cbetting into 2 people and he's OOP.

If he check raises the turn it really depends a lot on what we think/know about villain as to how to proceed. It would be tough to fold to a raise of 32 after we bet 14. I have no problem folding to a larger raise if villain doesn't have enough bluffs.

Time Link to 00:11:15

Let`s assume that Villain has a set on the flop….. Can you advise please what line should be good for Villain to take at that moment against you??
• ?ou have played 29 hands together……
• Wouldn't it better for him to c/r BIG on the flop??? I mean he has more % to get called on the flop, right??

When he has a Full House (Turn) he should bet 1/3 the Turn, 1/3 the River...... You don't FOLD unless you have nothing...... If you have a Flush (Turn) then more than 50% of the time you will raise his small bet and he will stack you off (.) Am I wrong??

If Villain has a set (FLOP) & Full House (TURN) I believe he did a big mistake by not going for a big pot……

It wouldn't be bad to CR say, from 3x to somewhere less than 4x at that point with a set, he can rep a wide range and there's no reason we shouldn't believe he has a wide range. He should continue to bet on the turn with whatever size is best for his value bets and bluffs. That doesn't mean villain is going to think the same way, or realise those facts. A lot of people just hit a FH and think "great, time to CR!"

Time Link to 00:30:13

http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/12571-Episode-Fifteen?seek=1806

Ok but I prefer ALWAYS to bet TURN, especially when I know that Villain has something and he won`t fold (Villain here b/c FLOP into 4 players…..). My TURN bet size will be small (1/2) because I can easily have an under bet on the river (You told me I can CB in case I have Vbets & bluffs in my range and here I believe I have)

From my Point of View
FLOP
• Villain can get into the flop with……. JJ-TT, 88-66, 44-22, 9s9c, AQs-ATs, KJs+, QJs, AQo-AJo, KQo, QTo+, JTo (145 combos)
TURN
• Villain b/c FLOP. He can get into the TURN with …… JJ, TT, 88-66, 9s9c, AhQh, KhQh, AhJh, KhJh, QhJh, AhTh (37 combos)….. HE FOLDS TURN after a ½ Pot bet only with 88-66 let` say 1 to 3 times, so 24 combos/3 ……. 37/8 = HE CALLS 80% of the time!!
RIVER
• I bet - He calls except has nothing……..

From Villain Point of View
• Hero c/r FLOP. He can do that with …… TT+, 77, 9s9c, 8d8h, AhKh, AhQh, KhQh, AhJh, KhJh, QhJh, AhTh, JhTh (46 combos)…..
• So Villain calls trying to evaluate Turn (8s8c has good equity).
• I don`t believe he FOLDS Turn/River after a ½ Pot Bet from Hero…… (5c & Qc don`t change a lot of things).

Can you advise, please??
• If Hero had a FD (AhTh+) on the flop, is it ok for him to go ALL IN on the TURN (after his c/r on the flop) trying to make Villain to fold??? I think not…….. Villain CALLS 80% of the time!!
• If Hero had a FD (AhTh+) on the flop, is it ok to check TURN - go ALL IN on the RIVER trying to make Villain to fold??? I think not…….. Villain CALLS AGAIN 80% of the time and more!!

So we can say that c/r flop OOP with big FD is a mistake??

Can you advise, please??
• If Hero had a FD (AhTh+) on the flop, is it ok for him to go ALL IN on the TURN (after his c/r on the flop) trying to make Villain to fold??? I think not…….. Villain CALLS 80% of the time!!
• If Hero had a FD (AhTh+) on the flop, is it ok to check TURN - go ALL IN on the RIVER trying to make Villain to fold??? I think not…….. Villain CALLS AGAIN 80% of the time and more!!

So we can say that c/r flop OOP with big FD is a mistake??

I agree with you on all points quoted above.

Going back to your original point of wanting to bet the turn small, I think it's ok, especially when villain often has showdown value, but in this case I think villain has floated us with most of his range a good % of the time simply because he puts us on a bluff and plans to move us off it later. He can't do that if we bet the turn, which looks incredibly strong.

Time Link to 00:44:55

http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/12571-Episode-Fifteen?seek=2695

Villain 3 bets with AJo….. He does that probably as a bluff right?? Otherwise for getting value from AJo, Hero should open more than 30% of his hands and calling 3bets with 50% of his opening hand range, right??…....

And Hero doesn`t fold…. HE CALLS!!!
Flop gives Villain a flush draw…… He has equity but he is OOP & the board hits Hero`s range quite well….
Villain has AJ (blockers vs hero`s range) so he puts Hero mostly on TT-88,KQs,KTs,QJs,KQo…….34 combos . He is behind…….
• This is another leak for me… I lose money here because the pot is already big, I have flush draw so I don`t want to leave the hand, Hero gives me always a very good price to keep me in the pot……

Can you advise what is the best line Villain should take???
• Is it better to CB???........ I don`t believe this is a good spot to bet for value……..To get value from what?????
• Is it better to CB/fold if get raised??? ………No, because after Hero`s minraise he gets a very good price to call and continue.
• Is it better to CB/All in if get minraised??? ………. Maybe!!!
• Can we check trying to keep the pot small??......I think this is a very passive line.

Villain's play should probably be to cbet, but it depends on how often hero bluff raises as to how often he should play back vs a raise. If hero thinks that villain is going to shove his entire range over a small raise, he should have no bluffs, forcing villain into a mistake - as with the hand in question. When hero does have bluffs a shove from villain becomes much better, in line with the number of bluffs hero has.