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Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by Joe Tall (Mid Stakes)

Can't wait to review this =p
Will get to it later tonight/tomorrow

Time Link to 00:23:03

Why not raise 7th since he's repping 77 on the early streets with a possible worse 2 pair on 7th. KK in the hole is such a small part of his range -- don't you think you're missing value here?

Time Link to 00:27:55

Can you explain why a bet/fold is better than a check/call here? He doesn't have to have the flush and you have reasonable showdown hand for half in a relatively big pot.

It seems like ceegee is playing very agro throughout and you are folding a lot on later streets. Wouldn't you prefer to showdown lighter against such an opponent? It seems so exploitable when you fold so much on the later streets (particularly it seemed in O8). Would be interesting to see one of these with both sets of hole cards exposed.

Why not raise 7th since he's repping 77 on the early streets with a possible worse 2 pair on 7th. KK in the hole is such a small part of his range -- don't you think you're missing value here?

No. I think there is too much value in a showdown, dont forget he has A77, and can make Ks-up as well, which are the only hands he'll call me with.

Can you explain why a bet/fold is better than a check/call here? He doesn't have to have the flush and you have reasonable showdown hand for half in a relatively big pot.

Agreed. I would check-call normally and should have, tough to make a HU-multi-game vid and play A+ game, but I think I'm doing better than I thought I would honestly.

It seems like ceegee is playing very agro throughout and you are folding a lot on later streets. Wouldn't you prefer to showdown lighter against such an opponent? It seems so exploitable when you fold so much on the later streets (particularly it seemed in O8). Would be interesting to see one of these with both sets of hole cards exposed.

We only played about 100 hands, I'm sure variance had more to do with this than anything.

Time Link to 00:02:33

It would work if I wasn't coached by the two best LHE players in the world OTR and BBB imo

Time Link to 00:04:07

ya this was my spew of the match obvi

Time Link to 00:12:53

The raise is to rep a 4 flush with a low or maybe two pair and you don't always have a hand here yet so it gives me some added fold equity, plus if you only have one pair I am freerolling you

Time Link to 00:21:19

Gotta be aggro HU imo, if you play too passively you will give up too much value even with the small antes because I know you fold a bunch and aren't aggro so I have to be aggro

Time Link to 00:22:39

Why don't you raise your pair of 8s here? Do you really give me that much credit for 9s+ in the hole? Even if I do im not 3 betting and you can take a free card on 6th if you like. The ace in the hole is a perfect opportunity for this especially if you are calling down. Anything you catch will allow you to bet for value or you can take the free card.

On 7th just raise 7th I mean the pot is big enough that I'm not really folding and you could be bluffing a missed flush draw which makes me call light on the river

Can you explain why a bet/fold is better than a check/call here? He doesn't have to have the flush and you have reasonable showdown hand for half in a relatively big pot.

I only had the nut low here. JT shoulda check called imo

Time Link to 00:29:47

I did it because you're line didn't make sense so I figured I could knock you off some weak hand as you folded to my last river raise

Time Link to 00:36:16

you are calling with a pair often imo and the bet is going in anyway so I bet fold the river a bunch

Time Link to 00:41:06

not too much of a bluff when I can scoop on half the deck on the river

Time Link to 00:43:31

how do you fold the river?? It makes hands that I rarely hold.

Time Link to 00:46:18

Raise fold 3rd imo. On 5th You did just have a pair, but I was obviously repping a better pair and you only have 3 aces and 2 3s and we'll add 1-2 outs with the backdoor not giving you the greatest outs as both shut down your action which doesn;t matter too much because you want to take down the pot. But ya I don't like calling and praying

He deff. ran you over, now that being said i dont think he would have been able to do so if he wasn't running so good. I think that his amped up aggression deff. caused you to make some tilty reraises but it happens to the best of us in the heat of the moment. I also think that his aggression made you flip your hand face up in a lot of spots esp. in LHE. Either way that was very entertaining and there are deff. some things to take away from this vid. keep up the good work and run better next time.

btw the rake is murder down there.......but obv. you guys were just playing a stake where the money had no meaning other than showing who won and who lost.

Time Link to 00:05:27

Would you fold river if you bricked getting 3:1 on the low?

Time Link to 00:05:58

How do you think the composition of his check raising range differs from this board to the A78ccc board a few hands earlier. I assume this board will have more high hands (as he will plays 2pairs, combo draws more aggressively) but I also think he will be raising more low draws + something else (AQ35 etc) compared to the other board.

Basically what I'm getting at is will our mediocre low draw be good more often on this board or the one before it? Or is it too hard/complicated to say?

Time Link to 00:26:12

If you're betting turn are you barreling blank rivers as a bluff to fold Tx and underpairs with a spade or are they just putting you on **s and calling? Also I assume you'd bluff a 4th spade?

Would you fold river if you bricked getting 3:1 on the low?

Not on that board, ceegee is not always c/r the flop w/a low, he could have a flush/2pair, etc.

How do you think the composition of his check raising range differs from this board to the A78ccc board a few hands earlier. I assume this board will have more high hands (as he will plays 2pairs, combo draws more aggressively) but I also think he will be raising more low draws + something else (AQ35 etc) compared to the other board.

Basically what I'm getting at is will our mediocre low draw be good more often on this board or the one before it? Or is it too hard/complicated to say?

Little complicated but yes, I do feel my mediocre low will be good more often on the c/r of the A-high monotone board.

If you're betting turn are you barreling blank rivers as a bluff to fold Tx and underpairs with a spade or are they just putting you on **s and calling? Also I assume you'd bluff a 4th spade?

I'm actually betting to get slight value from all his Q*s hands and then likely taking a free showdown UI as there is no value in a pair of 3s.