RainFall
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I agree with WoT on the first AQ hand that the minraise/click it back is a great way to get people, especially maniacs, to spazz out. I personally find its a superior line to flat calling here. They find so many reasons to peel so light.
I do find videos with people with southernish and very thick European accents are near unbearable at times.
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Sneakers
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Curious. I like this video (still watching). Is there a reason that Hero has his dollar-amount covered up. I think this is important info for us, as it is a factor in the villains' perception of us.
Just wondering if this is how Hero normally plays, or if this is a WoT tactic for practice.
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aumorgan
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Curious. I like this video (still watching). Is there a reason that Hero has his dollar-amount covered up. I think this is important info for us, as it is a factor in the villains' perception of us.
Just wondering if this is how Hero normally plays, or if this is a WoT tactic for practice.
that is a holdover from my LHE days that i do occassionly. i need to stop it and think i mention later in the vid i don't need to do that. it was not intentional and i rarely notice it. sorry.
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zenben
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that is a holdover from my LHE days that i do occassionly. i need to stop it and think i mention later in the vid i don't need to do that. it was not intentional and i rarely notice it. sorry.
The problem with this, which I'm sure you recognize now, is the correct decision in NL, especially pre-flop is quite dependent on effective stack size, so if we don't know if we are 100-300BB deep, we risk making some pretty big mistakes.
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zenben
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The other important reason for betting this turn with a FD OOP is we make a valuebet on the river when we hit our flush more natural and more likely to get called by 1-pair hands-nothing screams "flush" more than bet t.t. flop, ch/C turn, lead river when the flush hits!
WoT-after barreling this turn, besides a 9 or a 5, are there any cards that we should not be 3 barreling, assuming we don't improve? What do you think about an 6 or an 8? It seems a lot of villains "peel 2" range improves to 2-pair or a straight on these cards. Is a T/J relatively +ev to barrel? What about another Q?
EDIT-you actually address barrel cards on the river a little later, so NM.
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aumorgan
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The problem with this, which I'm sure you recognize now, is the correct decision in NL, especially pre-flop is quite dependent on effective stack size, so if we don't know if we are 100-300BB deep, we risk making some pretty big mistakes.
yea, that is what i meant by saying i needed to quit doing this. actually, after making the vid with Aaron and noticing it i've already changed it.
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rik534
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What about c/raising this river because I never think he bets 2p or weaker and since his AF% is 0 I dont think he's going to bluff on this kind of board. Although when he bets he's likely to have a set or a rivered flush. I think you can move him of a flush since you have the Ad. Only problem is that the Jd remove JQdd, TJdd from his range pf and 67dd 9Tdd are likely to barrel. Also I have to disagree with the openingrange you put him on because his steal is 20 and the sample is too small.
If the river was the 2d it gives him a few more lower flushes (T and J high). What are you guys thinking of raising to a very big amount to let him fold sets and flushes?
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Casual Friday
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WOT is the nuts. Great video guys.
I often find myself folding QQ PF to a 4bet at these limits, maybe I'm just weak tight but just like the aubie said in the video it always seems to be AA or AK. You said its tough to fold QQ w/o reads but at the same time for him he seems very tight and its just as hard for him to be 4betting light/wide without reads.
I suppose even vs AA/KK/AK we're pretty close but its just tilting to blow off a buy-in and after we run into KK its seems so obvious he had it. "Damn, he was a nit, UTG and 4bet so small." etc
Maybe I'll just start flatting and playing post flop like you said. 
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rik534
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Maybe I'll just start flatting and playing post flop like you said. 
In your opinion the guy has AK AA KK
PF 2 options:
1)You're behind vs AA KK: You flat and get it in bad on every flop or turn because there's often no A or K on the board.
2)you're ahead vs AK: You're ahead so you want to get the money in pf and don't let him hit his A or K on the flop and fold the pf best hand.
Flatting is always baaaaad, just shove.
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i think ure options for the AJ hand are chek call and bluff catch or check and do a big reraise as a bluff cos bettin $3.50 into the pot isnt going to work ppl dont fold at $25nl for a small bet i think he would call AA KK check raise big puts him to a tougher decision donkin out most players will call better or the same hand and fold worse cr since u got ace diamonds would b quite effective
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calexc123
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actually chek call is a bit of a spew aswell since there isnt many ways he could be bluffing that wouldnt of bet turn which is a great bluff card so chek fold or chek raise cr prolly get him off AAKKQQAJ maybe 2pr
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Given the fact that we're giving a loose player a calling range of Ax,gutter (maybe turned open ended), or Txcc, what do you suggest is the best play for getting called on the turn and a straight/flush card peeling on the river? I'd assume a bet is best in case the river card is a broadway card and we can get 2nd pair to make a call. But given the fact that our plan on the turn is to bet large relative to the pot size, how large would you recommend a river bet? and how many hands are we folding to a ship on the river?
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