Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by Gman (High Stakes)

WOW thank god... been waiting for a gman HU video for a while def worth the wait

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if you check an offsuit 8, whats your plan for the rest of the hand?

nice vid n tyia

Hi Gmann

Very interesting video.
I have a couple of questions

11.27 minutes in:
You raise to 30 with ATo he makes it 100, u make it 230 and say
that it is good for gameflow reasons.

Can you please elaborate. Why is it good for gameflow reasons?

I suppouse it is because you force him to 3-bet a lower percentage?

And it makes your image more aggressive? IE he will be more prone
to pay you off lighter pre/post-flop later in the match, the more you pound on him?



Interesting point about turn CR. I for sure do not do it enough.

27 min in when u CR KT on T 8 6 r Kx
What other non-made hands in your range would do u for a CR with?

J9 seems to me like a good hand to CR with in that spot. But besides that
I cannot really see other non-made hands in my range that I would go for a
CR with... QJo maybe, but I would probably not CC / minbet-call it OOP...


Again - At 47 min. on the 46Q ttw board
If I decide to CC the flop I would 10/10 times just CC the turn to continue repping a weak range, and balance in that way.
But yeah, I can see that could be a problem if I want to CC a lot of draws on the flop, againat an aggressive player who will just second barrel me a lot.

Can you please give a description of what kind of non-made hands that you would CR turn with?

Lets say do it with T9s FD which I suppouse is one of the hands you could do it with?

If he calls and a brick falls on the river, would u follow through and bluff ship the river?

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whats your river blan on a blank if checked to?

if you check an offsuit 8, whats your plan for the rest of the hand?

nice vid n tyia

Probably never fold, given he still has plenty of draws he will shove, and maybe some other value hands worse than QQ.

Probably never fold, given he still has plenty of draws he will shove, and maybe some other value hands worse than QQ.

so do you expect him to shove with a draw but maybe not call? in other words, if he would call with his draws and other worse value hands, isnt it better to just bet as to not give any free cards if he happens to decide to check back a draw?

thanks again

Hi Gmann

Very interesting video.
I have a couple of questions

11.27 minutes in:
You raise to 30 with ATo he makes it 100, u make it 230 and say
that it is good for gameflow reasons.

Can you please elaborate. Why is it good for gameflow reasons?

It's good for gameflow for the reasons I mention just a few seconds later. Specifically, I felt he would shove PF with air a good percentage because he would think that since I showed AJ earlier, I would incorrectly convince him I was doing this for light value again. Or to simplify it a bit more, he would be somewhat likely to assume I was weak here since I showed a value hand last time.

I suppouse it is because you force him to 3-bet a lower percentage?

Sure this is a long term benefit associated w/ 4 betting w/ a good frequency.

And it makes your image more aggressive? IE he will be more prone
to pay you off lighter pre/post-flop later in the match, the more you pound on him?

Against very good players who are able to compartmentalize each street and action, this argument has less merit, but in general sure this is correct.



Interesting point about turn CR. I for sure do not do it enough.

27 min in when u CR KT on T 8 6 r Kx
What other non-made hands in your range would do u for a CR with?

AJ/A9/A7/6x/J9/Q9/QJ/J7/75. The frequency at which I would c/c vs c/r w/ each of those hands on the flop is dependent on a ton of stuff, but I would def take the c/c flop, c/r turn line w/ each of them some small % of the time.

J9 seems to me like a good hand to CR with in that spot. But besides that
I cannot really see other non-made hands in my range that I would go for a
CR with... QJo maybe, but I would probably not CC / minbet-call it OOP...


Again - At 47 min. on the 46Q ttw board
If I decide to CC the flop I would 10/10 times just CC the turn to continue repping a weak range, and balance in that way.
But yeah, I can see that could be a problem if I want to CC a lot of draws on the flop, againat an aggressive player who will just second barrel me a lot.

