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Basecamp: Episode Three

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Basecamp: Episode Three by sthief09

Sthief and the micro-NL platoon hook up to review some 4-tabling 10NL videos.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 83 minutes long
  • Posted about 3 years ago

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Icehockeyplyr

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Great video. Its good see some more 10nl content

Posted about 3 years ago

tubasteve

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i dont think this play works as often as you'd like at 10nl, and i think people at 10nl will check down with KJ plenty of the time here.

Posted about 3 years ago

Riverbandit15

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At the very beginning of the video, when we open 88 in the CO, and get 3beted by the BB(top left table). Is this a fold? I would definately call here, being in position.

Posted about 3 years ago

Chazb0t

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At the very beginning of the video, when we open 88 in the CO, and get 3beted by the BB(top left table). Is this a fold? I would definately call here, being in position.



Why would you call? What are you hoping to be ahead of? 99+ has 82% equity vs you PF, TJ+ has 49% equity but could outflop you and you won't know if you're ahead. You're only going to flop a set 1 in 8.5 times. I'm not sure what your reasoning is for calling.

Posted about 3 years ago

Riverbandit15

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Even though overcards can hit the board, we are ip, so we will be able to handread very well. I am not calling for set value. Obviously 22-77 is a fold, but I think 88 is kind of the border for calling/folding.
What is the worst pp you would defend with?

Posted about 3 years ago

Chazb0t

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Even though overcards can hit the board, we are ip, so we will be able to handread very well. I am not calling for set value. Obviously 22-77 is a fold, but I think 88 is kind of the border for calling/folding.
What is the worst pp you would defend with?



I would get it in w/ QQ+/AK here and thats it. The villain is unknown and we have 3 hands on him, it is the first time we've seen him 3bet I would give him the benefit of the doubt.

We don't want to "defend" with anything. What makes you think that he is 3betting light here? What type of hand range do you put him on that you think it's ok to "defend" and flat a 3bet IP here? What type of flop are you hoping for? Are you hoping to push him off of a better hand? If you are trying to represent a strong hand on the flop why wouldn't you 4bet it PF?

I would rather 4bet w/ 88 than flat his 3bet IP if I think he is 3betting me light. I still think folding is the best option by far, followed by 4betting though I don't recommend it, with flatting being the worst option here.

Posted about 3 years ago

Riverbandit15

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We don't want to "defend" with anything. What makes you think that he is 3betting light here? What type of hand range do you put him on that you think it's ok to "defend" and flat a 3bet IP here? What type of flop are you hoping for? Are you hoping to push him off of a better hand? If you are trying to represent a strong hand on the flop why wouldn't you 4bet it PF?


Yeah, this definately makes sense. Thanks

Posted about 3 years ago

Chazb0t

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Yeah, this definately makes sense. Thanks



No problem, flatting with 88 here is such a marginal spot, I don't think you will ever show a profit doing it. You can wait for so many better spots to stack someone.

Posted about 3 years ago

isacsen

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Excellent points, Chaz! Recent coaching also made me realize that I should fold as default. Give unknowns credit for 3-bets. Take a note and move on to the next hand. If he keeps 3 betting you, THEN you can start to adjust.

Posted about 3 years ago

palacedefender

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So if I have Aj and bet the flop....and one of them reraises me....i call the raise and reevaluate on the turn? Is that the best play?

Posted about 3 years ago

Chazb0t

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So if I have Aj and bet the flop....and one of them reraises me....i call the raise and reevaluate on the turn? Is that the best play?



I don't think so, both villains are very passive, I don't think they would be raising something like KcQc or other combo draws there, I think more often than not its gunna be 2pair or a set, so I would just fold.

Posted about 3 years ago

Riverbandit15

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So if I have Aj and bet the flop....and one of them reraises me....i call the raise and reevaluate on the turn? Is that the best play?



Chazb0t made a good point abut their ranges. If you were ip, I could see merits to calling, as people sometimes raise worse jacks, or combodraws, but that would be still very very thin vs. these guys(propably -EV). Oop, calling is out of question.

Posted about 3 years ago

Drshoe

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I don't think a shove can be justified in a non 3bet pot here, and calling just doesnt seem like a good idea, as you would have 0 information.

would you guys agree that if this was a 3bet pot, you would just lead out on the flop with the intention of shoving any raise?

Posted about 3 years ago

Chazb0t

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I don't think a shove can be justified in a non 3bet pot here, and calling just doesnt seem like a good idea, as you would have 0 information.

would you guys agree that if this was a 3bet pot, you would just lead out on the flop with the intention of shoving any raise?



I'm not quite sure what hand you are talking about, do you have a timestamp or are you talking about the AJ hand?

Posted about 3 years ago

Drshoe

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Chazb0t

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the AJ one



The situation would never come up. If you got 3bet you would fold AJo OOP, unless you wanted to go broke. If you had like AK there and got 3bet and didn't want to 4bet, then yes I would lead into both of them and get it in on an A or K high flop.

Posted about 3 years ago

limetiger

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A these stakes I find players with a high VPIP will snap call a shove with any king.

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