DOGISHEAD (#2)

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DOGISHEAD (#2)

In his second DeucesCracked Duel, DOGISHEAD 2-tables the $2kNL HU games on Full Tilt, running up some gigantic stacks along the way.

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Comments for DOGISHEAD (#2)

xxspaldingxx
Deuce High
5 posts
Joined 01/08

Your HU videos are amazing, very well done.

Posted May 25, 2008 2:23pm

Haterade
Pair of Deuces
144 posts
Joined 04/08

Enjoyed Video

Posted May 25, 2008 3:05pm

planB
Deuce High
7 posts
Joined 05/08

nais!

Posted May 25, 2008 3:20pm

SSankarAA
Deuce High
24 posts
Joined 04/08

if you keep pweening him in the next part of the video and you do not post it. i will revoke my membership, this vid is awesome

Posted May 25, 2008 3:46pm

xd40
Deuce High
4 posts
Joined 01/08

more hu!

Posted May 25, 2008 4:49pm

Toni Cogin
Deuce High
12 posts
Joined 01/08

Nice video.

Have a question about the A9o hand. Do you have other options then c/r allin on the turn?

* folding? After u call his 4bet on the flop, u think he is likely to continue his blufs? Because u rep a pretty big hand imo. Maybe he doesnt know what ur actual range is [(set, TPTK, some OESDs)]. ( Midpairs arent in your actual range, right? You dont c/r them alot i guess and call 4bet). He might think ur range is [(draws, weak mid/toppairs)] and will continue his blufs, like u said. So folding is not really an option, because his range STILL contains a lot of (semi)blufs.

* calling? After u call his turnbet the pot is like 3.5K with 1.8K effective behind. Why is calling not an option here? U want to protect your hand basically by shoving. A valueshove would be really thin imo. Sure this c-r shove will be +ev (because u'll win the pot a lot uncontested), but why is the ev of c/r allin on the turn bigger then check/calling the turn+evaluate river. The "If u call the turn, u have a really hard decision on the river" thing / reverse implied odds scenario?

Sorry for the chaos in my text :D.

Best regards,

Toni.

Posted May 25, 2008 5:24pm

Ulkis
Set of Deuces
380 posts
Joined 10/07

DOGISHEAD, I was rooting for you the whole time!

I don't usually watch HU videos but here villain was so "interesting"...

Those overbet donks on the flop with underpair, say with 66 on a AKT board, this is clearly FISH LOGIC: pair of 6's is clearly a good hand and to flop a high board like that is so so unfair. So it needs protecting. And because otherwise people will start putting moves on me (the fish) as they always do. So I gotta win the pot. Gotta win every pot.

Posted May 25, 2008 5:28pm

RuffRhyder
Deuce High
7 posts
Joined 02/08

Really nice video! Definitely post the second half. Enjoyed this one a lot.

Posted May 25, 2008 5:30pm

2fouroffsuit
Deuce High
96 posts
Joined 01/08

After seeing how awesome this vid was, Part 2 is pretty much mandatory imo.

Posted May 25, 2008 5:31pm

alexhandros
Deuce High
16 posts
Joined 01/08

This is an amazing video. Youre excellent at articulating your thought process and explaining all the slight differences in board textures, bet sizing, etc. that make heads up so interesting.

Posted May 25, 2008 5:35pm

Relvin
Deuce High
6 posts
Joined 04/08

Great video, would love to see you do a video of the second half of this match.

Posted May 25, 2008 5:48pm

kyotoisok
Deuce High
40 posts
Joined 01/08

excellent

Posted May 25, 2008 5:53pm

n0whereman
Deuces Full
583 posts
Joined 01/08

Math on the A7s shove at the end - hopefully I did this right:

Shoving 1780 to win 300, so pot is 3680 when called.

