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What to do When...: Episode Seven

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What to do When...: Episode Seven by DeathDonkey, mike l.

DeathDonkey and Mike l. continue to debate. The topic this week is difficult turn spots due to being check-raised.

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DeathDonkey and mike l. tackle the common, but nasty spots in mid/high stakes shorthanded LHE. Using hands played by mike, they will analyze and argue about what to do when...you find yourself in sticky situations in LHE.

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  • Game: lhe
  • Stakes: High Stakes
  • 58 minutes long
  • Posted almost 2 years ago

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Comments for What to do When...: Episode Seven

hansgeertsma

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lol@I bet that if we bet he will checkraiseSmile

great work guys, I'm enjoying the video

Posted almost 2 years ago

cptbackfire

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Time Link to 00:28:43

what do you guys think about raise folding in this spot you have the ace blocker to a flush

Posted almost 2 years ago

DeathDonkey

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what do you guys think about raise folding in this spot you have the ace blocker to a flush



Yeah Mike liked that play, I get called a lot on my river raises, but I don't think its an awful bluff spot.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Entity

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Time Link to 00:29:07

Def. like the discussion and idea for bluffraising the river here. I think the pot is big enough that it's worthwhile and while blockers in LHE aren't usually very important, they definitely help a lot to represent the right hand here. You'll get called often, but I think not too often to take a stab at it here.

Rob

Posted almost 2 years ago

PygmyHero

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Time Link to 00:15:00

We have the AClub so villain can't have the ace high flush draw in this spot (I think your point is still fair though).

Posted almost 2 years ago

PygmyHero

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Time Link to 00:30:55

mike l. says this hand 'is like a rock hand.' What? I'm not familiar with that term.

Posted almost 2 years ago

DeathDonkey

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mike l. says this hand 'is like a rock hand.' What? I'm not familiar with that term.



Hehe, he actually means a "Roc" hand, who is a semi infamous southern california live poker guy. He tends to make really aggro plays that seem to be valueless. A good example might be he can be calling someone down with a small pocket pair and then he'll raise the river on a blank. It's hard to call the raise a bluff since he is almost always getting called by better hands, but its just way too thin to be good for value, so its like an in between, valueless play.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Entity

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Time Link to 00:42:47

Not sure if I agree here -- the presence of a gutter for A2 which will call one if not two streets and the doublegutter that A5 turned makes me a LOT more likely to call down here vs. a standard opponent than it has on a lot of the other board textures where you've said that a bet is more standard. I think there are too many Ace high hands you lose value from vs. the pairs that they have in their range. Your opponents have to be checkraising the turn rather than the flop a large % of the time for you to ever call betting the turn with AKo (even if you consider bet-folding) to be as bad as you made it sound here.

Rob

Posted almost 2 years ago

iplaylimit

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Keep doing this guys - WTDW can keep on going for years and I'll still be watching everything.

Posted almost 2 years ago

iplaylimit

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Time Link to 00:50:43

I think a very important factor here is "if I bet here can I fold out anything?". If the answer is "yes" then your bet becomes so much better because you have a decent amount of equity, and initiative is quite useful here because if you checked turn there are so many bad river cards out there that you want no bet on the river.

Posted almost 2 years ago

iplaylimit

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Time Link to 00:45:35

Another knock against raising the river here is that if you get 3bet, villain's range is going to be polarized and with the increased pot size you may need to call with AK. With 98, you just fold (or cap bluff against certain villain) but either way you don't have the problem of committing an extra bet. So even without considering bluff frequency and meta (may or may not be good) raising with 98 here is better than a hand with a little SD value like AK

Posted almost 2 years ago

BusinessGypsy

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5 stars

whoops, I really dislike the b/f the turn sentiment at 54:00 in this large pot on this mono flop board. (I have not yet seen the river.) I don't mind checking back the turn, but I think bet/calling down barring the obvious terrible rivers is better. The pot is large and we are HU to the turn, giving villain maximum reason to semibluff, esp on this type of turn card (brings str8 draws as well).

Are you bet/folding 88 no club on the turn? What's the strongest hand?

Now, after we see SD, you say his play was bad because he never folds better but you just said we should b/f the turn. This comment is a little confusing.

If we check thru turn, I like Mike's comment on vbetting AQhigh on the river if villain checks.

Posted almost 2 years ago



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