Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by Entity (Micro/Small Stakes)

yay!!

ohh i got spanked there

yay!!! thx again for producing these videos and taking the time to make the commentary, which was as educational (and entertaining) as we've come to expect from you. funny how chris kept referring to my laggy image when in reality i was playing like a nit for almost all of the session (well, except for all these horrendous flop peels)

p.s.: chris, rob, are you accepting preorders for your upcoming audiobook?

ok 1st of all i wanna say thank u to both of you makin that 3videos. great work!

2nd ... germans say "boat" too. not "boot" if they talk about poker

MY A3o vs Skeletor2000 @ 30:20

when i saw the video i was realy sure about myself calling this one down and not c/r the turn ... so i pretty much agree with you this play was not that good.

MY A5s vs Salmon @ 40:20

you talked about my river decission. so yes i took the time to think about the 10 on the river and decided to fold there. i would have called every non broadway river. and btw i was a bit surprised to get 3bet there on the flop.

MY AJo vs fnupple and skeletor2000 @ 85:30

this is a very intersting one. so here are my thoughts on that.

prf: call in position is standard

flop: ya, the cap from skeletor looks strong because it was the first time i saw him doin that. he made the c-bet ... i looked at my hand 2overs backdoor nut flush. so i decided to raise, mainly to push fnupple out (buy outs) because he has the maybe the weakest range here and to represent the overpair. ok. but i didnt thought about it enough to figure out what im up against - what is skeletors range here (AQ+ KQ+ 99+ - ?i would have foldet everything else?). after he just calls my raise i had him pretty much on AK or KQ (does that make any sense) he may fold to more action.

so yes if i take a 2nd look on that hand now ... it looks realy stupid ... BUT trust me im not that "trigger happy" as i looks in that video.

turn and river are standard.

and DD yeah i was a bit surprised to see him having the 10 here because i thought he should give more gas with tp there.

A couple of comments on some of my hands:

77 vs Pygmy on something like Q63: I think my gameplan here was to raise flop, bet turn and check most rivers, reasoning that I'm likely a slight dog to his range but really want to protect my equity against his A high hands which I'm expecting him to 3barrel a lot on this kind of board. it's a line that i'm using only very rarely but has some merit and i thought this was a good opportunity to try it. would very much appreciate your thoughts here.

a5 vs Pygmy QQ: i agree the flop peel is borderline at best but PH was running so bad that i was bound to get there . Anyway, I hope my river range is balanced enough to make him close to indifferent between calling and folding. actually, i think his best play on the river would have been to RAISE, and i'm pretty sure that he was actually considering it. i would have been willing to fold a lot of Ax hands here.

99 vs Sushi on a 4 8 K x 8: I agree that this is probably a valuebet on the river, but it's only slightly +EV because he will be folding so much. I really didnt expect him to have bottom pair very often and was a bit worried about getting checkraised. Most of all I was just confused by his check

AT vs Sushi's 3bet on Txy mono: I don't understand why you guys are in favor of a flop c/r here. his preflop range is STRONG here, my equity isnt very good even after flopping top pair and im often going to be outplayed if he plays back at me. if i'm ahead on the flop, he's probably drawing to 2 or 3 outs, so i decided to c/c and reevaluate on the turn, maybe donking a safe turn card.

flop: mainly to push fnupple out (buy outs) because he has the maybe the weakest range here and to represent the overpair.

Actually I think you're the one with the weakest range here, gus. Remember, I'm a nit preflop Anyway, the only merit I see to your flop raise is that you probably can get me to fold a small pocket pair. But I highly doubt that it's worth it since deepsquat's range should have AJ in pretty rough shape here. Most of the time you'll have to improve to win the pot anyway, so you really don't mind me sticking around with 77. Then again, I'm just a fish when it comes to multiway pots, so I really don't know. But if the experts say your raise is just a spew I'm inclined to believe them

2nd ... germans say "boat" too. not "boot" if they talk about poker Wink

Yeah. Incidentally, an American would be much more apt to mispronounce the German word "Boot" (= "boat" in english).

Actually I think you're the one with the weakest range here, gus. Remember, I'm a nit preflop Anyway, the only merit I see to your flop raise is that you probably can get me to fold a small pocket pair. But I highly doubt that it's worth it since deepsquat's range should have AJ in pretty rough shape here. Most of the time you'll have to improve to win the pot anyway, so you really don't mind me sticking around with 77. Then again, I'm just a fish when it comes to multiway pots, so I really don't know. But if the experts say your raise is just a spew I'm inclined to believe them

yeah yeah by theorem tahts for sure. but i meand compared to the hand i realy had that time.

@ATo, monotone board:

so i decided to c/c and reevaluate on the turn, maybe donking a safe turn card.

I think this would have been a reasonable line as well. The biggest thing was that I didn't think a c/r was going to really open yourself up to being outplayed there. It's a spot where I think you can c/r for thin value, bet-call the turn, and check-fold if he bets the river because I don't expect him to be doing that with AK. Hope that makes some sense, it's definitely exploitable but you just don't see enough people raise turn + bet river without value, and so much of his range is showdown bound that you can often get him to define his hand. It also serves with some balance for how you may play AX, here, so that your range isn't entirely super strong/super weak.

@77 vs Pygmy:

it's a line that i'm using only very rarely but has some merit and i thought this was a good opportunity to try it. would very much appreciate your thoughts here.