Against a range of 99+/AQ+, A7s has 30.3% equity. A7s's equity is fairly inelastic against most reasonable ranges (eg against TT+/AK the equity is 29.97%, against 77+/AJ+ it's 30.83%), so quibbling with my range here isn't really important (although it is at the end).

x = how often x_volta needs to fold

EV = dead money * how often he folds + (1 - how often he folds)*((equity when called*total pot when he calls)-amount we shove)
EV = 300*x + 1-x ((.303*3680)-1780)
hooray algebra
x = .689 or 69% of the time

So x_volta needs to fold 70% of the time for the shove to be +EV. Here's where x_volta's shove-calling range and 3-betting range are important. Given the range used in my calcs, he's calling with 5.1% of hands - this means he has to 3-bet more than 16.5% of the time for a shove to show profit. A range of any 2 broadways, 77+ and SCs down to 65s is 17.2% of hands, to give a reference point. If you widen x_volta's calling range to 77+/JJ+, our equity when called doesn't change, but the effectiveness of our shove does - in a bad way. Now x_volta's calling with 7.2% of hands, meaning he has to be 3-betting 23.8% of hands for our shove to show profit.


btw - great video dogishead. I though you did an excellent job reasoning your way through x_volta's unorthodox style.

Posted May 25, 2008 6:36pm

NoWayFolding
Deuce High
96 posts
Joined 03/08

Be cool if you could show the next part of the video.
Thought it was great!

I cant believe how calm/how well you played v this opponent.
Something I need to learn but at the start I would be getting v frustrated/ calling down lighter/ making more plays vs him, just because he is totally crazy.

Posted May 25, 2008 7:01pm

xorbie
Deuce High
30 posts
Joined 01/08

this x_volta character is madness incarnate.

Posted May 26, 2008 12:02am

pog0
Deuce High
10 posts
Joined 05/08

Enjoyed the video. Your objective reasoning really puts your HU videos ahead of a lot of others I've seen in my time. For example: calling his style unorthodox instead of bad. The fact of the matter is that you can't be sure if someone is bad if they're minraising preflop. Granted there's a strong correlation, but it isn't certain. Because you gave your opponent the proper respect, I feel like you were able to better and more objectively discuss hand ranges throughout the video.

Most of your analysis was spot on and your play was very respectable throughout. You articulated your thoughts very clearly, and your choice of content (playing against an unorthodox, but not completely uncommon opponent) was good.

I have a question though. You immediately berated him for 3-betting 4x, but then you proceeded to 3-bet >4x yourself. What is it about the initial minraise vs. an initial 3x that makes 3-betting larger more desirable. You mentioned that making the pot bigger preflop is beneficial to the oop player since it negates some of the positional advantage of the button, however, that logic should still hold for his 4x raises (unless you're always 4-betting or folding, then obviously one should lower their bet size as low as they can get away with).

Posted May 26, 2008 2:01am

sudic
Deuce High
14 posts
Joined 02/08

Second half please.

Posted May 26, 2008 3:51am

PanchoStern
Pair of Deuces
206 posts
Joined 02/08

Definately make part 2. Good job!

Posted May 26, 2008 4:53am

johnnyson
Deuce High
38 posts
Joined 02/08

so sick I love you dogishead :p, please post second half

Posted May 26, 2008 6:57am

SweetCow
Deuce High
4 posts
Joined 02/08

nice video

Posted May 26, 2008 10:22am

knubbo
Deuce High
1 post
Joined 01/08

great vid!

Posted May 26, 2008 10:43am

newdevil
Deuce High
8 posts
Joined 03/08

You made a excellent HU video dogishead.
2nd half please.

Posted May 26, 2008 4:27pm

Bikini Wax
Pair of Deuces
102 posts
Joined 03/08

your terrible, you might be the worse ever



on the real though nice video, I like the way you adjust vs minraising

Posted May 26, 2008 5:12pm

johnnyson
Deuce High
38 posts
Joined 02/08

your terrible, you might be the worse ever



on the real though nice video, I like the way you adjust vs minraising


please make video bikini pleaaaaase

Posted May 26, 2008 7:55pm

Speedlimits
Deuce High
11 posts
Joined 04/08

Nice video man but I had a question on the 88 hand where you check/called the flop on an AKA board. Wouldn't you rather c/r this flop since your opponent has a ton of real equity and any 9/10/J/Q/K kills your hand? Not to mention villains bluffing frequencies are unknown? As it stands, the turn and river were 3 and 4 but I think we are folding to often on the turn/river to c/c this flop, your thoughts?

