Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by Joe Tall (Micro/Small Stakes)

Small editors note: I spent probably 8 hours getting the audio tuned up on this one as best I could. There were some very strange Skype errors (echoing and skipping) and Patty's mic wasn't the best quality, unfortunately, but I really think the quality turned out quite well in the end. The content more than makes up for it yet -- this is probably my favorite LNC episode yet. Hope y'all agree with me.

Rob

I really liked this vid would love to see 2 of you do a FR series when this one is over of course.

I spent probably 8 hours getting the audio tuned up on this one as best I could
Rob

Wow - sorry about that Rob, the session was planned pretty quickly so I had to rush out and buy a headset that afternoon. That headset is going in the bin and I will get something a bit more suitable (any suggestions/advice on the best model appreciated).
My accent doesn't help either but thanks for sorting this out.

Wow - sorry about that Rob, the session was planned pretty quickly so I had to rush out and buy a headset that afternoon. That headset is going in the bin and I will get something a bit more suitable (suggestions/advice on the best model appreciated).
My accent doesn't help either but thanks for sorting this out.

I've spent more time doing less, so no worries. I'm a HUGE nit for audio fidelity and hopefully it shows in our production quality -- but I gave 5 minutes listen to this one and saw the discussion on the JTo bluffraise and thought "no way in hell am I letting this go to waste."

Rob

As far as headsets, I don't know what is available in your area, but both Plantronics and Sennheiser headsets w/noise cancelling USB chips (this part is important -- USB headsets are WAY better than normal headsets) are a great think to look into.

Also, a ton of the audio issues were actually the fault of Skype and not your headset, though I'm sure your headset wasn't optimal comparatively to the other two.

Rob

WOW, just wow. This video was good and I enjoyed to watch it. I can't wait part2...

Nice job guys.

I personally think shrinking the raise size with the shortstack behind is significantly better than 4 call it off with JTo

I use minraise, or 2.5x with the shortstacker in the blinds, with my whole range, FR shortstacks don't ship it in nearly as often as the 6max variety, so getting yourself potstuck with a weak hand like JTo isn't something I want to do(granted I do my best to not play with shortstacks)

i havent watched this but my comment is re: the audio.

have you thought about hosting a Ventrilo server and using that to do group videos instead of Skype?
i havent used Ventrilo in a while, but it used to be the shiznit when we played CS, DOD, etc.

i havent watched this but my comment is re: the audio.

have you thought about hosting a Ventrilo server and using that to do group videos instead of Skype?
i havent used Ventrilo in a while, but it used to be the shiznit when we played CS, DOD, etc.

I'm looking into Ventrilo as well as the Gizmo project right now for audio fidelity. The difficulty with Ventrilo is that I've yet to find the same in-box solutions that we have right now for recording the conversations in high-quality format. If anyone has a solution for Ventrilo recording that'd be sweet.

Rob

Ive used mikogo in the past for sweat sessions along with skype and it worked well i notice now they have a version with audio probably worth a try its a great free tool http://www.mikogo.com/Welcome.aspx

I'm looking into Ventrilo as well as the Gizmo project right now for audio fidelity. The difficulty with Ventrilo is that I've yet to find the same in-box solutions that we have right now for recording the conversations in high-quality format. If anyone has a solution for Ventrilo recording that'd be sweet.

Rob

Well in ventrilo (I'm using 2.3.0 so not the newest, but I'm sure it's in the newest too) you can leftmouse click on the servername, go to view and go to Record / Playback. There you can record everything happening in the ventrilo channel you're in. After that you can save it.
I'm not sure if the saved file is helpfull to you (because of limitations of other audio programs maybe), but give it a shot when you got some time.

I personally think shrinking the raise size with the shortstack behind is significantly better than 4 call it off with JTo

I use minraise, or 2.5x with the shortstacker in the blinds, with my whole range, FR shortstacks don't ship it in nearly as often as the 6max variety, so getting yourself potstuck with a weak hand like JTo isn't something I want to do(granted I do my best to not play with shortstacks)

Yep minraise/2.5xBB is very good idea if there is shortstacker(s) in the blinds and I am using it.

I personally think shrinking the raise size with the shortstack behind is significantly better than 4 call it off with JTo

I use minraise, or 2.5x with the shortstacker in the blinds, with my whole range, FR shortstacks don't ship it in nearly as often as the 6max variety, so getting yourself potstuck with a weak hand like JTo isn't something I want to do(granted I do my best to not play with shortstacks)

I agree with this. Since the sser is playing push/fold there I would rather make a smaller bet just because I have pretty much the same chance of stealing the blinds while risking less chips imo.

