Poker Video: Pot-Limit Omaha by whitelime (High Stakes)

Nice video Emil. In case you dont know, if you press "visualize" (top left corner red button or under de hand history window, you can see the action of the last hand like fulltilt.

Time Link to 00:41:13

I was a little curious about the equity here and thought others might be as well.

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
666 trials (Exhaustive)
board: A96
8h7h6h5c 35.59% (234 wins, 6 ties)
AcQdTs8s 27.70% (177 wins, 15 ties)
AhTh2s9c 36.71% (240 wins, 9 ties)

Great video as usual but the sound is a little bit out of sync.

I was a little curious about the equity here and thought others might be as well.

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
666 trials (Exhaustive)
board: A96
8h7h6h5c 35.59% (234 wins, 6 ties)
AcQdTs8s 27.70% (177 wins, 15 ties)
AhTh2s9c 36.71% (240 wins, 9 ties)

Great video as usual but the sound is a little bit out of sync.

We definitely can't fold when both players get all-in and we only have to stick in $500 and change but I think shoving over the initial c-bet is probably better because we can get the 3rd player to fold a hand similar to ours.

We definitely can't fold when both players get all-in and we only have to stick in $500 and change but I think shoving over the initial c-bet is probably better because we can get the 3rd player to fold a hand similar to ours.

Yeah folding is definitely not a consideration after calling the c-bet and obviously this sim isn't representative of their whole ranges.

You never got to talking about that cold 4bet spot w/ AAxx. Could you go into that?

Time Link to 00:16:12

how horriable is it to semibluff jam here?

JJ95 on Jc2hAhQc,

I see alot of taggy players semibluff with sets when straight draws or flush draws hit. I play 25plo though.

Do you like it better if the board didnt have a second flush draw?

Time Link to 00:20:07

with 2ka6 on the 2s7sKd board, w/ no real back doors, what are you doing here if he pot raises you on the flop? I'd think he have something like k7xx, kkxx, 7789, 7786 and KsQsTd8h. Vs that range I think we'd have to fold.

Time Link to 00:06:27

Emil, could you talk more about the difference between check-raising a board like 778 opposed to 788? When you said it was a mistake to c/r 788 did you mean as a bluff or for value (or both) as in we should be check-calling instead of check-raising most of the time?

Edit: so should we think about balancing our check-raise bluffs with our 8BBx hands while still only check-calling with our not-so-strong 8xxx so our opponent's can't barrel us that easily when we check-call with hands like KK or AA?

You never got to talking about that cold 4bet spot w/ AAxx. Could you go into that?

I think it's pretty standard. You get in almost a 3rd of your stack and you likely get it heads-up with a PSB on the flop and in position. If both call the pot is $2100 and you have an easy shove on a most flops with $1500 and the opponent in the middle gets sandwiched pretty bad here.

Edit: oh, were you asking about when whitelime said we didn't have to 4bet in this spot?

Time Link to 00:46:47

Shouldn't the fact that there aren't that many blanks that can fall on the turn or river refrain us from check-raising with middle set here? Shouldn't we check-call or lead and have the pot be smaller on the turn since the hand will be kind of tough to play OOP with 200 bbs?

Doesn't it also put us in an awkward spot when he comes over the top to our flop check-raise? I guess with our OESD we have 6 more clean outs that our opponent might even use to bluff the turn. Is it because of that we can profitably play the hand this way?

Sound resynced and uploaded.
-Rusty

Time Link to 00:34:43

Stars does have a replayer that works very similar to FTP's. If you click the Visualize button from the HH window, it will bring it up or if you click the replayer button in the table window (the little red circle next to the HH link), it will bring up the replayer too.

Any chance you can finish the rest of the series with some HU play?

Do you realize you use the phrase "right there" in almost every sentence?

Sry to be nitty. It just started tilting me after I noticed.

Great vid otherwise.

Could you give an example of a hand where you min 3bet bluffed on the flop? You considered doing it in this video but opted not to pull the trigger and I'd like to see a spot or two where the situation was right. I've never seen the play made before.

You never got to talking about that cold 4bet spot w/ AAxx. Could you go into that?

With those stack sizes, I think you'd want to be 4-betting close to 100%, but it's when you're deeper, it's really nice to have AA in your flatting range, because someone will incorrectly 4-bet KK or AKQJ for value thinking that you just have a nice rundown and they are committed and we get a lot of money in really good.

how horriable is it to semibluff jam here?

JJ95 on Jc2hAhQc,

I see alot of taggy players semibluff with sets when straight draws or flush draws hit. I play 25plo though.

