Catsailor
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I really liked this video. Being able to see another good players holecards really helps. I hope to see more like this. You really explain your thought process well. The talk about board texture and handreading is very helpful. Good HU battle!
Also, the site has improved alot. Keep up the good work, guys.
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Peesocake
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Joined 02/2007
Hello,
First let me say that I really enjoyed this video, and appreciate the quality of your decisions.
I do have one question for a specific hand and hope you will answer:
It's around minute 39 where you have 99 on the button and 3bet. On the turn it is checked to you, and you decide to bet to protect your hand. Now, what if you are raised? Do you call hoping to make the 9 high flush? Do you fold?
If you call, and do make the flush, would you call a bet? Would you bet if checked to?
If you call, and don't make the flush, do you bet again or check behind when checked? Do you call a bet?
I know it's a lot of questions, but I would be tended to check the turn because I would hate getting raised there. It doesn't happen in the video, but I would what your course of action would have been.
Thank you very much!
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DeathDonkey
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Hi,
Really good questions so I'll try to do them justice...now if I remember right the villain was quite a passive player, sort of tight passive. That type of player led me to believe that I wouldn't be raised on the turn very often at all, mostly because all his good top pair or overpair hands would just raise the flop. It seemed to me his hand was very likely just unimproved overcards / some unpaired hand. The pot is quite big due to the preflop action so if its anywhere near a close decision I think this is a "grit my teeth and fire the turn" spot to protect my very vulnerable hand.
If he did surprise me and raise the turn, I would continue with my pretty weak flush draw, because the price would just be too great in my mind to fold a potential 9 out hand. If I made the flush I would want one bet to go in on the river, either by calling his bet or by betting if he checked to me. It would take quite a tricky player to CR me on the turn and then CR me again on the river when the flush hits, but I suppose I'd probably pay that off the very rare times it occurs. If I missed the flush, I would have folded against that guy based on my read of him as tight passive, I'd probably just give him credit for a slowplayed big hand on the flop. If he somehow checked a blank river I'd check behind expecting him to be playing a better hand than mine poorly or a semibluff no pair type of hand that probably couldn't even call a river bet.
As you correctly say, I hate getting raised on the turn there too, but with the pot being so big, and my hand being quite vulnerable, I believe the turn bet was necessary and would just have to deal with the difficult and uncomfortable spot of getting CRed if it came.
-DeathDonkey
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Peesocake
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Thank you,
That's a satisfying answer, and it makes perfect sense.
So if I understand correctly, you have to bet that turn to protect your vulnerable hand. Totally agree. And in fact, you have to do it even against an aggressive player, since he might even raise with his overcards containing a diamond. The only thing is you'd have to call the river if you don't make the flush vs that type of opponent.
It's a tricky spot that I tend to not handle well in the heat of battle. But I learnt something. Thanks!
Peesocake
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timoK
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