Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by sthief09 (Micro/Small Stakes)

Oh man I remember that AK v AQ hand and knowing exactly what you had and calling anyway.

Time Link to 00:30:39

Wow,

All my pokerbuddies constantly tell me how much of a loose monkey i am, but I snapfold 88 here. The guy seems decent judging from his stats, and he bets into a field lead by an 8/4 UTG raiser. Even if his range is skewed towards big draws, and we have the nominal best hand right now, i have 2 questions.

1. how often is he gonna be a slight favorite vs our hand or at least flipping equity wise?

2. How often are we gonna get the best hand to showdown, without just closing our eyes and clicking call?

If i put any more money in postflop I'll most liekly be leading out but even that is questionable vs what comes down to a QQ+/AK opening range + three other players.

Time Link to 00:35:46

OK, i hadn't watched the hand til the end, but it seems you guys finally also agree that flop is a fold.

OK, i hadn't watched the hand til the end, but it seems you guys finally also agree that flop is a fold.

I toss the 88 without much thought as played because I can't envision being able to play it in a +EV way.

Wow,

All my pokerbuddies constantly tell me how much of a loose monkey i am, but I snapfold 88 here. The guy seems decent judging from his stats, and he bets into a field lead by an 8/4 UTG raiser. Even if his range is skewed towards big draws, and we have the nominal best hand right now, i have 2 questions.

1. how often is he gonna be a slight favorite vs our hand or at least flipping equity wise?

2. How often are we gonna get the best hand to showdown, without just closing our eyes and clicking call?

If i put any more money in postflop I'll most liekly be leading out but even that is questionable vs what comes down to a QQ+/AK opening range + three other players.

yeah you're right (I see you wrote below that at the end we both did agree that folding is best). there is a certain stack size where calling would be correct. if our call put us all-in it's a +EV call. if we had around 2x the BB's bet, then we could probably go all-in profitably. if we had like 3x his bet, then maybe we could call and dodge an Ace/diamond and push. but with full stacks, it's too likely we put in lots of money only to fold later or realize we had 2 outs all along. it really is a classic reverse implied odds situation.

Oh man I remember that AK v AQ hand and knowing exactly what you had and calling anyway.

Yeah, obviously nothing you can do there. He'd play AQ or AJ the same way. With that said, you might be better off pushing the turn. If he's barreling with a flush draw or small pair he's almost certainly not bluffing the river. If he has a weak Ace he might not value bet the river but might talk himself into calling your push. Usually I agree with calling in spots like this but if villain isn't bluffing the river, you might as well just protect your hand in case he has some outs.

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AK 3betting OOP against a min-raise. Why only $8? I would make it $10 or $11, but $11 in this spot since he's cally. Thoughts? Thanks, Yojimgari

Time Link to 00:38:00

88 hand:
I would check-evaluate the flop. It's five ways so you have less fold equity. You also have less backdoor fold equity on a turn A/K/Q/J since somebody may have something strong. You don't have much pot equity with the 88. You don't have any backdoor pot equity because you are looking for the other two 8's only.

As played I would fold to the bet. If villain has 99 or better you are in bad shape, and will often check-fold the turn or river, and it will be tough to get villain to fold. Villain's strong and medium draws still have a lot of pot equity and fold equity against you. You have to hope that villain has 88-55/22/8d7d/8d6d here to call I think. I would fold here. Even if you are ahead you will get out drawn or bluffed out too much, and have only invested a little bit. Good luck, Yojimgari

Time Link to 00:42:30

88 hand:
Maybe villain checks behind some or all of this range on the turn:
TT-88,AJs,A7s,KJs,J9s+,97s,87s,76s,AJo You have 26.25% equity, 40 combos

If you bet he can fold 19 combos:
99-88,A7s,97s,87s,76s,Js9s,Jc9c

But if he bets a 7 on the turn:
TT-88,AJs,KJs,J9s+,AJo You have 1.67% equity, 30 combos

If you bet he can fold 9 combos:
99-88,Js9s,Jc9c

I wonder if a thin bluff is not good on the river to get him fold 99/88/J9s? Maybe it's not good because he could still have a 7 or 55 right? Thanks, Yojimgari