Do you like it better if the board didnt have a second flush draw?

I think it's really bad. You're never getting any better hand to fold. What's the point?

with 2ka6 on the 2s7sKd board, w/ no real back doors, what are you doing here if he pot raises you on the flop? I'd think he have something like k7xx, kkxx, 7789, 7786 and KsQsTd8h. Vs that range I think we'd have to fold.

Without any reads, I probably get it in but am not too happy about it. If you are folding K2 here, your opponent can bluff raise/semi bluff raise you too profitably. Against most tight players, I agree you can fold. If we had AKQ2 instead, I am not folding against anyone except a super nit.

Emil, could you talk more about the difference between check-raising a board like 778 opposed to 788? When you said it was a mistake to c/r 788 did you mean as a bluff or for value (or both) as in we should be check-calling instead of check-raising most of the time?

Edit: so should we think about balancing our check-raise bluffs with our 8BBx hands while still only check-calling with our not-so-strong 8xxx so our opponent's can't barrel us that easily when we check-call with hands like KK or AA?

Chk-raising naked trips on 778 is usually not a good play because you don't necessarily have nut outs whereas on 788 you do. I was more talking about balancing your chk-calling range on 788 to include some trips which a lot of players don't do.

Could you give an example of a hand where you min 3bet bluffed on the flop? You considered doing it in this video but opted not to pull the trigger and I'd like to see a spot or two where the situation was right. I've never seen the play made before.

Usually paired boards, but rainbow boards without straight draws or something like AT6r are decent spots too.

Chk-raising naked trips on 778 is usually not a good play because you don't necessarily have nut outs whereas on 788 you do. I was more talking about balancing your chk-calling range on 788 to include some trips which a lot of players don't do.

So basically you were saying we should tend to check-call a lot with naked trips, especially on 778-type ones, so we can check-call with draws and overpairs on paired boards and not get barreled as often? Which means we should be check-raising paired boards with premium hands that can safely get it in, like 88xx on 778 and ABB8 on 788, and with air. Is this correct?

Time Link to 00:11:36

Is this a good spot to semibluff with QQ and the Q high fd on the K73 board? The board is dry aside from the flush draw. A lot of what villain is betting he can't be too happy to get it in with, and he probably has to fold hands like Kx without hearts. And since the hands that he is getting it in with are hands like sets or pair + nfd, and they have you crushed here so you're not giving up much by raise/folding.

So basically you were saying we should tend to check-call a lot with naked trips, especially on 778-type ones, so we can check-call with draws and overpairs on paired boards and not get barreled as often? Which means we should be check-raising paired boards with premium hands that can safely get it in, like 88xx on 778 and ABB8 on 788, and with air. Is this correct?

Yes, you got it.

Is this a good spot to semibluff with QQ and the Q high fd on the K73 board? The board is dry aside from the flush draw. A lot of what villain is betting he can't be too happy to get it in with, and he probably has to fold hands like Kx without hearts. And since the hands that he is getting it in with are hands like sets or pair + nfd, and they have you crushed here so you're not giving up much by raise/folding.

I'd prefer to pick a worse hand. The QQ hand is good enough to call with so I'd rather not turn it into a bluff.

Could you give an example of a hand where you min 3bet bluffed on the flop? You considered doing it in this video but opted not to pull the trigger and I'd like to see a spot or two where the situation was right. I've never seen the play made before.

:-D I tried it yesterday after watching this vid.

Poker Stars $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 678078
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

MP: $19.55
CO: $57.40
BTN: $89.50
SB: $23.50
Hero (BB): $25.00
UTG: $25.60

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 4 7 6 8
4 folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $1

Flop: ($3.00) Q Q 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.75, SB raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $5.25, SB folds

Final Pot: $10.00
Hero wins $9.55
(Rake: $0.45)

is this the last video in the series?

is this the last video in the series?

Today's episode is still producing but should be out pretty soon. There will be 8 episodes overall.

thanks,
Rob

Time Link to 00:40:44

Was just wondering if you noticed you had bottom 2p here on the left?
You said if you were called you would barrel any Q/J turn and continue to barrel on the river. I'm assuming your using your A blockers to rep the straight along with the fact that your UTG opening range should nail this flop but I just wanted to confirm that those two things combined are more important then having that SD value.
I guess if we chk bk the Q/J turns we'll often end up folding to a river bet plus if those cards come our 2p is rarely going to be good anyway so we may as well just rep the very strong hand that's perfectly likely to be in our range and give ourselves a better chance of winning the pot.

LOL that hud is pretty messed up