FWIW, I also would look to just c/c the turn there in general, but I felt because I had already c/r once and in both situations can only rep a very narrow range, this would be another good spot for a c/r. Also, It is relevant to point out if you are playing a player who is likely to DB a draw but almost always give up when he whiffs the river, then we have even more incentive to c/r the turn.

Can you please give a description of what kind of non-made hands that you would CR turn with?

1) any weak made hand that you feel can no longer c/c again profitably
2) any non SD equity hand (usually 8+ out draws)
3) any pure floats OOP. Again, against some players I would rarely c/c #2 and 3 (and am less likely to c/c #1) on the flop, but against others I would do it a ton. Against the best of players, I am pretty balanced there.

Lets say do it with T9s FD which I suppouse is one of the hands you could do it with?

If he calls and a brick falls on the river, would u follow through and bluff ship the river?

This is very very dependent on 100 other things going on in the match, but yes I would bet again more often than I would give up in a vacuum.

whats your river blan on a blank if checked to?

Good ? and tough spot, sorry I didn't mention it in the video.

I would likely just give up if the river bricked, whether he bet or checked.

Again, I just kinda felt like his line indicated strength and worry that he would check his strong hands some decent % of the time, knowing a bunch of the hands in my range were draws. Betting 1/2 pot on the river once checked too isn't so bad though, I feel like we can get him to fold somewhat close to 1/3 of the time.

so do you expect him to shove with a draw but maybe not call? in other words, if he would call with his draws and other worse value hands, isnt it better to just bet as to not give any free cards if he happens to decide to check back a draw?

thanks again

Yes I expect him to bet w/ a draw as it certainly looks like I am just giving up once I check the turn. And obviously he can't call a turn shove w a draw. I suppose betting like 1/3 pot/call on the turn is okay, but that looks really transparent imo and he will probably play perfectly against that bet. But because he will take the free card w a draw some, there is def merit to shoving or b/c at least.

thanks for the help gman

sorry, one more thing. when u say he will probably play perfectly to a gay bet, do you think he will fold his draws and worse value hands?

sorry, one more thing. when u say he will probably play perfectly to a gay bet, do you think he will fold his draws and worse value hands?

Likely to fold draws, and a bit more likely to fold a weak made hand than if I just shove the turn imo, but that's at least debatable.

Thanks Gman for the great video.
Im still waiting for you to do a series named "unorthodox HU"

Again, against some players I would rarely c/c #2 and 3 (and am less likely to c/c #1) on the flop, but against others I would do it a ton. Against the best of players, I am pretty balanced there. [/b]
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what types of players would you rarely c/c #2 and 3 and against which types would you do it a ton, and why?

Hi Gman

Thank you for the answer to my questions. After watching this video I got inspired to watch some of your earlier videoes.

And I just began seeing the MagicNinja series, and I have a question about a hand in part 2 of that series.

You are 120BB deep

You open JsTh against MagicNinja, and he 3-bets with Td5d and you call

The flop is: 9d Ad Qs Pot: 200
He leads 127
You call

Turn: 6x - Pot: 454
He leads 237

You discuss whether to fold/call/or shove and end up folding which I do not understand

If we go to PokerStove and ONLY give him strong value hands IE a range of:
AQ, Q9 and 99 we got 18% equity

In order to just make a breakeven potodds call we need 26% equity
237/927

But if he only got strong value we will obv. get a good bunch of money on the river when we hit our straigt card. IE: We then for sure got pot / implied odds to call.

And if we add in a couple of draws in he's range - Just 2 couple of FD's for examle. Td5d and a hand like 8d7d we then got 24% equity.

And of course he will also a small percantage of the time just have a complete airball / decide to CF the river with he's range.

Therefore I think it as minimum must be a call

So yeah, do you agree with this or am I off in my calculations / logic some where?

what types of players would you rarely c/c #2 and 3 and against which types would you do it a ton, and why?

A very brief overview:

Rarely c/c:
a) double barrels a ton, making it hard to get to the river to make a hand or bluff
b)Can't read hands very well and assumes you taking the c/call, check/check, and leading the river line is often a non SD hand. This makes it much harder to bluff the river.