I just don't think he has enough Ax hands in his range. While you're doing ok vs his preflop Ax range, the inclusion of 88-AA there really destroys your overall equity vs his entire range. I'd weight AJo at 50%, so I'm giving him 24 combos of Ax @ 25% equity, 9 combos of AQ @ 90%, but 42 more combos of pocket pairs @ 90% equity and 1 combo of a set @ 99+%. The line itself is really good I think when someone has a range that's weighted a lot less toward pocket pairs, but the nature of the beast here, UTG vs SB, means you should consider just calling down. There is one big principle here that is helpful, which is that Pygmy, like most other TAGs, will continue to bet their entire range of 3-betting hands preflop as long as you just call on the flop/turn here. That means he might bet AJ as a bluff trying to get you to fold AJ, or AK for value, etc., etc,. and allows you to get him to valuecut himself without giving him much definition about your handrange.

Rob

2nd ... germans say "boat" too. not "boot" if they talk about poker

Yeah, I took German for a year in college, it was a bad joke around the fact that most students/Americans see "Das Boot" and say "boot" rather than "Das Boat." Bad joke, but I can't help myself sometimes.

Rob

In the AT hand vs Sushi I was mainly worried about getting 3bet on the flop, since he could be doing that with just about any hand that has ve crushed or that I'm flipping against, but would probably never do it with worse than AT. I think I would have to c/c non turns, and then the river would be pretty nasty to play imo.

but the nature of the beast here, UTG vs SB, means you should consider just calling down. There is one big principle here that is helpful, which is that Pygmy, like most other TAGs, will continue to bet their entire range of 3-betting hands preflop as long as you just call on the flop/turn here. That means he might bet AJ as a bluff trying to get you to fold AJ, or AK for value, etc., etc,. and allows you to get him to valuecut himself without giving him much definition about your handrange.

But if I often end up calling down anyway, isn't that an argument for taking my line since I'm only putting in 2 BB postflop, whereas a calldown would cost me 2.5 BB? Or did you mean I should just call twice and fold to a river bet?

Also: More bad jokes, plz

But if I often end up calling down anyway, isn't that an argument for taking my line since I'm only putting in 2 BB postflop, whereas a calldown would cost me 2.5 BB? Or did you mean I should just call twice and fold to a river bet?

I think you're more likely to make him fold at some point some portion of the time (especially with AJ) by raising but prevent him (this isn't necessarily directed at Pygmy, just against any TAG in this spot) from thinking by just calling. By raising you are very likely to turn their autopilot off and put in bets bad on later streets. Additionally, I don't think you necessarily need to call down 100% of the time postflop; depending on how the board texture develops, if he keeps betting you're a very significant dog to his river betting range. If it falls Q63, 9, 4, I think you should probably calldown, but when the turn is an A/K/J/T, you can fold to 50% of those correctly on the turn, and fold to the other 50% when he fires turn+river. Additionally, by opening yourself up to a turn checkraise, you spend 1.5BB but forfeit about 4% equity X the size of the pot+2BB implieds, which isn't huge, but is a decent chunk given the relatively small upside to raising.

Rob

I always heard the quote as 'The best laid plans of mice and men gang aft agley.' I just think it's much more +EV to speak in an obsolete version of a language.

Really like Skeletor's A3o hand on the button. One of those good give-up spots that AGs often miss. Unfortunately, he compensated for that nice play with the ugly QQ river call and the hopeless T8o flop peel. I think QJ/QT/JT, the hands you are trying to fold, are sometimes to c/r semibluff and just not enough of Pygmy's range. I also think a lot of the A high flop peels OOP on bad boards are pretty bad. It's not that you don't have the hot-and-cold equity to get to showdown, but that you have reverse implied odds in that the player in position will get value out of you when you are beat, make some turn second barrels and semibluffs targeted at forcing your Ax to fold on bad turn cards for you, and won't lose that much when you are best.

Overall, I think all players play pretty well, but sometimes get a bit out of line in their aggression, which isn't the worst thing (it does make you a bit more difficult to play against if you sometimes, but only rarely, get out of line). Some of the river calls were questionable as Rob and Chris pointed out, but if that is your biggest leak, you're doing pretty well for yourself.

Wow, i cant believe how bad i played (skeletor2000)

I dont even remember half of these hands and im sitting there cringing in disbelief as i make plays that i would never make now.

Oh well, at least ive improved i guess.

1) 108o peel vs hypnotic was poor. I agree with DD that c/r or c/f. C/f is better imo.

2) I should cap A10s in BB vs pyg's CO open and "snupple's" 3bet

3) K10s hand vs Gus. I stand by my play in this hand on the flop and turn. Riv is a fold but the pot is huuuuge.

4) QQ vs hypnotic. Easy riv fold

5) A3 vs hypnotic's J10. I like how i played this.

6) QJo vs gus. I like b/f on riv as i stated in the chat box during the play. I think its impossible for gus to raise any no 10x hand here and if he does than he is awesome.

Im glad i did this video, but man i played bad lol

Gus, just regarding the K10s hand i had vs your AJo.

If you are me and you coldcap pf in the BB and then get raised on 1092 flop what hands do you think i have enough equity against to give more action?

I just think that your range here is so strong or you have a hand like 55 that is drawing very thin that if i 3bet i will blow you off imo

cheers

Thanks for doing this. I really liked the presentation format of coming together for part 2.

Hey guys, I just watched this again the other day and it is phenomenal. Thanks again for all your work!