Posted May 27, 2008 12:15am

caseace123
Deuce High
38 posts
Joined 02/08

apart from ur c/r on the QJ9CC board vs that maniac i thought the vid was great, plz do the second half

Posted May 27, 2008 1:16am

shootaa
Deuce High
12 posts
Joined 01/08

great video man, i hope to see part two, you're very solid

Posted May 27, 2008 4:39am

xorbie
Deuce High
30 posts
Joined 01/08

Haha part 2 is going to feature some fun hands iirc. Less rape also.

Posted May 27, 2008 11:13pm

easycall
Deuce High
4 posts
Joined 02/08

the 86ss vs ATo was pretty hilarious and a second video should come just cause of that hand, imo.

Posted May 28, 2008 1:35am

TaoJones
Deuce High
2 posts
Joined 01/08

this x_volta character is madness incarnate.



lol -- silly russians!

Posted May 28, 2008 8:00pm

weaktight
Deuce High
1 post
Joined 03/08

isnt X_volta from 2+2 pretty known player?

Posted May 29, 2008 6:24pm

xorbie
Deuce High
30 posts
Joined 01/08

It is me.

Posted May 29, 2008 7:47pm

bboy
Deuce High
5 posts
Joined 04/07

really good video. please make more.

Posted Jun 1, 2008 7:49pm

Ulkis
Set of Deuces
380 posts
Joined 10/07

I watched the 2nd part of this video which was so good I had to revise the 1st one.

All I can say is that when I can motormouth villain's ranges like that, I've arrived.

"2nd 3bet is for value anyway...cause that's how these things go." Golden.

Posted Jun 30, 2008 9:03pm

hooked
Deuce High
11 posts
Joined 01/08

Can any one show me the calculations when dogishead said he is 3 betting me to $240 which is 12bb which is 4 times my raise and he says its aful because for me to show a profit i need to 4 bet him 1 out of 5 times, how is this calculation done?

Posted Jul 2, 2008 11:16pm

andr3w321
Deuce High
2 posts
Joined 01/08

omg tytytytytyty INTERNETPOKERS
minraise the river ftw!

FullTiltPoker Game #7067452039: Table Arcade (deep hu) - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:42:05 ET - 2008/07/03
Seat 1: andr3w321 ($2,378.50)
Seat 2: jtlsave ($2,238.50)
andr3w321 posts the small blind of $5
jtlsave posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to andr3w321 [3h Ah]
andr3w321 raises to $30
jtlsave calls $20
*** FLOP *** [2c Qh 8h]
jtlsave checks
andr3w321 bets $45
jtlsave calls $45
*** TURN *** [2c Qh 8h] [3d]
jtlsave checks
andr3w321 has 15 seconds left to act
andr3w321 bets $120
jtlsave raises to $240
andr3w321 has 15 seconds left to act
andr3w321 calls $120
*** RIVER *** [2c Qh 8h 3d] [6h]
jtlsave bets $450
andr3w321 has 15 seconds left to act
andr3w321 raises to $900
jtlsave has 15 seconds left to act
jtlsave raises to $1,923.50, and is all in
andr3w321 calls $1,023.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jtlsave shows [Kc Jd] King Queen high
andr3w321 shows [3h Ah] a flush, Ace high
andr3w321 wins the pot ($4,476.50) with a flush, Ace high
jtlsave adds $285.25
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4,477 | Rake $0.50
Board: [2c Qh 8h 3d 6h]
Seat 1: andr3w321 (small blind) showed [3h Ah] and won ($4,476.50) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: jtlsave (big blind) showed [Kc Jd] and lost with King Queen high

Posted Jul 3, 2008 8:48am

KCjason
Deuce High
9 posts
Joined 01/08

I have a question though. You immediately berated him for 3-betting 4x, but then you proceeded to 3-bet >4x yourself. What is it about the initial minraise vs. an initial 3x that makes 3-betting larger more desirable. You mentioned that making the pot bigger preflop is beneficial to the oop player since it negates some of the positional advantage of the button, however, that logic should still hold for his 4x raises (unless you're always 4-betting or folding, then obviously one should lower their bet size as low as they can get away with).

Posted Aug 26, 2008 9:05pm