Great video cant wait for part 2.

When talking about 4 betting how do you decide how much to make it? Assuming around 100bb stacks do you always go to a certain % of your stack like 30% or what? This is definitly a weakness in my game and help would be very appreciated.

I like to make it ~30%, that is enough to make the villan realise this is for stacks so if he has junk or even something of value like AQ/88 he has a decision to make.

As Nolan points out its really feel based and depends on the dynamic between the players.
Certainly one thing Id say is not to 4-bet and then not know what to do getting 2-1 on your call, you need to have an idea of the villans 5-bet shove range and how your hand fares against this. If you have ~30% equity or more 4-bet folding is a mistake.

The hand I played isnt something Id do too often, it was situational because I hadnt had a hand to play back at this guy up to that point and I felt the gap between his 3-bet range (PPs, SCs, premiums and random trash) and his 5-bet shove range (TT+, AK imo) was huge.
Also I felt I was 20-25% against his shove range so I knew before I bet what I was doing had he shoved.

Nolan's points have really got me thinking now! I need to look at all this much closer because I assume that it's going to become all the more common to get in these spots.

*Also I realise now that the initial open raise is actually pretty bad when I think about it, A4 is actually worse than random junk here. Especially against someone who plays back from the blinds.

I personally think shrinking the raise size with the shortstack behind is significantly better than 4 call it off with JTo

I use minraise, or 2.5x with the shortstacker in the blinds, with my whole range, FR shortstacks don't ship it in nearly as often as the 6max variety, so getting yourself potstuck with a weak hand like JTo isn't something I want to do(granted I do my best to not play with shortstacks)

LOL, I noted that from your vids and its a really intresting point. I use minraising if im SB with a proper nit in the BB (great if you have noticed them using "autofold" pre-selected).

A couple of questions on the open raise size.
(1) To quote Wilt On Tilt from the first episode, do we risk turning a non thinking player into a thinking player with the minraises? Thats why I make it 3 against nits somtimes, they may notice a min-raise is different but not think that 3bb is strange.
(2) Taking my hand as an example with a proper nit SS in the bb. What if the BB is decent and you know he is paying attention? Do you still use the smaller raise, standard raise or just let it go?

I think Im going to make it 4bb from now on, unless I KNOW the remaining players wont pick up the information Im giving them.

gret vid - the sound was fine

I'd love to hear more from nolan on the always open for 4BB in part 2(soon please)

I really like this format and would love some more NLH FR late night vids if you can do some with bottomset or DJ that would be great

really grate video!!
when is part 2 ready??

Looking foward to part 2 as part 1 had all IP hands some blind defence/ oop hands would bet great i think.

gret vid - the sound was fine

I'd love to hear more from nolan on the always open for 4BB in part 2(soon please)

I really like this format and would love some more NLH FR late night vids if you can do some with bottomset or DJ that would be great

i wasn't saying to ONLY open for 4bb in full ring poker. rather i was trying to say that if your standard open raise is 4bb I think that it is more deceptive and practical to keep this amount consistent (for the most part) rather than mixing it up with various hand ranges in various positions. makes your job easier and your opponents job tougher (generally).

sorry for the misconception.

fwiw, i open for 3bb in most of the games i play.

Respect!(*****)

No offense dude but please learn to speak better. Too many of your sentences sound like questions.

No offense dude but please learn to speak better. Too many of your sentences sound like questions.

If you are talking to me then perhaps that's because I was mostly asking questions.

No offense dude but please learn to speak better. Too many of your sentences sound like questions.

and if you're talking to me, i'm not sure if this is true.

but even if it is, we'll just say i'm employing the socratic method

No offense dude but please learn to speak better. Too many of your sentences sound like questions.

And if you're talking to Joe Tall, his role in this was asking questions.

I am getting some conflicting noises from other sources. Nolan says (or I think he says this, correct me if I'm wrong) it is a leak when you try to steal in late position and you bet smaller just because if a shortstack shoved you could fold. So you bet smaller in case shortstack shoves. So does he advocate tightening the range instead?

this thread needed BUMPIN' anyway.

I am getting some conflicting noises from other sources. Nolan says (or I think he says this, correct me if I'm wrong) it is a leak when you try to steal in late position and you bet smaller just because if a shortstack shoved you could fold. So you bet smaller in case shortstack shoves. So does he advocate tightening the range instead?

Time stamp so we can hear exactly what Nolan is saying?

Yes Ulkis,

I advocate tightening your range in this scenario to properly adjust to shorty.

It looks like this is about a year old or so. Just watched it...one of the best I've seen on DC so far. Great work!