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Push: OnTheRail15 (#1) - HU LHE SNG

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Push: OnTheRail15 (#1) - HU LHE SNG by OnTheRail15

OnTheRail15 plays a $2000 buy-in HU LHE SnG and discusses his play and his opponent's play as they vie for dominance.

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  • Game: mttsng
  • Stakes: High Stakes
  • 50 minutes long
  • Posted over 1 year ago

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Comments for Push: OnTheRail15 (#1) - HU LHE SNG

bluffindeuce

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Time Link to 00:08:40

What hands do you targeting here that will b/f the river?

Posted almost 2 years ago

OnTheRail15

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On that board texture? Anything from Qx that he's barreling without reason to like 8x. I'd expect some villains to b/f a pair somewhat regularly on this texture. As it turned out, this villain wasn't one of them Poke Tongue

Posted almost 2 years ago

Kulk

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Nice video! What BR requirements would you recommend for HU LHE SNGs?

Posted almost 2 years ago

mikefut

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Really sweet vid. I'd never considered playing HULHE SnGs before, but I may try a few to mix things up. Any insight into bankroll requirements?

Posted almost 2 years ago

OnTheRail15

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Really sweet vid. I'd never considered playing HULHE SnGs before, but I may try a few to mix things up. Any insight into bankroll requirements?




I'm not really 100% sure but 50 buy-ins seems pretty safe, probably less if you're willing to move down when you run bad.

Posted almost 2 years ago

considerator

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Cool vid. Interesting to see just how much you adjust to exploit this player's clear and recognizable style. Capping 3 streets with Ax two pair being the most memorable example- I would have incorrectly slowed down sooner.

Posted almost 2 years ago

simpleasspie

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Time Link to 00:14:11

Cool vid, but over 35% equitySmile On the turn you have like 8+6 and less outs, that is like 26% and less of equity. You said youre not that good at math, but its kinda interesting, if you have misspoken or actually thought you can have that much equity with a draw on the turn?)

Posted almost 2 years ago

OnTheRail15

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Cool vid, but over 35% equitySmile On the turn you have like 8+6 and less outs, that is like 26% and less of equity. You said youre not that good at math, but its kinda interesting, if you have misspoken or actually thought you can have that much equity with a draw on the turn?)




I dunno where you're getting 26% and less (8+6)/45=31.1+ card removal etc... I forgot to discount for the times my pairs aren't good. We have like 30-33% in that case. Pairs are the nuts though so why can't I just assume that they'd always be good?

Posted almost 2 years ago

simpleasspie

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I dunno where you're getting 26% and less (8+6)/45=31.1+ card removal etc... I forgot to discount for the times my pairs aren't good. We have like 30-33% in that case. Pairs are the nuts though so why can't I just assume that they'd always be good?



I havent calculated that way exactly Smile I did it other way and intuitively decreased our equity cuz of the fact that he has 3bet pre and bet 2streets, if we stove it against like 35% range we have 24%, but its a raw range - not discounted hands which hed be more likely to check, like we see he has a stong value-orineted range later.

Not to be the nit, but 35% sounded too god to meSmile Either way, I said that not to be just: cool vid, make some more.

Posted almost 2 years ago

liquid_quik

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Time Link to 00:15:32

here you're talking about how his range to 3bet the turn is still value oriented, but you think would include flush draws... is that just because you consider 2 overs + FD a strong enough hand to value 3bet? or he thinks that it does?

it seems counter intuitive to me to include draws in his value range.

Posted almost 2 years ago

liquid_quik

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Time Link to 00:27:47

you talk about barreling the turn in the limped pot with 95o

I've been thinking about the hands that can peel there given what we know about his range and tendencies.

First, we've seen him peel T3 in a SRP, which would be a good reason to barrel.
We've also seen him fold a similar board texture right away after he limped and then we raised. that would be a good reason to give up.

he seems like he would fast play a lot of pairs, so i think when he has Tx or Kx (which i think he raises almost all his Kx) he probably raises flop.

It doesnt make a lot of sense for him to have 47 or whatever two random cards on that board, because its a small pot and folding (or bluff raising) is(are) superior play(s).

His most likely hand is 3x, imo, and i liked the way you played it by taking a stab and giving up immediately. afterwards.

Funny that he checked back the turn, i guess he was hoping you'd stab the river?

