Hey guys,
Will add the WMV in a bit -- it's taking a long while to produce so I just put the streaming version up for now.
Rob
whitelime returns for the second episode of LIME-AID PLO, playing one deep $5/10 ante table and a second $5/10 table with 100BB.
More than a year after his training with Phil Galfond, Emil has mastered Pot Limit Omaha. He imparts what he has learned to the members of DeucesCracked.com
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Hey guys,
Will add the WMV in a bit -- it's taking a long while to produce so I just put the streaming version up for now.
Rob
I think Id watch this in animated gif if I had too...
Time Link to 00:32:26
If you were singlesuited but to the Ace, would you call here? What about DS?
Rob
Time Link to 00:36:07
Great episode Emil. Really liked the discussion about the 8654 hand here, both in this scenario and in the hypotheticals you went into later in the vid (what to do in position, what portions of his range he'll fold correctly if you just call, etc).
Rob
36:00
you are flipping against aces and kings and you are crushed by hands like the one he had, i think you can assume that any 5/10 regular is 3 betting enough high/midcard hands to make this a very bad flop for your hand
WMV is up. Thanks guys.
-Rusty
Good video.
What percentage of your hands are played at HU and 6max btw? I usually see you playing only HU PLO at FTP/Stars. Big reason why I really hope to see some HU PLO vids of you.
I think you oversimplified the 8654 hand a good bit (given him a range of all aa**, all kk** and all betting that big there). Looks like a c/f in that scenario (esp his betsize). Leading looks like an option too me.
Great Video! Really enjoy your thought process on the hands.
Time Link to 00:11:49
on table 1, you fold the queens, can you not set mine profitably here? what would you be doing with dry KKxx or JJ98ds in this spot.
If you were singlesuited but to the Ace, would you call here? What about DS?
Rob
Double suited I am playing against any opponent. Single suited it depends on the opponent. Against an aggressive 3-bettor, I'd play it single suited to the A.
on table 1, you fold the queens, can you not set mine profitably here? what would you be doing with dry KKxx or JJ98ds in this spot.
It's pretty close. I'd play the QQ if I had a suited A along with it or if they were double suited. The thing to remember about set mining in PLO is the draws you get all in against usually have really good equity against you so it's not like you get it allin w/ 88% like you do in hold'em.
Rainbow KK is pretty close too but I'd probably dump something like KK72o and play something like KK89o.
JJ98ds is significantly stronger than either of those hands and I am never folding.
can you comment on the 3-bet pre there on table 2?
Against a good button who is probably opening a wide range, this is pretty standard w/ 3 big cards and a suited A.
The hand at 36 minutes I play the same except I am probably just not opening that UTG. I think that is a little too loose and I'm not convinced you are really going to show a profit playing a hand like that with RIO problems because of the gap at the top and not a ton of high card value. Similarly when you open something like 4578 UTG. If those hands were like...a pip or two pips higher, I'd probably open them. In looser games when you get multiple callers even when we flop a decent draw we are never thrilled to get the money in though as our pivot card will rarely be making us the nuts.
I think perhaps the best point made in this video, and it might have been in other videos but I glossed over it, was the All-in equities point referring to suited hands.
Everyone kinda knows you have to have a bit of the gamble in ya to play PLO, most people just resign themselves to the fact that slightly-weighted flips are part of the game. When we do look at how often stacks go in, it drives how the fact that starting hand strength can really cost you in the long run 2% at a time...
After losing an hour watching ep one, I hope to get some value out of this one.
This series inspired me to play a little PLO myself. Really good instructive video, I feel like I already have some good basic fundementals.
Time Link to 00:23:22
whitelime,
I've sceen a few people that have 3bet and folded to a 4bet. In this hand the button 3bet and folded to a 4bet from utg+1. Does this happen fairly often at mid-high stakes? I guess agianst an agressive button 3bettor we might have some fold equity to our 4bets?
Time Link to 00:35:32
This pokerbelizi guy is the guy I said earlyer was 3betting a ton and folding to 4bets. Given that is this a hand you might 4bet? Or would you rather thave something like J987ds befor you started thinking about 4betting? or is 4betting just a bad idea in genral OOP with hands like these cause we'll get a flop like you did w/ bottom pair and a flush draw on board we dont have.
meh on second thought I think if i was going to 4bet light I'd add KK** into my range rather than small rundowns.
Time Link to 00:40:26
why do you think, that barreling on the river here is bad?
for instance, would you b/f AAxx here or c/c or c/f?
btw watched ep one and two so far and I really liked it, you are really good at explaining your actions
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