Poker Video: Omaha/Omaha 8 by danzasmack (Micro/Small Stakes)

Hey guys, wanted to give a little info about this one.

Originally this was to be episode 4, with Ep 3 being a lead in, discussing some of the differences between FR and 6max, primarily aggression, mostly preflop and a little postflop as well as widening starting hands preflop. Ep3 was mostly in the bag, there were some things that were to be added, but unfortunately my co-pilot has been miserably sick, so instead of any delays(the irony) we decided to release 4 first.
Ep 4 will likely be a more in depth discussion of the concepts and actions seen in this.

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*quietly applauding the new HUD*

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I think opening that hand on table three is a mistake. What are you hoping to flop?

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Opening that hand on table 3 is def a mistake. If it was folded to you on the button and the blinds were tight I could see a reason for it. Given the blinds and the limper UTG I think you should be folding this every time.

I think opening that hand on table three is a mistake. What are you hoping to flop?

Is this time stamp correct? I don't see any hole cards on that table for the first few minutes. Which hand do you think is a mistake?

Opening that hand on table 3 is def a mistake. If it was folded to you on the button and the blinds were tight I could see a reason for it. Given the blinds and the limper UTG I think you should be folding this every time.

I thought you meant QJs97 on the button, but I don't see a limper. Was QJs97 the hand you were referring to?

Opening that hand on table 3 is def a mistake. If it was folded to you on the button and the blinds were tight I could see a reason for it. Given the blinds and the limper UTG I think you should be folding this every time.

The only reason here is I've seen utg limp/fold and they check/fold postflop on a ton of boards*. Not your typical shortstacker at all. The SB is tight and the BB is deep enough where I have some maneuverability postflop. It's really unusual for me to do it under general parameters, this was completely player dependent.

*On a side note, I will on occasion play some really crappy hands to showdown with shortstackers, where I often have little equity to create a spewtard image. It helps deeper stacks convince themselves to get in lighter because in their eyes I have crap. They don't take into consideration that when I'm getting it in with them that deep, that I rarely am showing up with junk. The larger the player pool(like at 50) the more often I feel at image needs to be created. As it reduces, the less necessary.

It's more of my psychological approach to the game more than anything. When necessary I will play a completely fundamentally sound game. But I think this becomes really predictable and somewhat of an action killer. When I pick these spots to get out of line, it's to help cause opponents play differently than they normally would. It could be flawed at times, but it's worked for me.

I think opening that hand on table three is a mistake. What are you hoping to flop?

Not sure which this refers to. If it's OOP I hope I had something good enough to hit a broad spectrum of flops. If I'm OTB, it's often not necessarily hoping to flop(as usually few are great fits), it's more what I hope doesn't flop/turn compared to my villains perceived range.

Wanted to add that I'm sorry if I may come across as defensive or inflexible at times. I rarely discuss PL/NLO8 with anyone, aside from myself lol, who will offer a differing opinion and is capable of enumerating why, so it takes me time to either absorb or accept it.

Most, obv not all, of the big bet O8 discussion I see nowadays is so generic or static that I'm not interested in directly participating(mostly on 2+2). Most hands that come up for discussion, aside from basic examples, are not cut and dry and shouldnt be treated as such. I'd love to see DC become the place for more in depth PL/NLO8 discussion. As you know, a hand history is not simply about the cards, player and current table dynamic plays such a huge role in decision making.

FWIW I don't think you're being defensive at all. Part of the great dynamics on a site like this is, we can ask you why you play a certain way, and you can help us understand your mindset. No worries.

Most, obv not all, of the big bet O8 discussion I see nowadays is so generic or static that I'm not interested in directly participating(mostly on 2+2). Most hands that come up for discussion, aside from basic examples, are not cut and dry and shouldnt be treated as such. I'd love to see DC become the place for more in depth PL/NLO8 discussion.

I'd like that too, mostly because I think having multiple sources for quality discussion is preferable to having it monopolized by any one site.

I've found the 2+2 O8 forum helpful but part of that is that I'm a total n00b. Returns may diminish as I get to a level where people don't want to reveal their thinking (or aren't thinking ahead of me), not sure.

