Poker Video: MTT/SNG by bones (Micro/Small Stakes)

http://www.riskoriented.com/2009/10/better-than-nash-shoving-equilibriums.html

Bones, that was a dang good video. really enjoyed it. For a new player to HU SNG's would using that HUD of yours be to much at first?

Thanks jrw.

Rollo, glad you enjoyed it. You can certainly work your way into the hud by just starting with preflop stats (don't worry about 4 bet stats) and cbet stuff and just add on when you feel comfortable processing all of that info.

Here is the nash equilibrium chart as well-

http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sngs/hune.html

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I see your logic about wanting to protect equity with the weaker hands but why not balance your 2/3 pot cbet with the top of your range?

I see your logic about wanting to protect equity with the weaker hands but why not balance your 2/3 pot cbet with the top of your range?

If you're playing someone who is good enough to where balance is a concern, you can make that adjustment. I'd consider that as an adjustment more than a default play, since the average husng player isn't going to be observant enough to notice.

If you're playing someone who is good enough to where balance is a concern, you can make that adjustment. I'd consider that as an adjustment more than a default play, since the average husng player isn't going to be observant enough to notice.

Also isn't balancing for when you will probably see someone again? There aren't enough spots in one hu sng to make balancing something you need to do and at the low and midstakes games there are so many players you probably wont run into the same guy.

Really great stuff. I especially liked the HUD setup and the flop-texture material at the end.

Regarding the HUD, I went ahead and set my HEM up the same way. I've exported the XML files. (For some reason, it wanted me to set the site, so I exported one each for Full Tilt and Stars, but not sure that matters.)

http://akqj10blog.com/share/hu-ft.xml
http://akqj10blog.com/share/hu-ps.xml

Depending on what your browser does with XML files, you may find it easiest to right click, choose Save Link As..., and then navigate to your Program Files\RVG Software\Holdem Manager\Config directory.

Hope this is helpful.

Are you not a fan of the Chubakov charts, Bones? I prefer that to Nash against bad call-happy players since the Nash numbers are contingent on a theoretical opponent's calling range.

The KS (or SC) chart is fine, but they can be a bit tight. In practice, the difference is minimal and using 1 or the other prob won't matter in the long run.

http://www2.decf.berkeley.edu/~chubukov/rankings.html

To use this chart, take the number on the far right and divide by 2. That's how many bb you can open shove if your opponent is calling exactly all hands that are better (or getting odds to call) and folding the rest.

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This board texture stuff is possibly the most valuable part of the series so far, which is saying a lot, because it's all been great.

You mention "little/no equity", which I take to be total whiffs. However, does this also include hands with marginal showdown value, say A6 or 43s on K73? My vague understanding is that we should be betting our non-showdownable hands to decrease the probability of the hand going to a showdown, and checking back our hands that could conceivably win at showdown. Please correct if necessary.

If we check back A6 on K73, are we ever calling a turn bet without improvement? All we have is a bluff catcher, but we've also played a line that will induce aggr. opps. to bluff.

The no equity stuff is basically not being able to improve vs. a decent range. A high can still make top pair plus its good a lot when no money goes into the pot. Bottom pair is good a lot plus you can still make 2 pair to improve. I wouldn't categorize them as no equity, just the bottom end of your range for marginal equity.

When deciding how to proceed, think about your opponent and texture. If he's checkraising you a ton bet/folding and bet/calling are both kinda gross, so checking back and hoping to improve/get to sd are gonna be best. With 54 on a K98 board, you can't really improve to a hand that wants to put money in the pot and it's never gonna be good at showdown, so it doesn't matter if you have to fold to a checkraise.

Of course if someone is going animal on you and checkraising an absolute ton, just go ahead and check back (or not raise it pre if you don't think your pf raise will be profitable on it's own).

Thanks, man. That reply explains a lot.

I also noticed that they talked a bit about this topic on Dogisheads UP #2 at about 1:05:00. I guess the operative idea is not to cbet if you won't know how to respond to getting C/Red.

Fortunately at the $1s and $2s where I'm practicing for the moment, no one C/Rs much.

Great series so far.

I was curious if you were still going to include some of the things that you mentioned at the end of ep 1 like "soft skills", HH review, and hopefully some live play.

Regarding soft skills: BR mgmt, game selection, sharkscope you mentioned, but can you include some stuff about variance, roi's, the ability to multitable these, and anything else that you might think of.

Thanks!

Bones, that was a dang good video. really enjoyed it. For a new player to HU SNG's would using that HUD of yours be to much at first?

It was for me, but then I remembered I could color code each row or each stat in HUD to remind me what it's about. (e.g. brown = donkeys = donkbet, whatever works)

For the HUD, I think it makes sense to move "bet vs. missed flop CB out of position" to be on the cbet row, and move the rest of the cbet in 3-bet pot row to be right after the first cbet row. Also reverse the items in the 3-bet pot row to match the first cbet row (cbet / fold to cbet).

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I don't understand checking back with 78 against aggressive opponents as we still need to protect our hand, and we find out if they have a king when they call or raise and can fold. By checking back I think we give hands with ATC above a 7 a free card which will kill our equity in the hand.

I don't understand checking back with 78 against aggressive opponents as we still need to protect our hand, and we find out if they have a king when they call or raise and can fold. By checking back I think we give hands with ATC above a 7 a free card which will kill our equity in the hand.

Very aggressive players will c/r bluff at a much higher frequency than other players, making a b/f not so appealing. You can also induce some bluffs on future streets, which isn't an inconsequential consideration.

is c/r bluffing a good line to take sometimes or is it too spewey. When im getting run over and someone is raising and c-betting every hand then i like to c/r bluff on A high boards and other boards i can rep strength on.

Nah it's fine. I think I do it a few times in ep 3 and 4 if you wanna see some spots I like and my thoughts on it. I usually like to have an overcard or some sort of out, but those dry ace high type boards are good for it as well, just be sure to have some aces in your cr range when you play observant opps.

Great Video with lots of good info.

In the series description it says, "Bones takes you into the cage match of HU SNG's. He breaks down structures, sites, opponents, and strategies to help you succeed."

I'm guessing with only four episodes, you didn't have enough time to talk about the differences of HUSNG's at different sites. Do you have any thoughts about this?

For example, when I was just getting started, I was playing the $2's on Pokerstars, and after about 50 matches, I realized that the rake was .20, a 10% charge which is double that of the 5$ and up SNGs. This difference in rake could half your expected ROI at this level.

Also, any thoughts about structures? Normal speed, vs. turbo, vs. super turbo? What about the normal 2 man match vs. 4,8,16,and 32 person freezeouts?

Thanks again for a great series.

That episode was so helpful. About the HUD does bones or anyone else have any suggestions for colour coding it? As in vpip in BB and 3 betting seperating them into three colurs for high medium and low ect

Thanks

for the hud, I use the husng awesome hud.
you can have a look of the type of color coding.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/185/heads-up-sng/awesome-hud-v2-free-10-huds-choose-954986/

Also, keep in minf, in HU , you need to have stats by position.

Hope it helps!

for the hud, I use the husng awesome hud.
you can have a look of the type of color coding.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/185/heads-up-sng/awesome-hud-v2-free-10-huds-choose-954986/

Also, keep in minf, in HU , you need to have stats by position.

Hope it helps!

This is absolutely perfect thanks a lot!!!