Choparno
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Choparno
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Are we check-raising the turn just because we expect him to have total air a lot that will fold to a second barrel and won't fire again on the river if we c/c?
Presumably, his stack off range will be the same whether we bet turn or c/r, so the question is how to determine whether he has air or a worse one pair hand. If you expect him to have air a lot or semibluffs that shut down on the river unless he outdraws you, I think your line is best, but if he has a 7x or Qx type of hand, I think there's a danger he correctly interprets the c/r as a value line and bet-folds, where he might otherwise have called turn/called river.
If we do weight is flop calling range towards air, do you think you should consider betting bigger on the flop (you bet just over 1/2 pot I think), so that you win more when he bluffs the turn? Obviously you don't want to bet so big that he simply folds the flop, but I'm wondering how important it is to keep our bet sizing balanced in this spot against an unknown, vs trying to get maximum value from his expected floats.
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Choparno
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How should we interpret Blanco's 3bet sizing to 18x in this spot? My assumption when I see this is that he is telling you you have no fold equity on a 4bet shove, which suggests that he rarely has a monster.
That being the case, should we be more likely to jam a hand like AJ? What range should we be shoving given stack sizes and his 3bet sizing?
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IWEARGOGGLES
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Would be great if you could discuss your calling/shoving ranges a bit more in these interesting 15-30bb spots. E.g. the AJs hand, what's the worst hand you would be calling with in the BB here, given the hijack min raise and CO jam for 19bbs?
I think AT would be the bottom of my range, honestly. The reason I say that is because I constructed his range based on some limited information.
1) HJ minraise (most people presume this is wide, I think they are correct).
2) Amount shoved. 19BBs over a minraise leaves you plenty of fold equity.
3) Average skill level in the 150r is pretty tough.
If the tournament was softer, my range tightens considerably and you can throw all my assumptions out the window 
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IWEARGOGGLES
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Are we check-raising the turn just because we expect him to have total air a lot that will fold to a second barrel and won't fire again on the river if we c/c?
Presumably, his stack off range will be the same whether we bet turn or c/r, so the question is how to determine whether he has air or a worse one pair hand. If you expect him to have air a lot or semibluffs that shut down on the river unless he outdraws you, I think your line is best, but if he has a 7x or Qx type of hand, I think there's a danger he correctly interprets the c/r as a value line and bet-folds, where he might otherwise have called turn/called river.
If we do weight is flop calling range towards air, do you think you should consider betting bigger on the flop (you bet just over 1/2 pot I think), so that you win more when he bluffs the turn? Obviously you don't want to bet so big that he simply folds the flop, but I'm wondering how important it is to keep our bet sizing balanced in this spot against an unknown, vs trying to get maximum value from his expected floats.
I think I mentioned this at the end of the video, but my plan basically changed mid-hand and I still am unsure as to which option is better. My cop-out answer is that stereotyping someone's flop calling range as an aggressive player is pretty dangerous. I suppose I just decided that once he bet the turn he had a strong enough range to make raising better than calling because of the action-killing rivers that could come out. So I guess c/ring the turn makes the hand easier to play and allows him to make more *big* mistakes.
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IWEARGOGGLES
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How should we interpret Blanco's 3bet sizing to 18x in this spot? My assumption when I see this is that he is telling you you have no fold equity on a 4bet shove, which suggests that he rarely has a monster.
That being the case, should we be more likely to jam a hand like AJ? What range should we be shoving given stack sizes and his 3bet sizing?
I was 3-bet shoved on by an 18x stack. 
It wasn't Blanco. UB's software is weird.
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Choparno
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seems like you dont do a lot of set mining even pretty deep (40-1 implied odds) ....why is that? you folded 77s 33s 77s in the last couple videos and all of them seemed deep enough to set mine?? do you look for super deep stacks to call with small/mid pairs for some reason???
i am going to guess and say most villains the implied odds where not that great in these things were the villains will not stack off enough to make a longshot kinda move very profitable.
also, the chips he loses early loses him a chance to use his edge late a bit. If the vast majority of the time you are just c/f or folding to leads, you are most of the time burning up those chips. You want to maximize the probability to have chips later in tournies by passing up spots where you are going to most the time be losing chips.
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Sick series. It has improved my MTT play dramatically this month and i've been gettin some deep runs and final tables as a result, which used to happen like once every solar eclipse. I really like Vanessa's indepth and almost unauthadox approach and thought process in some spots. She looks outside the "standard" lines and gives you more to think about and it's defiantely something I will be trying to think about more, although it is semi-titlting sometimes 
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