Posted almost 2 years ago

OnTheRail15

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here you're talking about how his range to 3bet the turn is still value oriented, but you think would include flush draws... is that just because you consider 2 overs + FD a strong enough hand to value 3bet? or he thinks that it does?

it seems counter intuitive to me to include draws in his value range.



Yeah my point was that he has a value oriented range but he probably has some of his flush and straight draws some of the time.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Such A Card

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Time Link to 00:41:37

Given the frequency that he's 3 betting lately out of position, what do you think of capping your A4s here on the button preflop? You have inherent showdown value and you may get a thinner flop call out of him if he doesn't connect so you'd get a little extra value because the pot is bigger. I say this because a couple hands before he c/f a 6 or 7 bet pot on the flop when most hands should have continued.

Posted almost 2 years ago

OnTheRail15

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Given the frequency that he's 3 betting lately out of position, what do you think of capping your A4s here on the button preflop? You have inherent showdown value and you may get a thinner flop call out of him if he doesn't connect so you'd get a little extra value because the pot is bigger. I say this because a couple hands before he c/f a 6 or 7 bet pot on the flop when most hands should have continued.




It's probably fine either way. The thing is, when they have such a wide preflop range, even if they tend to check sometimes postflop, they're going to be barreling with nothing enough that you'll want to have some high card strength in your preflop calling range. This hand might be too strong not to cap though. I'm not sure.

Posted almost 2 years ago

OnTheRail15

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As a side note, I like how this is part of the "Push" series. I mean, I guess eventually you DO go all in.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Michaelooch

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OTR,
Iv'e seen that you play both FT and stars sngs. Can you explain a bit about the benefits/detriments of the different structures for skilled players vs less skilled players and which ones you prefer and why

Posted almost 2 years ago

OnTheRail15

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OTR,
Iv'e seen that you play both FT and stars sngs. Can you explain a bit about the benefits/detriments of the different structures for skilled players vs less skilled players and which ones you prefer and why




Well the most obvious difference is that the structure is much slower on stars than on full tilt. In a local situation (ie game to game), our ROI will be higher on stars than on ftp, but I prefer FTP's structure for this reason:

I like that the FTP sit n goes have more gamble involved. This makes them more attractive to people who like the variance of these gambles. These players tend to be weaker and since our ROI is smaller, they keep their money for a longer period of time. They also don't like playing a sit n go for an hour or more and they certainly don't want to play multiple hour long sit n goes.

Posted almost 2 years ago

ttpmaven

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Well the most obvious difference is that the structure is much slower on stars than on full tilt. In a local situation (ie game to game), our ROI will be higher on stars than on ftp, but I prefer FTP's structure for this reason:

I like that the FTP sit n goes have more gamble involved. This makes them more attractive to people who like the variance of these gambles. These players tend to be weaker and since our ROI is smaller, they keep their money for a longer period of time. They also don't like playing a sit n go for an hour or more and they certainly don't want to play multiple hour long sit n goes.


I don't know your sample size in these, but what do you think an attainable ROI is in the $2k? What about lower buy-ins?

Thanks for the video. The 5% tourney fees are saving me a ton of rake compared to 2/4 and 3/6 cash on a hand for hand basis. It gets closer for me starting at 5/10, but it takes a while to get people to sit with you since there are often 20 tables of regs waiting in the lobby.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Turkish Fish

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can DC make a LHE HUSNG series ?
my vote for coaches making it: DeathDonkey, Danzasmack, OnTheRail15

Posted about 1 year ago

liquid_quik

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can DC make a LHE HUSNG series ?
my vote for coaches making it: DeathDonkey, Danzasmack, OnTheRail15



if you play husngs the same as a cash game, you wont be making mistakes. the only small differences to consider would be in a deep slow structure getting to showdown more to see whats up, and playing near the end should be standard if you've played until you've busted people before

Posted about 1 year ago

ChawkDee

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Time Link to 00:32:53

Please explain what you mean by 'betting for value' here - you have only K high.

Posted 10 months ago

El Grande

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there are many draws to bet against for value with king ten here, any 5 Q5 J5 T5 or any 2 hearts will call, a check back here is giving all those hands a free card without charging. he is also the type of opponent who would put in too much action with any pair so a drawing hand is more likely his holding. when he donks the turn however his range is more likely to contain a low pair but i think he would also make this play with a 5 so calling the turn and re-evaluating the river is the best play here. the 7 river makes this hand an easy fold in my opinion

Posted 2 months ago



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