Time Link to 00:42:50

66 hand:
Are you sure that we should 3bet here? You have like 108 to one implied odds to call. 66 doesn't seem like a hand where we can 3bet for thin value here. I'd 3bet 99 maybe, but not sure about 66. If you call, I think villain will pay off your sets, and let you get to showdown cheaply with a marginal pair, although I'm not sure how often he'll fold a bluff check-raise, thoughts? Thanks, Yojimgari

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K7 hand:
You open in SB to 3bb with a 8/4 over 123 hands in BB. I would recommend min-raising 100% of hands here. You will lose less when villain calls with a strong hand. I also don't think he will adjust enough and start calling a lot more hands to a min-raise, since he's not as good since he's 8/4. Thoughts? Thanks, Yojimgari

Thanks for making this video, nice work. When are you going to another video Josh/Sthief09? King for a day 4 would be pretty good! Maybe a ghost video this season sometime? Good luck, Yojimgari

AK 3betting OOP against a min-raise. Why only $8? I would make it $10 or $11, but $11 in this spot since he's cally. Thoughts? Thanks, Yojimgari

I agree, since he's out of position. In position, I'm not too picky about 3-bet sizing.

88 hand:
I would check-evaluate the flop. It's five ways so you have less fold equity. You also have less backdoor fold equity on a turn A/K/Q/J since somebody may have something strong. You don't have much pot equity with the 88. You don't have any backdoor pot equity because you are looking for the other two 8's only.

I still think it's close, mostly because I don't think we're beaten too often even 5 ways. It can't work both ways. Either we have a lot of fold equity, or we can get some value from our hand. I think it's the former, and that a bet takes it down a lot. Barreling with AK or AQ would be better than with 88 since made hands worse than 77 likely fold the turn.

If we check, we're usually folding. If no one bets the flop because we're ahead, we'll usually get turned (or bluffed) by one of the 4 villains. So betting is essentially the only way to win the pot. In hindsight, simply forfeiting this pot isn't as weak as I thought when we recorded the video.

88 hand:
Maybe villain checks behind some or all of this range on the turn:
TT-88,AJs,A7s,KJs,J9s+,97s,87s,76s,AJo You have 26.25% equity, 40 combos

If you bet he can fold 19 combos:
99-88,A7s,97s,87s,76s,Js9s,Jc9c

But if he bets a 7 on the turn:
TT-88,AJs,KJs,J9s+,AJo You have 1.67% equity, 30 combos

If you bet he can fold 9 combos:
99-88,Js9s,Jc9c

I wonder if a thin bluff is not good on the river to get him fold 99/88/J9s? Maybe it's not good because he could still have a 7 or 55 right? Thanks, Yojimgari

Another benefit of betting is that it stops bluffs from 7x or 55. I would say this is very opponent dependent. Some more predictable villains might bluff the turn but check back QT and worse. More aggressive types (the ones you see with 50%+ turn c-bet stats) will balance their range by bluffing a lot and also betting JT. Weak opponents might only bet TP+. Bluffing the river is worst against the first type (he bluffs the turn, but checks back with AJ and such). It's best against the middle type whose range is more prominently made up of that small J9s,99-88 segment you mentioned.

K7 hand:
You open in SB to 3bb with a 8/4 over 123 hands in BB. I would recommend min-raising 100% of hands here. You will lose less when villain calls with a strong hand. I also don't think he will adjust enough and start calling a lot more hands to a min-raise, since he's not as good since he's 8/4. Thoughts? Thanks, Yojimgari

Agreed.

Thanks for making this video, nice work. When are you going to another video Josh/Sthief09? King for a day 4 would be pretty good! Maybe a ghost video this season sometime? Good luck, Yojimgari

Thanks. I have a couple of mentor vids coming out this season, and am doing something with Mt. Robusto too. Thanks for the great questions as always. If I ever do another King for a Day, I'll definitely make sure you're involved again. I hope all is well.

Thanks for the responses and info! This is very helpful, and I am learning from TecmoSuperBowl's LAGgy style too. I look forward to the other videos. Thanks, Yojimgari

Time Link to 00:22:46

Do you still cbet w/o the Ad?

Do you still cbet w/o the Ad?

against a bad player, I may c/c with it since I'm comfortable being without the initiative OOP. Against a relatively unknown reg who appears on the aggro side, I'm probably betting or c/f'ing. I think betting is okay here. If the board is more coordinated like 975 or J92 two-tone then I'm more likely to just give up because my outs are not as clean and I'm less likely to win with one bet.