Wanted to add that I'm sorry if I may come across as defensive or inflexible at times. I rarely discuss PL/NLO8 with anyone, aside from myself lol, who will offer a differing opinion and is capable of enumerating why, so it takes me time to either absorb or accept it.

Most, obv not all, of the big bet O8 discussion I see nowadays is so generic or static that I'm not interested in directly participating(mostly on 2+2). Most hands that come up for discussion, aside from basic examples, are not cut and dry and shouldnt be treated as such. I'd love to see DC become the place for more in depth PL/NLO8 discussion. As you know, a hand history is not simply about the cards, player and current table dynamic plays such a huge role in decision making.

I'm down for that. I have yet to watch the last half of this vid. I have no clue whats up with the first time stamp.

I realise I am late to the party, however I am enjoying this series immensely. the FL08 games seem to have dried up at my time zone and stake, however PL08 and NL08 games seem plentiful at the micros. I just have a few questions.... I'm still learning so I apologise if they are obvious.

Can someone please run me through the new HUD? I have a few ideas...
Name / Number of Hands
VPIP / PFR / ? / ? (I am assuming one is aggression factor?)
? / ? / ? (WTSD and W$SD maybe?)
?

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With multi way and facing a small bet with two loose players behind holding two overs, nut low backdoor and gutshot nut straight draw is this a call? If the board flushes we can just fold right? Or is that thinking going to cost me money in the long run?

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J8(T9) facing a 3x raise on the button with 3 players left to act is this a call? I just ran the equity 5 way and the scoop potential seems very high for this hand? Or again, is that the sort of hand that is going to cost me money? Once it goes 3 way the equity trails off with no low potential, however is the overall scoop potential still quite high?

Bottom Right

With multi way and facing a small bet with two loose players behind holding two overs, nut low backdoor and gutshot nut straight draw is this a call? If the board flushes we can just fold right? Or is that thinking going to cost me money in the long run?

If I were last to act, I'd peel, but w/2 players left to act on a straightening 2 flush board, it's pretty spewy to be flatting multiway. Too often it will be a fold OTT, or I can't handle a raise behind. I'd rather raise/fold than flat as it opens up more blank turns to be barreled.

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J8(T9) facing a 3x raise on the button with 3 players left to act is this a call? I just ran the equity 5 way and the scoop potential seems very high for this hand? Or again, is that the sort of hand that is going to cost me money? Once it goes 3 way the equity trails off with no low potential, however is the overall scoop potential still quite high?

I really have to a real fish at the table to make overcalling this, even in position, worthwhile. Even though in a multiway pot, it does have good equity, it often takes three streets to see it, so too often the equity will go unrealized due to inability to continue on many flops/turns.

I realise I am late to the party, however I am enjoying this series immensely. the FL08 games seem to have dried up at my time zone and stake, however PL08 and NL08 games seem plentiful at the micros. I just have a few questions.... I'm still learning so I apologise if they are obvious.

Can someone please run me through the new HUD? I have a few ideas...
Name / Number of Hands
VPIP / PFR / ? / ? (I am assuming one is aggression factor?)
? / ? / ? (WTSD and W$SD maybe?)
?

vpip/pfr/3bet/agg factor
c-bet/fold cbet/cr
Will let you know the bottom 2 as they've changed I think, but do have it written down somewhere.

Thanks heaps, really appreciate your time in getting back to me. After reading your responses and thinking about it a little deeper, I see exactly what you mean. I guess I had forgotten the big bet nature of the game and was thinking from a limit background... even then not sure how correct my play would be. Thanks again and to reiterate, I am really enjoying this series. You have a easy to understand way of explaining things.

Thanks heaps, really appreciate your time in getting back to me. After reading your responses and thinking about it a little deeper, I see exactly what you mean. I guess I had forgotten the big bet nature of the game and was thinking from a limit background... even then not sure how correct my play would be. Thanks again and to reiterate, I am really enjoying this series. You have a easy to understand way of explaining things.

Thanks for the feedback and glad you've been enjoying the series. Chuck was great to work with as well.

Keep your eyes peeled in May, I have a DC short that I'm working on this weekend that should be out soon.