You would often c/c in just the opposite situations.
So for a, that ideally would be a player who c-bets his air often and gives up on the turn often.
And for b, that would mean there is more merit to c/c w/ QT on J82 or even A72 because your competent opponent assumes you would be much more likely to c/r with a non SD hand.

Note:
A good player will notice if you are c/c a ton and will adjust accordingly, which is yet another good reason to balance the way you play QT on j82r against a smart opponent.

Hi Gman

Thank you for the answer to my questions. After watching this video I got inspired to watch some of your earlier videoes.

And I just began seeing the MagicNinja series, and I have a question about a hand in part 2 of that series.

You are 120BB deep

You open JsTh against MagicNinja, and he 3-bets with Td5d and you call

The flop is: 9d Ad Qs Pot: 200
He leads 127
You call

Turn: 6x - Pot: 454
He leads 237

You discuss whether to fold/call/or shove and end up folding which I do not understand

If we go to PokerStove and ONLY give him strong value hands IE a range of:
AQ, Q9 and 99 we got 18% equity

Note that any Ax has the same equity as top set here, and MN is def def good enough to value bet any Ax the whole way here, so his value range is much bigger than an unlikely 2 pair hand

In order to just make a breakeven potodds call we need 26% equity
237/927

Check your math, it's actually 237 to win 691 aka over 34% equity

But if he only got strong value we will obv. get a good bunch of money on the river when we hit our straigt card. IE: We then for sure got pot / implied odds to call.

And if we add in a couple of draws in he's range - Just 2 couple of FD's for examle. Td5d and a hand like 8d7d we then got 24% equity.

And of course he will also a small percantage of the time just have a complete airball / decide to CF the river with he's range.

Therefore I think it as minimum must be a call

So yeah, do you agree with this or am I off in my calculations / logic some where?


So ya this is the part where we see it differently. It sounds like you are assuming he is just always going to c/f when he doesn't have anything and always just shove when he does, which is a really poor assumption to make. The reality is that he is going to play the river very well, sometimes c/c w/ a made hand to induce a bluff or allow me to valuetown myself. Plenty of other times he will shove the river with air.

With that said, it is very close. Calling aka double floating def does have merit because sometimes he will c/f air. Shoving is clearly a viable option as well, I just felt like I would be called a bit too often to make that the best line in the spot. In general, folding 8+ out draws in 3b pot with these stacks is not something I do too often fwiw.

A very brief overview:

Rarely c/c:
a) double barrels a ton, making it hard to get to the river to make a hand or bluff

if our opponent double barrels a ton, although its harder to get to the river to hit our hand or bluff, isnt taking a c/c flop c/r turn line even more profitable then just c/r flop given that he has a lot of air on the turn if he double barrels so frequently?

Thank you for some good reply's Gman

But with regard to the math... I have checked it again. And doublechecked with 2+2, and I am confident that it is you who are making a math mistake:

See this thread:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19/high-stakes-pl-nl/poker-marth-question-943893/#post23687472

Do you still disagree?

if our opponent double barrels a ton, although its harder to get to the river to hit our hand or bluff, isnt taking a c/c flop c/r turn line even more profitable then just c/r flop given that he has a lot of air on the turn if he double barrels so frequently?

It can be. The problem with that is:
a) it is often hard for us to rep a hand
b) Along w/ a), he might not be interested in folding a draw period, but especially if our range is weak
c) when he is v-betting, it ends up being a very expensive bluff.

With that said, this play is clearly in my arsenal as it should be in yours for balance considerations alone when playing a competent opponent.

Thank you for some good reply's Gman

But with regard to the math... I have checked it again. And doublechecked with 2+2, and I am confident that it is you who are making a math mistake:

See this thread:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19/high-stakes-pl-nl/poker-marth-question-943893/#post23687472

Do you still disagree?

Ya brain freeze, my bad. The non-quantitative aspects of my earlier post still applies though.